Re: [bolger] Giving advice
Jamie, I agree, we should be very careful with what we advise on these
pages. Most people are good natured and want very much to help others, but
they should be careful about giving weak and misleading advice.
About advice from experts, one point I would like make about accepting
something completely from experts without question, is to do so without
careful analysis of your own on the subject is foolhardy at the least.
Many times I have found some experts to be completely wrong on what they
advise they give, some are listed by you, and I take it, you mean if it
comes from these sources you should accept it without question (Blindly?).
Is this true? if it is I would question that recommendation.
What could or should be done is, if you suggest something on these
pages, you could give solid references to assert what it is your are saying
or at least some strong logical reasoning behind what it is you are
proposing.
In some cases it is very hard to prove something even with unquestionable
evidence, and then you must use your best reasoning and judgement.
Your idea however, I believe is unlikely to happen, and as the song says the
beat will go on. Don
pages. Most people are good natured and want very much to help others, but
they should be careful about giving weak and misleading advice.
About advice from experts, one point I would like make about accepting
something completely from experts without question, is to do so without
careful analysis of your own on the subject is foolhardy at the least.
Many times I have found some experts to be completely wrong on what they
advise they give, some are listed by you, and I take it, you mean if it
comes from these sources you should accept it without question (Blindly?).
Is this true? if it is I would question that recommendation.
What could or should be done is, if you suggest something on these
pages, you could give solid references to assert what it is your are saying
or at least some strong logical reasoning behind what it is you are
proposing.
In some cases it is very hard to prove something even with unquestionable
evidence, and then you must use your best reasoning and judgement.
Your idea however, I believe is unlikely to happen, and as the song says the
beat will go on. Don
----- Original Message -----
From: "Orr, Jamie" <jorr@...>
To: "'BolgerList'" <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 4:57 PM
Subject: [bolger] Giving advice
> Hi group
>
> This group is a great resources for beginners and those of us who
> occasionally want some help. I've got a lot of good information from it
> myself. However, I've sometimes wondered if some of the responses are
based
> more on personal preferences than facts.
>
> To help members evaluate the advice they are getting, I'd like to suggest
> that whenever we post advice or recommend something, we also say what
we're
> basing it on. This could be personal experience with the boat or product,
> or it could be something passed on from a recognized expert, such, Payson,
> Devlin or PCB himself. There's nothing wrong with passing on our own
> opinions too, or those of great uncle Louie, but we shouldn't set
ourselves
> or Louie up as experts if we're not.
>
> Anyway, folks, that's my two bits. I don't want to discourage anyone from
> speaking up, but if someone tells me that boat X is wonderful and I should
> build it, I'd like to know whether they've built it and sailed it a lot,
or
> if they just like the looks of it, or what. (come to think of it, I built
> the last one just because I liked the looks, but I got lucky.)
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Jamie Orr
>
>
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Hi group
This group is a great resources for beginners and those of us who
occasionally want some help. I've got a lot of good information from it
myself. However, I've sometimes wondered if some of the responses are based
more on personal preferences than facts.
To help members evaluate the advice they are getting, I'd like to suggest
that whenever we post advice or recommend something, we also say what we're
basing it on. This could be personal experience with the boat or product,
or it could be something passed on from a recognized expert, such, Payson,
Devlin or PCB himself. There's nothing wrong with passing on our own
opinions too, or those of great uncle Louie, but we shouldn't set ourselves
or Louie up as experts if we're not.
Anyway, folks, that's my two bits. I don't want to discourage anyone from
speaking up, but if someone tells me that boat X is wonderful and I should
build it, I'd like to know whether they've built it and sailed it a lot, or
if they just like the looks of it, or what. (come to think of it, I built
the last one just because I liked the looks, but I got lucky.)
Any thoughts?
Jamie Orr
This group is a great resources for beginners and those of us who
occasionally want some help. I've got a lot of good information from it
myself. However, I've sometimes wondered if some of the responses are based
more on personal preferences than facts.
To help members evaluate the advice they are getting, I'd like to suggest
that whenever we post advice or recommend something, we also say what we're
basing it on. This could be personal experience with the boat or product,
or it could be something passed on from a recognized expert, such, Payson,
Devlin or PCB himself. There's nothing wrong with passing on our own
opinions too, or those of great uncle Louie, but we shouldn't set ourselves
or Louie up as experts if we're not.
Anyway, folks, that's my two bits. I don't want to discourage anyone from
speaking up, but if someone tells me that boat X is wonderful and I should
build it, I'd like to know whether they've built it and sailed it a lot, or
if they just like the looks of it, or what. (come to think of it, I built
the last one just because I liked the looks, but I got lucky.)
Any thoughts?
Jamie Orr