Re: [bolger] Re: Alison's Fiddles
Any way to sneak in a boat project! Clyde
"Orr, Jamie" wrote:
"Orr, Jamie" wrote:
> Hey John, I thought the *Micro* spray/drip was right on topic! Not sure
> what it was, but Micro fans are pretty extreme....
>
> Jamie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:j.c.ewing@...[mailto:j.c.ewing@...]
> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 12:21 PM
> To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [bolger] Re: Alison's Fiddles
>
> Carron,
> On this List we have recently been told about Michalak AF4s being
> built and completed and, a while back, we talked about an AF2 and its
> trailer. There have been several generic discussions about 'best
> boats' according to various people's criteria and not-directly-Bolger
> threads have involved the Glen-L Sweet Caroline, the Betts GP-16 and
> others (including pond yachts and commercial, fiberglass sailboats).
> We have heard lamentations over the weather, observations about a
> giant moon, celebrations of geographic locals, confessions of
> procrastinations and professions of excuses.
> So just where did I go wrong? :-)
> John
>
> --- In bolger@y..., StepHydro@a... wrote:
> > In a message dated 04/12/2001 10:<BR47:<BR03 PM
> > Eastern Daylight, j.c.ewing@h... writes:
> > > finish a
> > > micro-spray/drip
> > > irrigation system in the garden.
> >
> > Bolger content :-)
> >
> > Carron
>
> Bolger rules!!!
> - no cursing, flaming, trolling, or spamming
> - no flogging dead horses
> - add something: take "thanks!" and "ditto!" posts off-list.
> - stay on topic and punctuate
> - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts
> - To order plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA,
> 01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
>
>
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>
> Bolger rules!!!
> - no cursing, flaming, trolling, or spamming
> - no flogging dead horses
> - add something: take "thanks!" and "ditto!" posts off-list.
> - stay on topic and punctuate
> - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts
> - To order plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA, 01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
>
>
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>From: Stan Muller <smuller@...>Well since you brought it up. I would like to know what others on this list
>Extreme? We all know that the Micro spray/drip is roomer, more >stable,
>self righting, self rescuing, safer, points better, and in >general is a
>nicer and more comfortable than any other spray/drip!!! >This is NOT
>extreme, Micro spray/drip is the BEST!! Micro, the only >spray/drip that is
>bigger on the inside than on the outside. Micro >the biggest 16 ft.
>spray/drip available!!!!
>Just Stan, Snow Goose, with a non-exterme unbiased observation.
thing of Jim Michalak's Musicbox3, a Micro like design using water ballasted
with leeboard. I have been interested in the Micro but the lead keel really
puts me off (hot lead and poison fumes are not my idea of fun). Jim's
Musicbox3 looks like it has most of the function of a Mirco but would be
easier to build, trailer, and setup.
Let the debate begin!)
Michael Surface
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I really can not
| understand why there are not 100 of these under
| construction right now.
|
| Max
|
There are at least two under construction here in Atlanta right now. It's a
start...
JB
| understand why there are not 100 of these under
| construction right now.
|
| Max
|
There are at least two under construction here in Atlanta right now. It's a
start...
JB
> Hey John, I thought the *Micro* spray/drip was right on topic! Not sureExtreme? We all know that the Micro spray/drip is roomer, more stable,
> what it was, but Micro fans are pretty extreme....
>
> Jamie
self righting, self rescuing, safer, points better, and in general is a
nicer and more comfortable than any other spray/drip!!! This is NOT
extreme, Micro spray/drip is the BEST!! Micro, the only spray/drip that
is bigger on the inside than on the outside. Micro the biggest 16 ft.
spray/drip available!!!!
Just Stan, Snow Goose, with a non-exterme unbiased observation.
