Re: [bolger] Re: the crab skiff mystery
On Sun, 11 Mar 2001dadadata@...wrote:
really like it, and any fan of Bolger should also be a fan of Chapelle.
If you had to own only one boating book, it should be American Small
Sailing Craft by Chapelle. The "pamphlet" is a delightful little book, I
recommend it to anyone who can afford the $5 (or whatever).
> There are many flavors of double-ended crab skiffs on the Chesapeake,Craig is, as usual, fully correct. But he undersells the pamphlet. I
> as well as crab skiffs with transoms. Chapelle wrote a small book on
> Chesapeake Crab Skiffs which has been published by the Chesapeake Bay
> maritime museum in St Michaels (they have a web site).
really like it, and any fan of Bolger should also be a fan of Chapelle.
If you had to own only one boating book, it should be American Small
Sailing Craft by Chapelle. The "pamphlet" is a delightful little book, I
recommend it to anyone who can afford the $5 (or whatever).
Last month I was driving around the eastern shore of Chesapeake
Bay, I was driving along the Honga River in the vicinity of Tedious
Creek and saw this same boat on a trailer in a someone's front yard!
Of course I stopped the car and got out to have a look, never did get
to meet the builder/owner but the boat was pretty sharp!
I'm building a model of Bolger's Crab Skiff (or Surf) but trying
some ideas from his Camp Cruiser concept #2 on it... side decks and
an off centerboard and a kick up rudder. Maybe 2 extra bulkheads to
add flotation (forward and aft) and create dry storage for gear, the
center web frame would have to go but I'd stiffen the hull with some
less obtrusive framing. My idea is to modify the boat for single
handed weekend camping. Sleeping would be cramped but not to
different from say a Sea Pearl. Anyway, it's fun trying out my ideas
with cardboard, masking tape, and balsa.
If the weather stays warm this week I'll finally get back to work
on the Payson Pirogue thats been on hold all winter, and then I'll
pull the tarp off of the Dovekie and clean her up for an early spring
launch.....ahhh spring!
Jake
Bay, I was driving along the Honga River in the vicinity of Tedious
Creek and saw this same boat on a trailer in a someone's front yard!
Of course I stopped the car and got out to have a look, never did get
to meet the builder/owner but the boat was pretty sharp!
I'm building a model of Bolger's Crab Skiff (or Surf) but trying
some ideas from his Camp Cruiser concept #2 on it... side decks and
an off centerboard and a kick up rudder. Maybe 2 extra bulkheads to
add flotation (forward and aft) and create dry storage for gear, the
center web frame would have to go but I'd stiffen the hull with some
less obtrusive framing. My idea is to modify the boat for single
handed weekend camping. Sleeping would be cramped but not to
different from say a Sea Pearl. Anyway, it's fun trying out my ideas
with cardboard, masking tape, and balsa.
If the weather stays warm this week I'll finally get back to work
on the Payson Pirogue thats been on hold all winter, and then I'll
pull the tarp off of the Dovekie and clean her up for an early spring
launch.....ahhh spring!
Jake
--- In bolger@y..., jhkohnen@b... wrote:
> No cats around at the moment, so here's a scan of the Chesapeake Bay
> crabbing skiff in Harry V. Sucher's "Simplified Boatbuilding":
>
>http://www.boat-links.com/images/Crabskiff.gif
Thanks for posting the scan. I agree it's a lot closer to surf than
the one I found. I grew up in New Jersey, however, so perhaps you
will forgive a partiality to the Jersey version.
Apparently, the crab fishing was done by putting out a line with some
bait (chicken necks are classic) every few feet. After waiting a
while till the crabs start feeding, the line is pulled in. The crabs
hand on to the food, and were either just pulled into the boat or
scooped with a net. I don't know if you watch Food TV, but the method
was illustrated in the current mechanized version on a show about
crab cookery. Yum-yum.
I would guess that the boat had to be low sided and pretty stable.
