Re: [bolger] Amas on a Windsprint
I have a picture of it at www.ECoastLife.com/cedarkey2003.htm The owner's
name is there, but no address or home port.
Don Hodges
www.ECoastLife.com
Your Emerald Coast Cyber-Vacation
Small-Boat Building, Fishing, Cruising
name is there, but no address or home port.
Don Hodges
www.ECoastLife.com
Your Emerald Coast Cyber-Vacation
Small-Boat Building, Fishing, Cruising
----- Original Message -----
From: <hwal@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 7:37 AM
Subject: Re: [bolger] Amas on a Windsprint
> I do believe that there was a windsprint with amas at the Cedar Key
messabout
> two years ago. He also added a small cuddy. He had trouble with one of
the
> akas - something broke. It just wasn't beefed up enough for the strain. It
> looked pretty interesting. I don't know who that was ( anyone on this
list?).
> I also don't know if he was there last year since I wasn't. Steve
Anderson
> MJ Landroval)
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In a message dated 3/2/2001 9:01:42 AM Eastern Standard Time,
teakdeck@...writes:
<< now I plan to use 2 x 4's bolted
through at the gunwales and to the amas. >>
This is what was used at cedar key. You perhaps should take a look at CLC/s
tri converson for kayaks - curved and laminated akas might be much stronger.
Steve
teakdeck@...writes:
<< now I plan to use 2 x 4's bolted
through at the gunwales and to the amas. >>
This is what was used at cedar key. You perhaps should take a look at CLC/s
tri converson for kayaks - curved and laminated akas might be much stronger.
Steve
I am worried about the akas as well. Right now I plan to use 2 x 4's bolted
through at the gunwales and to the amas. The unsupported span between the
main hull and each ama will be about 3.5 feet. If the boat works, that is,
sails reasonbly fast, points decently and handles okay, and the akas break, I
will look into beefing them up or building square hollow beams.
Mike Masten
In a message dated 3/2/01 5:38:43 AM Pacific Standard Time,hwal@...
writes:
<< I do believe that there was a windsprint with amas at the Cedar Key
messabout
two years ago. He also added a small cuddy. He had trouble with one of the
akas - something broke. It just wasn't beefed up enough for the strain. It
looked pretty interesting. I don't know who that was ( anyone on this
list?).
I also don't know if he was there last year since I wasn't. Steve Anderson
(
MJ Landroval) >>
through at the gunwales and to the amas. The unsupported span between the
main hull and each ama will be about 3.5 feet. If the boat works, that is,
sails reasonbly fast, points decently and handles okay, and the akas break, I
will look into beefing them up or building square hollow beams.
Mike Masten
In a message dated 3/2/01 5:38:43 AM Pacific Standard Time,hwal@...
writes:
<< I do believe that there was a windsprint with amas at the Cedar Key
messabout
two years ago. He also added a small cuddy. He had trouble with one of the
akas - something broke. It just wasn't beefed up enough for the strain. It
looked pretty interesting. I don't know who that was ( anyone on this
list?).
I also don't know if he was there last year since I wasn't. Steve Anderson
(
MJ Landroval) >>
I do believe that there was a windsprint with amas at the Cedar Key messabout
two years ago. He also added a small cuddy. He had trouble with one of the
akas - something broke. It just wasn't beefed up enough for the strain. It
looked pretty interesting. I don't know who that was ( anyone on this list?).
I also don't know if he was there last year since I wasn't. Steve Anderson (
MJ Landroval)
two years ago. He also added a small cuddy. He had trouble with one of the
akas - something broke. It just wasn't beefed up enough for the strain. It
looked pretty interesting. I don't know who that was ( anyone on this list?).
I also don't know if he was there last year since I wasn't. Steve Anderson (
MJ Landroval)
The amas are 12' long, and 12" square at the midsection. They taper to a
point at both stem and stern. The top is flat while the bottom is rockered,
again from 12' at the midsection to 6" at stem and stern.
The only real innovation here is to use the square boat concept to make the
amas. Why didn't I use V bottom amas? Two reasons: I can't use epoxy and so I
stay away from stitch and glue methods; at the typical angle of heel the
leeward ama should be presenting a V to the water anyway.
Most importantly to me, if the amas work, I will probably start to think
about combining Bolger ideas and Wharram ideas into one catamaran. Square
amas would be easier to build and much roomier than V shaped hulls, on the
other hand, Wharram double canoe catamarans offer a stable sailing platform
with lots of accomodating deck space.
In a message dated 3/1/01 10:31:49 AM Pacific Standard Time,
garth@...writes:
<< >>By the way, I'm in the middle of adding amas to my Windsprint,
method of attaching the amas, details of the rig. Post pictures.
It'll be like a little Sea Pearl. This is tinkering in the finest
Bolger tradition. >>
point at both stem and stern. The top is flat while the bottom is rockered,
again from 12' at the midsection to 6" at stem and stern.
The only real innovation here is to use the square boat concept to make the
amas. Why didn't I use V bottom amas? Two reasons: I can't use epoxy and so I
stay away from stitch and glue methods; at the typical angle of heel the
leeward ama should be presenting a V to the water anyway.
Most importantly to me, if the amas work, I will probably start to think
about combining Bolger ideas and Wharram ideas into one catamaran. Square
amas would be easier to build and much roomier than V shaped hulls, on the
other hand, Wharram double canoe catamarans offer a stable sailing platform
with lots of accomodating deck space.
In a message dated 3/1/01 10:31:49 AM Pacific Standard Time,
garth@...writes:
<< >>By the way, I'm in the middle of adding amas to my Windsprint,
>>turning her into a trimaran, I hope. Also going to try anDefinitely tell us more as you go along -- construction of the amas,
>>experimental rig. More if anyone is interested.
method of attaching the amas, details of the rig. Post pictures.
It'll be like a little Sea Pearl. This is tinkering in the finest
Bolger tradition. >>
>>>By the way, I'm in the middle of adding amas to my Windsprint,My teal is going to become a tender for my scooner, and I was
>>>turning her into a trimaran, I hope. Also going to try an
>>>experimental rig. More if anyone is interested.
>
>Definitely tell us more as you go along -- construction of the amas,
>method of attaching the amas, details of the rig. Post pictures.
>It'll be like a little Sea Pearl. This is tinkering in the finest
>Bolger tradition.
thinking a surf for my near-shore fishing boat. Amas (didn't know
that's what they were called) had come to my mind too. I'm glad
you're going first!
YIBB,
David
CRUMBLING EMPIRE PRODUCTIONS
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New York, New York 10001
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>>By the way, I'm in the middle of adding amas to my Windsprint,Definitely tell us more as you go along -- construction of the amas,
>>turning her into a trimaran, I hope. Also going to try an
>>experimental rig. More if anyone is interested.
method of attaching the amas, details of the rig. Post pictures.
It'll be like a little Sea Pearl. This is tinkering in the finest
Bolger tradition.