--- In bolger@y..., j.c.ewing@h... wrote:
Lake (central Illinois) where Jim Michalak and I spent
several hours running heavy (mine) and light (his)
versions of AF4's. Concerning transom immersion,
when Jim's boat was running at about 3/4 throttle with the 10,
about 12-14 mph (not knots), and he was sitting just
aft of the rear bulkhead of the cabin, steering with
a tiller extension, the transom of his boat was no more
that 3 inches in the water (using the external chine
logs as a reference) and the wake was about as flat
as a wake could be. I think I have some photos of
this, but it will be a week or so before they are
developed. He has also run his boat with an
air-cooled 5hp, that weighs about 1/2 of what his
10 hp weighs, and I believe it cruises at
about 5 or 6 mph and I would bet the transom immersion
is no more than 2 inches. Wake is probably almost
non-existant.
Depending upon how heavy you build it, how heavy
you load it, and how you have the load placed,
the AF4 can be a very low-wake boat, while still
retaining the option for higher speed travel.
By the way, unless you are going to do something
really silly with it, there is no need for more
than 18-20 hp on an AF4.
This is a really quick, easy, and cheap boat to
build; performs very well with low power; is
veratile enough to be used for fishing, over-
nighting, or day-tripping, and is a simple,
good looking boat that can be built utilitarian-
plain or yacht-fancy. I really can not
understand why there are not 100 of these under
construction right now.
Max
>I have just returned from a beautiful day on Carlyle
Lake (central Illinois) where Jim Michalak and I spent
several hours running heavy (mine) and light (his)
versions of AF4's. Concerning transom immersion,
when Jim's boat was running at about 3/4 throttle with the 10,
about 12-14 mph (not knots), and he was sitting just
aft of the rear bulkhead of the cabin, steering with
a tiller extension, the transom of his boat was no more
that 3 inches in the water (using the external chine
logs as a reference) and the wake was about as flat
as a wake could be. I think I have some photos of
this, but it will be a week or so before they are
developed. He has also run his boat with an
air-cooled 5hp, that weighs about 1/2 of what his
10 hp weighs, and I believe it cruises at
about 5 or 6 mph and I would bet the transom immersion
is no more than 2 inches. Wake is probably almost
non-existant.
Depending upon how heavy you build it, how heavy
you load it, and how you have the load placed,
the AF4 can be a very low-wake boat, while still
retaining the option for higher speed travel.
By the way, unless you are going to do something
really silly with it, there is no need for more
than 18-20 hp on an AF4.
This is a really quick, easy, and cheap boat to
build; performs very well with low power; is
veratile enough to be used for fishing, over-
nighting, or day-tripping, and is a simple,
good looking boat that can be built utilitarian-
plain or yacht-fancy. I really can not
understand why there are not 100 of these under
construction right now.
Max
Hey John, I thought the *Micro* spray/drip was right on topic! Not sure
what it was, but Micro fans are pretty extreme....
Jamie
-----Original Message-----
From:j.c.ewing@...[mailto:j.c.ewing@...]
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 12:21 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Re: Alison's Fiddles
Carron,
On this List we have recently been told about Michalak AF4s being
built and completed and, a while back, we talked about an AF2 and its
trailer. There have been several generic discussions about 'best
boats' according to various people's criteria and not-directly-Bolger
threads have involved the Glen-L Sweet Caroline, the Betts GP-16 and
others (including pond yachts and commercial, fiberglass sailboats).
We have heard lamentations over the weather, observations about a
giant moon, celebrations of geographic locals, confessions of
procrastinations and professions of excuses.
So just where did I go wrong? :-)
John
what it was, but Micro fans are pretty extreme....
Jamie
-----Original Message-----
From:j.c.ewing@...[mailto:j.c.ewing@...]
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 12:21 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Re: Alison's Fiddles
Carron,
On this List we have recently been told about Michalak AF4s being
built and completed and, a while back, we talked about an AF2 and its
trailer. There have been several generic discussions about 'best
boats' according to various people's criteria and not-directly-Bolger
threads have involved the Glen-L Sweet Caroline, the Betts GP-16 and
others (including pond yachts and commercial, fiberglass sailboats).