There was no mention of a sailing rig for the Jersey boat.
Peter
the one I found. I grew up in New Jersey, however, so perhaps you
will forgive a partiality to the Jersey version.
Apparently, the crab fishing was done by putting out a line with some
bait (chicken necks are classic) every few feet. After waiting a
while till the crabs start feeding, the line is pulled in. The crabs
hand on to the food, and were either just pulled into the boat or
scooped with a net. I don't know if you watch Food TV, but the method
was illustrated in the current mechanized version on a show about
crab cookery. Yum-yum.
I would guess that the boat had to be low sided and pretty stable.
There was no mention of a sailing rig for the Jersey boat.
Peter
--- In bolger@y..., jhkohnen@b... wrote:
> No cats around at the moment, so here's a scan of the Chesapeake Bay
> crabbing skiff in Harry V. Sucher's "Simplified Boatbuilding":
>
>http://www.boat-links.com/images/Crabskiff.gif
>
> --
> John <jkohnen@b...>
>http://www.boat-links.com/
> Hanging is too good for a man who makes puns; he should be drawn
and quoted.
> <Fred Allen>
No cats around at the moment, so here's a scan of the Chesapeake Bay
crabbing skiff in Harry V. Sucher's "Simplified Boatbuilding":
http://www.boat-links.com/images/Crabskiff.gif
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John <jkohnen@...>
http://www.boat-links.com/
Hanging is too good for a man who makes puns; he should be drawn and quoted.
<Fred Allen>
crabbing skiff in Harry V. Sucher's "Simplified Boatbuilding":
http://www.boat-links.com/images/Crabskiff.gif
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John <jkohnen@...>
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Hanging is too good for a man who makes puns; he should be drawn and quoted.
<Fred Allen>
FBBB --
Parker has a couple of beautiful crab skiffs in "The Sharpie Book,"
and I think there's a photo of one on his Web site:
http://www.parker-marine.com
134 West 26th St. 12th Floor
New York, New York 10001
http://www.crumblingempire.com
(212) 247-0296
Parker has a couple of beautiful crab skiffs in "The Sharpie Book,"
and I think there's a photo of one on his Web site:
http://www.parker-marine.com
>I'd like to see a copy. I'm thinking of a little skiff design project.CRUMBLING EMPIRE PRODUCTIONS
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>Incidently, that's the second time I've type 'Floating Schooner'
>rather than "Folding Schooner." I guess I'm losing my little grey
>cells. - Peter
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>
>--- In bolger@y..., dadadata@f... wrote:
>> --- In bolger@y..., pvanderw@o... wrote:
>> >
>> > In "The Floating Schooner," in the section on Surf, the caption
>on
>> > one of the pictures is "The crab skiff in action." I always
>> wondered
>>
>>
>> There are many flavors of double-ended crab skiffs on the
>Chesapeake,
>> as well as crab skiffs with transoms. Chapelle wrote a small book
>on
>> Chesapeake Crab Skiffs which has been published by the Chesapeake
>Bay
>> maritime museum in St Michaels (they have a web site).
>
>
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I'd like to see a copy. I'm thinking of a little skiff design project.
Incidently, that's the second time I've type 'Floating Schooner'
rather than "Folding Schooner." I guess I'm losing my little grey
cells. - Peter
Incidently, that's the second time I've type 'Floating Schooner'
rather than "Folding Schooner." I guess I'm losing my little grey
cells. - Peter
--- In bolger@y..., dadadata@f... wrote:
> --- In bolger@y..., pvanderw@o... wrote:
> >
> > In "The Floating Schooner," in the section on Surf, the caption
on
> > one of the pictures is "The crab skiff in action." I always
> wondered
>
>
> There are many flavors of double-ended crab skiffs on the
Chesapeake,
> as well as crab skiffs with transoms. Chapelle wrote a small book
on
> Chesapeake Crab Skiffs which has been published by the Chesapeake
Bay
> maritime museum in St Michaels (they have a web site).
