Re: [bolger] Re: waffling into spring.
On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, R Coy wrote:
one must either have extra house/garage/yard room, or an extremely
tolerant spouse (or there's always divorce . . .).
Washington state is good, but light winds in summer, and cold water at all
times in Puget Sound. Also, anchorages are few and far between--in some
connected parts of the sound, one may be off soundings only 50 feet from
shore (e.g., Hood Canal). However, some nice lakes, including Lake
Washington (quite large and mostly protected) add to things, and it's warm
enough to swim (sometimes, for some). Expensive to live near Seattle.
I rather like the Connecticut shore. Good protected waters, reasonable
air, although sometimes light in the summer, morning and afternoon breezes
are reasonably reliable. Expensive real estate everywhere, alas.
For the best all around Bolger stuff, I must say that I'd promote north
Florida. Very inexpensive, good weather much of the year (summers are
hot, hot and with light wind and lightning, it can be crazy to boat).
But for being to able to do the boating, it offers nine good months,
swimming, and cheap to live.
Note: I've lived in all of the above locations.
-Chris
> Truly a decision to stay in hte 48 or not is primary. If you want goodOne other important criterion: Cost of living/housing. To build a boat,
> sailing locations, check out Puget Sound in Washington State. Oregon
> is nice but not as many islands. Califorina is too expensice to move
> to. South seas sound good, temprate weather, clear water. CHina sea,
> but it gets cold there. Texas, but you have to stay underground in hte
> sumer to keep from getting blown away, Yak Yak Yak... somebody shut me
> up. Roger
one must either have extra house/garage/yard room, or an extremely
tolerant spouse (or there's always divorce . . .).
Washington state is good, but light winds in summer, and cold water at all
times in Puget Sound. Also, anchorages are few and far between--in some
connected parts of the sound, one may be off soundings only 50 feet from
shore (e.g., Hood Canal). However, some nice lakes, including Lake
Washington (quite large and mostly protected) add to things, and it's warm
enough to swim (sometimes, for some). Expensive to live near Seattle.
I rather like the Connecticut shore. Good protected waters, reasonable
air, although sometimes light in the summer, morning and afternoon breezes
are reasonably reliable. Expensive real estate everywhere, alas.
For the best all around Bolger stuff, I must say that I'd promote north
Florida. Very inexpensive, good weather much of the year (summers are
hot, hot and with light wind and lightning, it can be crazy to boat).
But for being to able to do the boating, it offers nine good months,
swimming, and cheap to live.
Note: I've lived in all of the above locations.
-Chris
Truly a decision to stay in hte 48 or not is primary.
If you want good sailing locations, check out Puget
Sound in Washington State.
Oregon is nice but not as many islands.
Califorina is too expensice to move to.
South seas sound good, temprate weather, clear water.
CHina sea, but it gets cold there.
Texas, but you have to stay underground in hte sumer
to keep from getting blown away,
Yak Yak Yak... somebody shut me up.
Roger
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If you want good sailing locations, check out Puget
Sound in Washington State.
Oregon is nice but not as many islands.
Califorina is too expensice to move to.
South seas sound good, temprate weather, clear water.
CHina sea, but it gets cold there.
Texas, but you have to stay underground in hte sumer
to keep from getting blown away,
Yak Yak Yak... somebody shut me up.
Roger
---garth@...wrote:
> --- In bolger@y..., "Jim Chamberlin RCSIS"__________________________________________________
> <jchamberlin@r...> wrote:
> > Biggest problem I had over this Winter was
> > the purchase of System Three quick hardner when my
> garage
> temperature hovered at a bone-chilling 48 degrees F.
>
>
> This discussion leads us to a question I've often
> pondered: where is
> the ideal place for a Bolger builder to live? Can we
> form a utopian
> commune somewhere?
>
> I'm sick of New York State winters -- not to mention
> the poorly sited
> location of my home -- 150 miles to the shore. Whose
> idea was that,
> anyway? So, if you could live anywhere, and were to
> decide based on
> certain Bolger-parameters:
>
> 1) good temeratures for building and sailing
> 2) lots of interesting waters nearby for boating,
> with ample access
> 3) general beauty and cool surroundings
> 4) what else?