We have heard lamentations over the weather, observations about a
giant moon, celebrations of geographic locals, confessions of
procrastinations and professions of excuses.
So just where did I go wrong? :-)
John
--- In bolger@y..., StepHydro@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 04/12/2001 10:<BR47:<BR03 PM
> Eastern Daylight, j.c.ewing@h... writes:
> > finish a
> > micro-spray/drip
> > irrigation system in the garden.
>
> Bolger content :-)
>
> Carron
Bolger rules!!!
- no cursing, flaming, trolling, or spamming
- no flogging dead horses
- add something: take "thanks!" and "ditto!" posts off-list.
- stay on topic and punctuate
- add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts
- To order plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA,
01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject tohttp://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
In a message dated 04/13/2001 3:<BR22:<BR13 PM
Eastern Daylight ,j.c.ewing@...writes:
buddy, I certainly wasn't scolding you. If there is a list of "offenders", I
must be high on it, as I have a Scram Pram that I discuss at times :-)
You might not have noticed that we indulge in *a lot* of whimsical humor,
which was what my remark was intended to be.
Cheers and keep on boating/Carron
Eastern Daylight ,j.c.ewing@...writes:
> On this List we have recently been told about Michalak AF4s beingjc,
> built and completed and, a while back, we talked about an AF2 and its
> trailer. So just where did I go wrong? :-
buddy, I certainly wasn't scolding you. If there is a list of "offenders", I
must be high on it, as I have a Scram Pram that I discuss at times :-)
You might not have noticed that we indulge in *a lot* of whimsical humor,
which was what my remark was intended to be.
Cheers and keep on boating/Carron
John and Chuck
Thank you for your response. Wake is a concern to me, yes, but, more
importantly, absolute speed is a concern to the law around here
(although I'd like to retain the ability to go a little faster
on 'trailer-to' waters). I'm not certain what the Gorge/Inlet speed
limit actually is (just a few knots) but I read with interest the
recent WoodenBoat article about the Handy Billy which "shows a deep
forefoot and a narrow transom" and "slithers onto a plane rather than
climbing over a hump". Is this achievable in 'instant boat' form? I
strongly suspect that Handy Billy is beyond my capabilities for some
long while.
John
P.S. I also don't want to aggravate local environmentalist agitation
about boats in general and power boats in particular.
Thank you for your response. Wake is a concern to me, yes, but, more
importantly, absolute speed is a concern to the law around here
(although I'd like to retain the ability to go a little faster
on 'trailer-to' waters). I'm not certain what the Gorge/Inlet speed
limit actually is (just a few knots) but I read with interest the
recent WoodenBoat article about the Handy Billy which "shows a deep
forefoot and a narrow transom" and "slithers onto a plane rather than
climbing over a hump". Is this achievable in 'instant boat' form? I
strongly suspect that Handy Billy is beyond my capabilities for some
long while.
John
P.S. I also don't want to aggravate local environmentalist agitation
about boats in general and power boats in particular.
--- In bolger@y..., "John Bell" <jmbell@m...> wrote:
> In a recent Bolger interview posted in the files, PCB hisself said
that he
> highly approves of Michalak's designs. I think that's more than
enough
> reason to discuss his designs here if there had previously been any
doubt.
> There hasn't, so let's talk...
>
> I've not seen an AF2 in person, but I've been on an AF4. I'm also
building
> an AF4.
>
> In speed limited places, my experience is that boats that make
little wake
> at a higher speed raise fewer eyebrows than boats running slower
that are
> rolling big wakes.If the size of the wake is the big problem it
would seem
> to me that a deep bellied boat like the AF2 would create deeper
waves at
> hull speed than a shallower bodied hull like AF4. Even at speed
with Jim,
> Max, and myself it did not make that much in the way of waves. I'd
estimate
> our combined weight at ~600#, 220# of which was me. I'm not so
great at
> estimating speeds, but we were running around 10-12 mph, clearly on
plane.
