Re: paint disaster
Hello Jim,
I built an ELVER a number of years ago and due to budgetitis
reallytightis had to give up any dreams of going with
real"yacht"paints.Instead,I used SICO brand SUPER ALKYD porch paint at
$23.00Can per gallon.After giving my sanded epoxy a good scrubbing,
with one of those green scouring pads normally used for tough baked on
food bits,and lots of nice hot soapy water,I followed the directions
on the can.
Well.....the el cheapo paint,which I figured might just last a
couple of months,ended up not needing to be touched up for three whole
years!Mind you,this worked in a somewhat northern type climate,with a
pathetically short summer and so called"fresh water".Your conditions
may be very different.
Later,when I built my MICRO,I opted for the so called first class
yacht finish/paints(budgetitis notsotightis).Yes,I had a wonderfull
selection of colours from Interlux Yacht Paints and grand price tags
to match.However,painting with their products is abit like
cooking...you need all the little support products to
ensure"proper"application of the finish coat.
The upshot after 7 full seasons?Hmmmmmm......the finish is nice
but needs expensive,fussy maintenance.If I were to do it again,I would
seriously consider going back to good old porch paint and put the
savings into some fine liquid refreshments that do not need ice.
Good luck with your paint job and have a funfilled,safe season on
the water!!!!!!
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan................
I built an ELVER a number of years ago and due to budgetitis
reallytightis had to give up any dreams of going with
real"yacht"paints.Instead,I used SICO brand SUPER ALKYD porch paint at
$23.00Can per gallon.After giving my sanded epoxy a good scrubbing,
with one of those green scouring pads normally used for tough baked on
food bits,and lots of nice hot soapy water,I followed the directions
on the can.
Well.....the el cheapo paint,which I figured might just last a
couple of months,ended up not needing to be touched up for three whole
years!Mind you,this worked in a somewhat northern type climate,with a
pathetically short summer and so called"fresh water".Your conditions
may be very different.
Later,when I built my MICRO,I opted for the so called first class
yacht finish/paints(budgetitis notsotightis).Yes,I had a wonderfull
selection of colours from Interlux Yacht Paints and grand price tags
to match.However,painting with their products is abit like
cooking...you need all the little support products to
ensure"proper"application of the finish coat.
The upshot after 7 full seasons?Hmmmmmm......the finish is nice
but needs expensive,fussy maintenance.If I were to do it again,I would
seriously consider going back to good old porch paint and put the
savings into some fine liquid refreshments that do not need ice.
Good luck with your paint job and have a funfilled,safe season on
the water!!!!!!
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan................
--- In bolger@y..., "Jim Chamberlin RCSIS" <jchamberlin@r...> wrote:
> Richard,
> Thanks for the timely tip. I have to repaint my Pointy Skiff due to
a
> problem with the porch and deck paint I originally used. Sounds
like I'll
> be sanding a bit before applying the exterior latex house paint.
> Jim
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: richard@s... [mailto:richard@s...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 9:16 PM
> > To: bolger@y...
> > Subject: [bolger] paint disaster
> >
> >
> > A note to anyone interested. Exterior latex house paint does not
> > stick to porch paint. Or, it sticks till it gets wet, which doen't
> > help with a boat, I guess.
> >
> > And, or course, I didn't follow the first rule of painting, try
the
> > paint on a small area first.
> >
> > The good thing I guess is that it comes off with a little elbow
> > grease, and a lot of water from the water hose....
> >
> > Bad thing, I have to repaint the whole boat!
> >
> >
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> >
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Ah, I would suggest you test a small area first. Get it soaking wet,
and rub vigourously.
and rub vigourously.
--- In bolger@y..., "Jim Chamberlin RCSIS" <jchamberlin@r...> wrote:
> Richard,
> Thanks for the timely tip. I have to repaint my Pointy Skiff due
to a
> problem with the porch and deck paint I originally used. Sounds
like I'll
> be sanding a bit before applying the exterior latex house paint.
> Jim
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: richard@s... [mailto:richard@s...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 9:16 PM
> > To: bolger@y...
> > Subject: [bolger] paint disaster
> >
> >
> > A note to anyone interested. Exterior latex house paint does not
> > stick to porch paint. Or, it sticks till it gets wet, which doen't
> > help with a boat, I guess.
> >
> > And, or course, I didn't follow the first rule of painting, try
the
> > paint on a small area first.
> >
> > The good thing I guess is that it comes off with a little elbow
> > grease, and a lot of water from the water hose....