--- In bolger@y..., pvanderw@o... wrote:
There are many flavors of double-ended crab skiffs on the Chesapeake,
as well as crab skiffs with transoms. Chapelle wrote a small book on
Chesapeake Crab Skiffs which has been published by the Chesapeake Bay
maritime museum in St Michaels (they have a web site).
>wondered
> In "The Floating Schooner," in the section on Surf, the caption on
> one of the pictures is "The crab skiff in action." I always
There are many flavors of double-ended crab skiffs on the Chesapeake,
as well as crab skiffs with transoms. Chapelle wrote a small book on
Chesapeake Crab Skiffs which has been published by the Chesapeake Bay
maritime museum in St Michaels (they have a web site).
I've always thought that the crab skiff inspiration for Surf was the
Chesapeake Bay crab skiff; slender, flat-bottomed (or shallow V)
double-enders with a single sprit-boomed leg-o-mutton sail. Surf is
slender, flat-bottomed, with a single sprit-boomed leg-o-mutton and is
almost a double-ender. Examples of the Chesapeake crab skiffs can be seen
in Chapelles's "Boatbuilding", "American Small Sailing Craft" and his
pamphlet on Chesapeake Bay skiffs; in Harry V. Sucher's "Simplified
Boatbuilding" volume 1; and in Reuel Parker's "The Sharpie Book". I'd scan
an illustration out of one of those books, but I've got a cat on my lap...
Chesapeake Bay crab skiff; slender, flat-bottomed (or shallow V)
double-enders with a single sprit-boomed leg-o-mutton sail. Surf is
slender, flat-bottomed, with a single sprit-boomed leg-o-mutton and is
almost a double-ender. Examples of the Chesapeake crab skiffs can be seen
in Chapelles's "Boatbuilding", "American Small Sailing Craft" and his
pamphlet on Chesapeake Bay skiffs; in Harry V. Sucher's "Simplified
Boatbuilding" volume 1; and in Reuel Parker's "The Sharpie Book". I'd scan
an illustration out of one of those books, but I've got a cat on my lap...
On Sat, 10 Mar 2001 15:32:15 -0000, Peter wrote:
>
> In "The Floating Schooner," in the section on Surf, the caption on
> one of the pictures is "The crab skiff in action." I always wondered
> about that. References to crab skiffs are few and far between.
> ...
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People say that life is the thing, but I prefer reading. <Logan Pearsall Smith>
In "The Floating Schooner," in the section on Surf, the caption on
one of the pictures is "The crab skiff in action." I always wondered
about that. References to crab skiffs are few and far between.
Last night while paging through "The Sea Bright Sckiff and Other
Jersey Shore Boats" by Peter J. Guthorn, I found a plan for a
Shrewsbury crab skiff, that seems like an illustration of the right
type. (For UK readers, we are talking about the shore of the state of
New Jersey. The Shrewsbury river is at the north end of New Jersey's
Atlantic Coast.) Incidently, this book has a lot of ideas for anyone
interested in heavy surf boats.
I scanned the lines plan:
http://members.nbci.com/vandep/crabskiff.JPG
Did anyone else ever wonder about that?
Peter
one of the pictures is "The crab skiff in action." I always wondered
about that. References to crab skiffs are few and far between.
Last night while paging through "The Sea Bright Sckiff and Other
Jersey Shore Boats" by Peter J. Guthorn, I found a plan for a
Shrewsbury crab skiff, that seems like an illustration of the right
type. (For UK readers, we are talking about the shore of the state of
New Jersey. The Shrewsbury river is at the north end of New Jersey's
Atlantic Coast.) Incidently, this book has a lot of ideas for anyone
interested in heavy surf boats.
I scanned the lines plan:
http://members.nbci.com/vandep/crabskiff.JPG
Did anyone else ever wonder about that?
Peter