>
> If you aren't interested in running at 15-20 mph at all, then AF2
might be a
> better choice since you can rig it for sail if you like. Sailing an
AF4
> would probably not be such a great idea.
>
> Despite it's size, AF4 is a pretty easy building job. A first time
builder
> would not have any trouble knocking one together. If that's what
you want,
> go for it.
>
> (I have to admit one attraction I have for the Alison's Fiddle
series is
> that a) my daughter's name is Alison, and b) both names were
inspired by
> Alison Krauss, whose voice ripped my heart out the first time I
heard her a
> dozen-odd years ago.)
>
> Best,
>
> JB in pollen covered Kennesaw.
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <j.c.ewing@h...>
> To: <bolger@y...>
> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 10:44 PM
> Subject: [bolger] Alison's Fiddles
>
>
> |
> | The recent thread about enlarging the AF4 power boat and Chuck
> | Leinweber's recollection of Jim Michalak suggesting he "just use
the
> | boat (Caprice) as a motor boat" until the rig is done -- or not
even
> | build the rig -- recalls my ponderings a while back about the
> | Michalak AF2. Since planing speeds are not allowed on our Gorge
> | Waterway/Portage Inlet anyway, wouldn't its sailing-sharpie hull
> | shape be more efficient and leave less wake with a low-powered
> | outboard (say 5-8 hp) than the AF4? The latter's hull lines are,
of
> | course, straighter and the transom would drag at low speed, right?
> |
> | One down side is that the 20'x5.5' AF2 absorbs many more sheets of
> | plywood than the 18'x5' AF4 and weighs something like 250 lbs.
more.
> | There's also the 16'x5'AF3 sailing sharpie weighing in at 50 lbs.
> | less than the AF4)but Michalak says there's no room on the AF3
stern
> | for a motor. All AFs have the Birdwatcher-type cabin for moving
about
> | and the AF2 (or AF3) would provide the option of adding sail when
> | skills and finances permit at a later date.
> |
> | This is a Bolger group and not a Michalak one, I know, but
Michalak's
> | designs come directly from Bolger roots. Anyway, I still plan
first
> | to build one of the smaller Bolger/Payson 'instant boats'
(probably
> | Elegant Punt or Surf. Or maybe a Michalak Slam Dink... So many
> | choices, even in basic boats! I'll pick minds in Depoe Bay.
> |
> | In the meantime, Victoria has had a record-dry winter and my wife
is
> | applying pressure (so to speak) to finish a micro-spray/drip
> | irrigation system in the garden. Plus build a side fence. Plus...
You
> | get the picture.
> |
> | John
> |
> |
> | Bolger rules!!!
> | - no cursing, flaming, trolling, or spamming
> | - no flogging dead horses
> | - add something: take "thanks!" and "ditto!" posts off-list.
> | - stay on topic and punctuate
> | - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts
> | - To order plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209,
Gloucester, MA,
> 01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
> |
> |
> | Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> |
> |
Carron,
On this List we have recently been told about Michalak AF4s being
built and completed and, a while back, we talked about an AF2 and its
trailer. There have been several generic discussions about 'best
boats' according to various people's criteria and not-directly-Bolger
threads have involved the Glen-L Sweet Caroline, the Betts GP-16 and
others (including pond yachts and commercial, fiberglass sailboats).
We have heard lamentations over the weather, observations about a
giant moon, celebrations of geographic locals, confessions of
procrastinations and professions of excuses.
So just where did I go wrong? :-)
John
On this List we have recently been told about Michalak AF4s being
built and completed and, a while back, we talked about an AF2 and its
trailer. There have been several generic discussions about 'best
boats' according to various people's criteria and not-directly-Bolger
threads have involved the Glen-L Sweet Caroline, the Betts GP-16 and
others (including pond yachts and commercial, fiberglass sailboats).