> >
> > Bad thing, I have to repaint the whole boat!
> >
> >
> > Bolger rules!!!
> > - no cursing, flaming, trolling, or spamming
> > - no flogging dead horses
> > - add something: take "thanks!" and "ditto!" posts off-list.
> > - stay on topic and punctuate
> > - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts
> > - To order plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209,
> > Gloucester, MA, 01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
Behr, porch and deck.
No surface prep, new latex over old paint.
If I have to prime, over existing paint, what's the point?
Putting the same type of porch paint on works fine, except where
there is any of the evil paint on the boat. Even the smallest spec,
that you can't scraped or hosed off, will cause the new porch paint
to not stick.
Buying a pressure washer to get the evil paint I couldn't hose off
off the boat.
No surface prep, new latex over old paint.
If I have to prime, over existing paint, what's the point?
Putting the same type of porch paint on works fine, except where
there is any of the evil paint on the boat. Even the smallest spec,
that you can't scraped or hosed off, will cause the new porch paint
to not stick.
Buying a pressure washer to get the evil paint I couldn't hose off
off the boat.
--- In bolger@y..., "Lincoln Ross" <lincolnr@m...> wrote:
> What kind of "porch paint"? What kind of surface prep? How much
drying time?
>
> There are some special primers out there which can stick
tenaciously. Maybe you should do some experiments and find one of
those to use first.
>
> Good luck
> --- In bolger@y..., richard@s... wrote:
> > A note to anyone interested. Exterior latex house paint does not
> > stick to porch paint. Or, it sticks till it gets wet, which
doen't
> > help with a boat, I guess.
> >
> > And, or course, I didn't follow the first rule of painting, try
the
> > paint on a small area first.
> >
> > The good thing I guess is that it comes off with a little elbow
> > grease, and a lot of water from the water hose....
> >
> > Bad thing, I have to repaint the whole boat!
Richard,
Thanks for the timely tip. I have to repaint my Pointy Skiff due to a
problem with the porch and deck paint I originally used. Sounds like I'll
be sanding a bit before applying the exterior latex house paint.
Jim
Thanks for the timely tip. I have to repaint my Pointy Skiff due to a
problem with the porch and deck paint I originally used. Sounds like I'll
be sanding a bit before applying the exterior latex house paint.
Jim
> -----Original Message-----
> From:richard@...[mailto:richard@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 9:16 PM
> To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [bolger] paint disaster
>
>
> A note to anyone interested. Exterior latex house paint does not
> stick to porch paint. Or, it sticks till it gets wet, which doen't
> help with a boat, I guess.
>
> And, or course, I didn't follow the first rule of painting, try the
> paint on a small area first.
>
> The good thing I guess is that it comes off with a little elbow
> grease, and a lot of water from the water hose....
>
> Bad thing, I have to repaint the whole boat!
>
>
> Bolger rules!!!
> - no cursing, flaming, trolling, or spamming
> - no flogging dead horses
> - add something: take "thanks!" and "ditto!" posts off-list.
> - stay on topic and punctuate
> - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts
> - To order plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209,
> Gloucester, MA, 01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject tohttp://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
What kind of "porch paint"? What kind of surface prep? How much drying time?
There are some special primers out there which can stick tenaciously. Maybe you should do some experiments and find one of those to use first.
Good luck
There are some special primers out there which can stick tenaciously. Maybe you should do some experiments and find one of those to use first.
Good luck
--- In bolger@y..., richard@s... wrote:
> A note to anyone interested. Exterior latex house paint does not
> stick to porch paint. Or, it sticks till it gets wet, which doen't
> help with a boat, I guess.
>
> And, or course, I didn't follow the first rule of painting, try the
> paint on a small area first.
>
> The good thing I guess is that it comes off with a little elbow
> grease, and a lot of water from the water hose....
>
> Bad thing, I have to repaint the whole boat!
A note to anyone interested. Exterior latex house paint does not
stick to porch paint. Or, it sticks till it gets wet, which doen't
help with a boat, I guess.
And, or course, I didn't follow the first rule of painting, try the
paint on a small area first.
The good thing I guess is that it comes off with a little elbow
grease, and a lot of water from the water hose....
Bad thing, I have to repaint the whole boat!
stick to porch paint. Or, it sticks till it gets wet, which doen't
help with a boat, I guess.
And, or course, I didn't follow the first rule of painting, try the
paint on a small area first.
The good thing I guess is that it comes off with a little elbow
grease, and a lot of water from the water hose....
Bad thing, I have to repaint the whole boat!