>
> Where would it be? I love the islands off Maine, but
> Maine has
> freezing water even in August, and nasty winters.
> Down in the Florida
> Keys? Too hot in the summer. The Carolinas? Hmmm.
> Bug problems . . .
> San Francisco Bay? Maybe somewhere in New Zealand or
> Australia?
>
> We could form our own country, and of course, build
> our own Navy.
>
> All best,
>
> Garth
> (obviously way round the bend now with cabin fever,
> still looking out
> at a foot of snow that refuses to melt, and
> periodically regenerates)
>
>
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Mr. Ross,
Out of curiosity, which Michalak design are you building? I recently sent
for one of his catalogs and find several designs interesting. Thinking
about starting with one of the narrow paddling boats.
Out of curiosity, which Michalak design are you building? I recently sent
for one of his catalogs and find several designs interesting. Thinking
about starting with one of the narrow paddling boats.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lincoln Ross" <lincolnr@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 10:40 PM
Subject: [bolger] Re: waffling into spring.
> Watch out when it does warm up. If you've been sitting around all
> winter, don't get suckered in and overdo it. We had a day like that
> several weeks ago, I didn't stop when it started to hurt, and my back
> is still a mess. Be careful. Maybe it was bad karma for working on a
> Michalak boat instead of a Bolger boat?
> --- In bolger@y..., porcupine@d... wrote:
> > Bone chilling 48*F? I look foward to the day it finally gets that
> > warm at my house,
> >
> > david galvin
> >
> > (in the western Catskills, where it hit a sweltering 35*F
> > yesterday. "Hot enough to melt mercury!")
> >
> > --- In bolger@y..., "Jim Chamberlin RCSIS" <jchamberlin@r...> wrote:
> > >....Biggest problem I had over this Winter was
> > > the purchase of System Three quick hardner when my garage
> > >temperature
> > > hovered at a bone-chilling 48 degrees F....
>
>
>
> Bolger rules!!!
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01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
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Watch out when it does warm up. If you've been sitting around all
winter, don't get suckered in and overdo it. We had a day like that
several weeks ago, I didn't stop when it started to hurt, and my back
is still a mess. Be careful. Maybe it was bad karma for working on a
Michalak boat instead of a Bolger boat?
winter, don't get suckered in and overdo it. We had a day like that
several weeks ago, I didn't stop when it started to hurt, and my back
is still a mess. Be careful. Maybe it was bad karma for working on a
Michalak boat instead of a Bolger boat?
--- In bolger@y..., porcupine@d... wrote:
> Bone chilling 48*F? I look foward to the day it finally gets that
> warm at my house,
>
> david galvin
>
> (in the western Catskills, where it hit a sweltering 35*F
> yesterday. "Hot enough to melt mercury!")
>
> --- In bolger@y..., "Jim Chamberlin RCSIS" <jchamberlin@r...> wrote:
> >....Biggest problem I had over this Winter was
> > the purchase of System Three quick hardner when my garage
> >temperature
> > hovered at a bone-chilling 48 degrees F....
Garth,
Take 3 deep breaths and count to 10 between each one. BTW, I forgot to
mention that I was born and raised, some 3/5's of my life south of Lake Erie
in the Pennsylvania snow belt.
Jim
Take 3 deep breaths and count to 10 between each one. BTW, I forgot to
mention that I was born and raised, some 3/5's of my life south of Lake Erie
in the Pennsylvania snow belt.
Jim
> -----Original Message-----
> From:garth@...[mailto:garth@...]
> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 9:05 AM
> To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [bolger] Re: waffling into spring.
>
>
> --- In bolger@y..., "Jim Chamberlin RCSIS" <jchamberlin@r...> wrote:
> > Biggest problem I had over this Winter was
> > the purchase of System Three quick hardner when my garage
> temperature hovered at a bone-chilling 48 degrees F.