We have heard lamentations over the weather, observations about a
giant moon, celebrations of geographic locals, confessions of
procrastinations and professions of excuses.
So just where did I go wrong? :-)
John
--- In bolger@y..., StepHydro@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 04/12/2001 10:<BR47:<BR03 PM
> Eastern Daylight, j.c.ewing@h... writes:
> > finish a
> > micro-spray/drip
> > irrigation system in the garden.
>
> Bolger content :-)
>
> Carron
My Tennessee was the same way. She had enough rocker to keep the bow and
stern just above the water, and she slipped along at 10+ with no fuss
whatsoever. You are right, Harry, it is deceptive.
http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/articles/building/index.htm
Chuck
stern just above the water, and she slipped along at 10+ with no fuss
whatsoever. You are right, Harry, it is deceptive.
http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/articles/building/index.htm
Chuck
> If your after speed with no wake, then you cannot beat the Sneakeasy.Reading Bolger's comments, and
> thinking about it ahead of time still did not prepare me for the firstride in Fritz's Sneakeasy.
>disorientation, because
>http://www.alaska.net/~fritzf/Boats/Sneakeasy/Sneakeasy.htm
>
> Smooth, the light chop imperceptible, looking at the water going by caused
> all your other senses said that you could not be going that fast. I thinka person, standing in the
> water with their back to you would never know that you had gone by, eventhough you could be doing 10
> kts or more.trailer.
>
> The boat is very light, I think I remember 4 people putting it on the
>
> HJ
If your after speed with no wake, then you cannot beat the Sneakeasy. Reading Bolger's comments, and
thinking about it ahead of time still did not prepare me for the first ride in Fritz's Sneakeasy.
http://www.alaska.net/~fritzf/Boats/Sneakeasy/Sneakeasy.htm
Smooth, the light chop imperceptible, looking at the water going by caused disorientation, because
all your other senses said that you could not be going that fast. I think a person, standing in the
water with their back to you would never know that you had gone by, even though you could be doing 10
kts or more.
The boat is very light, I think I remember 4 people putting it on the trailer.
HJ
thinking about it ahead of time still did not prepare me for the first ride in Fritz's Sneakeasy.
http://www.alaska.net/~fritzf/Boats/Sneakeasy/Sneakeasy.htm
Smooth, the light chop imperceptible, looking at the water going by caused disorientation, because
all your other senses said that you could not be going that fast. I think a person, standing in the
water with their back to you would never know that you had gone by, even though you could be doing 10
kts or more.
The boat is very light, I think I remember 4 people putting it on the trailer.
HJ
> Michalak AF2. Since planing speeds are not allowed on our Gorge
> Waterway/Portage Inlet anyway, wouldn't its sailing-sharpie hull
> shape be more efficient and leave less wake with a low-powered
> outboard (say 5-8 hp) than the AF4? The latter's hull lines are, of
> course, straighter and the transom would drag at low speed, right?
>
> One down side is that the 20'x5.5' AF2 absorbs many more sheets of
> plywood than the 18'x5' AF4 and weighs something like 250 lbs. more.
> There's also the 16'x5'AF3 sailing sharpie weighing in at 50 lbs.
> less than the AF4)but Michalak says there's no room on the AF3 stern
> for a motor. All AFs have the Birdwatcher-type cabin for moving about
> and the AF2 (or AF3) would provide the option of adding sail when
> skills and finances permit at a later date.
>
In a recent Bolger interview posted in the files, PCB hisself said that he
highly approves of Michalak's designs. I think that's more than enough
reason to discuss his designs here if there had previously been any doubt.
There hasn't, so let's talk...
I've not seen an AF2 in person, but I've been on an AF4. I'm also building
an AF4.
In speed limited places, my experience is that boats that make little wake
at a higher speed raise fewer eyebrows than boats running slower that are
rolling big wakes.If the size of the wake is the big problem it would seem
to me that a deep bellied boat like the AF2 would create deeper waves at
hull speed than a shallower bodied hull like AF4. Even at speed with Jim,
Max, and myself it did not make that much in the way of waves. I'd estimate
our combined weight at ~600#, 220# of which was me. I'm not so great at
estimating speeds, but we were running around 10-12 mph, clearly on plane.
If you aren't interested in running at 15-20 mph at all, then AF2 might be a
better choice since you can rig it for sail if you like. Sailing an AF4
would probably not be such a great idea.
Despite it's size, AF4 is a pretty easy building job. A first time builder
would not have any trouble knocking one together. If that's what you want,
go for it.
(I have to admit one attraction I have for the Alison's Fiddle series is
that a) my daughter's name is Alison, and b) both names were inspired by
Alison Krauss, whose voice ripped my heart out the first time I heard her a
dozen-odd years ago.)
Best,
JB in pollen covered Kennesaw.
highly approves of Michalak's designs. I think that's more than enough
reason to discuss his designs here if there had previously been any doubt.
There hasn't, so let's talk...
I've not seen an AF2 in person, but I've been on an AF4. I'm also building
an AF4.
In speed limited places, my experience is that boats that make little wake
at a higher speed raise fewer eyebrows than boats running slower that are
rolling big wakes.If the size of the wake is the big problem it would seem
to me that a deep bellied boat like the AF2 would create deeper waves at
hull speed than a shallower bodied hull like AF4. Even at speed with Jim,
Max, and myself it did not make that much in the way of waves. I'd estimate
our combined weight at ~600#, 220# of which was me. I'm not so great at
estimating speeds, but we were running around 10-12 mph, clearly on plane.
If you aren't interested in running at 15-20 mph at all, then AF2 might be a
better choice since you can rig it for sail if you like. Sailing an AF4
would probably not be such a great idea.
Despite it's size, AF4 is a pretty easy building job. A first time builder
would not have any trouble knocking one together. If that's what you want,
go for it.
(I have to admit one attraction I have for the Alison's Fiddle series is
that a) my daughter's name is Alison, and b) both names were inspired by
Alison Krauss, whose voice ripped my heart out the first time I heard her a
dozen-odd years ago.)
Best,
JB in pollen covered Kennesaw.
----- Original Message -----
From: <j.c.ewing@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 10:44 PM
Subject: [bolger] Alison's Fiddles
|
| The recent thread about enlarging the AF4 power boat and Chuck
| Leinweber's recollection of Jim Michalak suggesting he "just use the
| boat (Caprice) as a motor boat" until the rig is done -- or not even
| build the rig -- recalls my ponderings a while back about the
| Michalak AF2. Since planing speeds are not allowed on our Gorge
| Waterway/Portage Inlet anyway, wouldn't its sailing-sharpie hull
| shape be more efficient and leave less wake with a low-powered
| outboard (say 5-8 hp) than the AF4? The latter's hull lines are, of
| course, straighter and the transom would drag at low speed, right?
|
| One down side is that the 20'x5.5' AF2 absorbs many more sheets of
| plywood than the 18'x5' AF4 and weighs something like 250 lbs. more.
| There's also the 16'x5'AF3 sailing sharpie weighing in at 50 lbs.
| less than the AF4)but Michalak says there's no room on the AF3 stern
| for a motor. All AFs have the Birdwatcher-type cabin for moving about
| and the AF2 (or AF3) would provide the option of adding sail when
| skills and finances permit at a later date.
|
| This is a Bolger group and not a Michalak one, I know, but Michalak's
| designs come directly from Bolger roots. Anyway, I still plan first
| to build one of the smaller Bolger/Payson 'instant boats' (probably
| Elegant Punt or Surf. Or maybe a Michalak Slam Dink... So many
| choices, even in basic boats! I'll pick minds in Depoe Bay.