>
>
> This discussion leads us to a question I've often pondered: where is
> the ideal place for a Bolger builder to live? Can we form a utopian
> commune somewhere?
>
> I'm sick of New York State winters -- not to mention the poorly sited
> location of my home -- 150 miles to the shore. Whose idea was that,
> anyway? So, if you could live anywhere, and were to decide based on
> certain Bolger-parameters:
>
> 1) good temeratures for building and sailing
> 2) lots of interesting waters nearby for boating, with ample access
> 3) general beauty and cool surroundings
> 4) what else?
>
> Where would it be? I love the islands off Maine, but Maine has
> freezing water even in August, and nasty winters. Down in the Florida
> Keys? Too hot in the summer. The Carolinas? Hmmm. Bug problems . . .
> San Francisco Bay? Maybe somewhere in New Zealand or Australia?
>
> We could form our own country, and of course, build our own Navy.
>
> All best,
>
> Garth
> (obviously way round the bend now with cabin fever, still looking out
> at a foot of snow that refuses to melt, and periodically regenerates)
>
>
>
> Bolger rules!!!
> - no cursing, flaming, trolling, or spamming
> - no flogging dead horses
> - add something: take "thanks!" and "ditto!" posts off-list.
> - stay on topic and punctuate
> - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts
> - To order plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209,
> Gloucester, MA, 01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject tohttp://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
> Where isI'm a right-coaster, born and bred, and so is PCB, but I expect to
> the ideal place for a Bolger builder to live? Can we form a utopian
> commune somewhere?
>
hear someone suggest San Diego, CA.
Peter
--- In bolger@y..., "Jim Chamberlin RCSIS" <jchamberlin@r...> wrote:
This discussion leads us to a question I've often pondered: where is
the ideal place for a Bolger builder to live? Can we form a utopian
commune somewhere?
I'm sick of New York State winters -- not to mention the poorly sited
location of my home -- 150 miles to the shore. Whose idea was that,
anyway? So, if you could live anywhere, and were to decide based on
certain Bolger-parameters:
1) good temeratures for building and sailing
2) lots of interesting waters nearby for boating, with ample access
3) general beauty and cool surroundings
4) what else?
Where would it be? I love the islands off Maine, but Maine has
freezing water even in August, and nasty winters. Down in the Florida
Keys? Too hot in the summer. The Carolinas? Hmmm. Bug problems . . .
San Francisco Bay? Maybe somewhere in New Zealand or Australia?
We could form our own country, and of course, build our own Navy.
All best,
Garth
(obviously way round the bend now with cabin fever, still looking out
at a foot of snow that refuses to melt, and periodically regenerates)
> Biggest problem I had over this Winter wastemperature hovered at a bone-chilling 48 degrees F.
> the purchase of System Three quick hardner when my garage
This discussion leads us to a question I've often pondered: where is
the ideal place for a Bolger builder to live? Can we form a utopian
commune somewhere?
I'm sick of New York State winters -- not to mention the poorly sited
location of my home -- 150 miles to the shore. Whose idea was that,
anyway? So, if you could live anywhere, and were to decide based on
certain Bolger-parameters:
1) good temeratures for building and sailing
2) lots of interesting waters nearby for boating, with ample access
3) general beauty and cool surroundings
4) what else?
Where would it be? I love the islands off Maine, but Maine has
freezing water even in August, and nasty winters. Down in the Florida
Keys? Too hot in the summer. The Carolinas? Hmmm. Bug problems . . .
San Francisco Bay? Maybe somewhere in New Zealand or Australia?
We could form our own country, and of course, build our own Navy.
All best,
Garth
(obviously way round the bend now with cabin fever, still looking out
at a foot of snow that refuses to melt, and periodically regenerates)
Bone chilling 48*F? I look foward to the day it finally gets that
warm at my house,
david galvin
(in the western Catskills, where it hit a sweltering 35*F
yesterday. "Hot enough to melt mercury!")
warm at my house,
david galvin
(in the western Catskills, where it hit a sweltering 35*F
yesterday. "Hot enough to melt mercury!")
--- In bolger@y..., "Jim Chamberlin RCSIS" <jchamberlin@r...> wrote:
>....Biggest problem I had over this Winter was
> the purchase of System Three quick hardner when my garage
>temperature
> hovered at a bone-chilling 48 degrees F....
Too bad you couldn't spend any time studying the pre-Winter and Winter
habits of the Californian Bolgerites. The problem is we are too busy
boating and building more boats. Biggest problem I had over this Winter was
the purchase of System Three quick hardner when my garage temperature
hovered at a bone-chilling 48 degrees F.
Well, I have some fairing putty and taped seams to sand before going
kayaking later on this afternoon. And, yes, I am still between consulting
jobs.
Jim C.
habits of the Californian Bolgerites. The problem is we are too busy
boating and building more boats. Biggest problem I had over this Winter was
the purchase of System Three quick hardner when my garage temperature
hovered at a bone-chilling 48 degrees F.
Well, I have some fairing putty and taped seams to sand before going
kayaking later on this afternoon. And, yes, I am still between consulting
jobs.
Jim C.
> -----Original Message-----
> From:wattleweedooseeds@...
> [mailto:wattleweedooseeds@...]
> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 3:28 AM
> To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [bolger] waffling into spring.
>
>
> Its been fascinating to study the greater nothern bolgerite through
> its winter hibernation. we've heard how they dash about intheir
> little wooden boats through the autumn gathering fuel food and happy
> memories to last them through the winter. Then as winter sets in and
> the wet bits freeze over they muse over what life would be like in an
> endless summer. They chat about Caribbean sailing trips, Epoxy that
> sets solid at -10 or how to fix plastic coke bottle strips under
> their hulls to stop scuffing (now theres a thought). But now spring
> is upon them and thier cheerfull chatter is heard as theyclear away
> the winter build up of bottles of fortifier. spring is close at hand,
> the ice is breaking ,Even the kerosene after smell of a twin turbo
> prop hovercraft is a good thingto see , hear and smell. So waffle on
> oh greater northern bolgerite, The species has survived winters harsh
> onslaught and returned to play on lakes, rivers,ponds and beaches.
>
>
> But what of us lesser southern bolgerites approaching winter . On the
> banks of Gribble Creek, pondering the possibilities as another noisy
> trailbike kicks up the dust from the creek bed. All our lakes have
> started to smell a bit intertidal( I think thats as polite as I can
> get) And its the end of the cyclone season . Statistically we expect
> another flooding rain in 2027 so I better get moving on my schooner.
> Meanwhile the june bug has had a new coat of primer ready for its
> new colours. we ended up with 5 sails from 1
> polytarp ,main,mizzen,jib, kite and staysail.
> The kids are getting a bit excited too. this weekend we are going
> sailing with some scouts, and hope to have her up and rowing by then.
> All the spars came from a 104 year old radial cut oreogon? pine plank
> which recently came into my wood refuge after colliding with a
> caterpillarrrrrrrrr 988 loader on the building site which had been
> its home . beautiful piece it was to ,not a single knot in 11 ' of
> plank. the rest of its family was too injured or buried to be rescued
> but i saved this one before the security guard could take down my
> rego number. After pressure cleaning off the dirt and century old
> crust of rafterpoo( a good preservative I now know) I dried it, and
> quickly cut it up with the circular saw . I feel no guilt, It hasn't
> died but simply gone on to better, if not smaller , things.
> Time to go now , all this talk of wood puts me in a mind to make
> some kindling.
>
>
>
> Bolger rules!!!
> - no cursing, flaming, trolling, or spamming
> - no flogging dead horses
> - add something: take "thanks!" and "ditto!" posts off-list.