|
| In the meantime, Victoria has had a record-dry winter and my wife is
| applying pressure (so to speak) to finish a micro-spray/drip
| irrigation system in the garden. Plus build a side fence. Plus... You
| get the picture.
|
| John
|
|
| Bolger rules!!!
| - no cursing, flaming, trolling, or spamming
| - no flogging dead horses
| - add something: take "thanks!" and "ditto!" posts off-list.
| - stay on topic and punctuate
| - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts
| - To order plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA,
01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
|
|
| Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject tohttp://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
|
|
In a message dated 04/12/2001 10:<BR47:<BR03 PM
Eastern Daylight,j.c.ewing@...writes:
Carron
Eastern Daylight,j.c.ewing@...writes:
> finish aBolger content :-)
> micro-spray/drip
> irrigation system in the garden.
Carron
The recent thread about enlarging the AF4 power boat and Chuck
Leinweber's recollection of Jim Michalak suggesting he "just use the
boat (Caprice) as a motor boat" until the rig is done -- or not even
build the rig -- recalls my ponderings a while back about the
Michalak AF2. Since planing speeds are not allowed on our Gorge
Waterway/Portage Inlet anyway, wouldn't its sailing-sharpie hull
shape be more efficient and leave less wake with a low-powered
outboard (say 5-8 hp) than the AF4? The latter's hull lines are, of
course, straighter and the transom would drag at low speed, right?
One down side is that the 20'x5.5' AF2 absorbs many more sheets of
plywood than the 18'x5' AF4 and weighs something like 250 lbs. more.
There's also the 16'x5'AF3 sailing sharpie weighing in at 50 lbs.
less than the AF4)but Michalak says there's no room on the AF3 stern
for a motor. All AFs have the Birdwatcher-type cabin for moving about
and the AF2 (or AF3) would provide the option of adding sail when
skills and finances permit at a later date.
This is a Bolger group and not a Michalak one, I know, but Michalak's
designs come directly from Bolger roots. Anyway, I still plan first
to build one of the smaller Bolger/Payson 'instant boats' (probably
Elegant Punt or Surf. Or maybe a Michalak Slam Dink... So many
choices, even in basic boats! I'll pick minds in Depoe Bay.
In the meantime, Victoria has had a record-dry winter and my wife is
applying pressure (so to speak) to finish a micro-spray/drip
irrigation system in the garden. Plus build a side fence. Plus... You
get the picture.
John
Leinweber's recollection of Jim Michalak suggesting he "just use the
boat (Caprice) as a motor boat" until the rig is done -- or not even
build the rig -- recalls my ponderings a while back about the
Michalak AF2. Since planing speeds are not allowed on our Gorge
Waterway/Portage Inlet anyway, wouldn't its sailing-sharpie hull
shape be more efficient and leave less wake with a low-powered
outboard (say 5-8 hp) than the AF4? The latter's hull lines are, of
course, straighter and the transom would drag at low speed, right?
One down side is that the 20'x5.5' AF2 absorbs many more sheets of
plywood than the 18'x5' AF4 and weighs something like 250 lbs. more.
There's also the 16'x5'AF3 sailing sharpie weighing in at 50 lbs.
less than the AF4)but Michalak says there's no room on the AF3 stern
for a motor. All AFs have the Birdwatcher-type cabin for moving about
and the AF2 (or AF3) would provide the option of adding sail when
skills and finances permit at a later date.
This is a Bolger group and not a Michalak one, I know, but Michalak's
designs come directly from Bolger roots. Anyway, I still plan first
to build one of the smaller Bolger/Payson 'instant boats' (probably
Elegant Punt or Surf. Or maybe a Michalak Slam Dink... So many
choices, even in basic boats! I'll pick minds in Depoe Bay.
In the meantime, Victoria has had a record-dry winter and my wife is
applying pressure (so to speak) to finish a micro-spray/drip
irrigation system in the garden. Plus build a side fence. Plus... You
get the picture.
John