> - stay on topic and punctuate
> - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts
> - To order plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209,
> Gloucester, MA, 01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject tohttp://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
Its been fascinating to study the greater nothern bolgerite through
its winter hibernation. we've heard how they dash about intheir
little wooden boats through the autumn gathering fuel food and happy
memories to last them through the winter. Then as winter sets in and
the wet bits freeze over they muse over what life would be like in an
endless summer. They chat about Caribbean sailing trips, Epoxy that
sets solid at -10 or how to fix plastic coke bottle strips under
their hulls to stop scuffing (now theres a thought). But now spring
is upon them and thier cheerfull chatter is heard as theyclear away
the winter build up of bottles of fortifier. spring is close at hand,
the ice is breaking ,Even the kerosene after smell of a twin turbo
prop hovercraft is a good thingto see , hear and smell. So waffle on
oh greater northern bolgerite, The species has survived winters harsh
onslaught and returned to play on lakes, rivers,ponds and beaches.
But what of us lesser southern bolgerites approaching winter . On the
banks of Gribble Creek, pondering the possibilities as another noisy
trailbike kicks up the dust from the creek bed. All our lakes have
started to smell a bit intertidal( I think thats as polite as I can
get) And its the end of the cyclone season . Statistically we expect
another flooding rain in 2027 so I better get moving on my schooner.
Meanwhile the june bug has had a new coat of primer ready for its
new colours. we ended up with 5 sails from 1
polytarp ,main,mizzen,jib, kite and staysail.
The kids are getting a bit excited too. this weekend we are going
sailing with some scouts, and hope to have her up and rowing by then.
All the spars came from a 104 year old radial cut oreogon? pine plank
which recently came into my wood refuge after colliding with a
caterpillarrrrrrrrr 988 loader on the building site which had been
its home . beautiful piece it was to ,not a single knot in 11 ' of
plank. the rest of its family was too injured or buried to be rescued
but i saved this one before the security guard could take down my
rego number. After pressure cleaning off the dirt and century old
crust of rafterpoo( a good preservative I now know) I dried it, and
quickly cut it up with the circular saw . I feel no guilt, It hasn't
died but simply gone on to better, if not smaller , things.
Time to go now , all this talk of wood puts me in a mind to make
some kindling.
its winter hibernation. we've heard how they dash about intheir
little wooden boats through the autumn gathering fuel food and happy
memories to last them through the winter. Then as winter sets in and
the wet bits freeze over they muse over what life would be like in an
endless summer. They chat about Caribbean sailing trips, Epoxy that
sets solid at -10 or how to fix plastic coke bottle strips under
their hulls to stop scuffing (now theres a thought). But now spring
is upon them and thier cheerfull chatter is heard as theyclear away
the winter build up of bottles of fortifier. spring is close at hand,
the ice is breaking ,Even the kerosene after smell of a twin turbo
prop hovercraft is a good thingto see , hear and smell. So waffle on
oh greater northern bolgerite, The species has survived winters harsh
onslaught and returned to play on lakes, rivers,ponds and beaches.
But what of us lesser southern bolgerites approaching winter . On the
banks of Gribble Creek, pondering the possibilities as another noisy
trailbike kicks up the dust from the creek bed. All our lakes have
started to smell a bit intertidal( I think thats as polite as I can
get) And its the end of the cyclone season . Statistically we expect
another flooding rain in 2027 so I better get moving on my schooner.
Meanwhile the june bug has had a new coat of primer ready for its
new colours. we ended up with 5 sails from 1
polytarp ,main,mizzen,jib, kite and staysail.
The kids are getting a bit excited too. this weekend we are going
sailing with some scouts, and hope to have her up and rowing by then.
All the spars came from a 104 year old radial cut oreogon? pine plank
which recently came into my wood refuge after colliding with a
caterpillarrrrrrrrr 988 loader on the building site which had been
its home . beautiful piece it was to ,not a single knot in 11 ' of
plank. the rest of its family was too injured or buried to be rescued
but i saved this one before the security guard could take down my
rego number. After pressure cleaning off the dirt and century old
crust of rafterpoo( a good preservative I now know) I dried it, and
quickly cut it up with the circular saw . I feel no guilt, It hasn't
died but simply gone on to better, if not smaller , things.
Time to go now , all this talk of wood puts me in a mind to make
some kindling.