[bolger] Re: Questions to Bolger
In a message dated 12/15/99 1:12:34 AM !!!First Boot!!!,ghartc@...
writes:
<< I agree; let's address the questions to the group at large and let him jump
in where the mood suits him, like the rest.
his talent and the simplicity of his designs, but could we please get back to
the discussion at hand, which is building our boats, modifications to
original plans, rigs, etc. I love hearing about alterations to existing
plans, others experiences with tools/materials, etc. Let's not get side
tracked people, please.
Andi
writes:
<< I agree; let's address the questions to the group at large and let him jump
in where the mood suits him, like the rest.
>>What's going on. I really appreciate that Mr. Bolger showed up. I respect
his talent and the simplicity of his designs, but could we please get back to
the discussion at hand, which is building our boats, modifications to
original plans, rigs, etc. I love hearing about alterations to existing
plans, others experiences with tools/materials, etc. Let's not get side
tracked people, please.
Andi
Hi Bruce:
I don't think you offended anyone. Actually, you asked some questions I
might have asked :).
The overall idea (after the collective intake of breath) was to make sure
Phil & friends felt comfortable here in an active role, and to allow them to
define their role, as they see fit.
Kudos to our moderator, Gregg "Hulls" Carlson for stating the overall goal.
As to your questions about the 15'work skiff: I bought these plans at the
same time I bought those of Windsprint. I decided to build the Windsprint
first, as I really wanted to see if I could build a boat that would actually
sail. When looking at the work skiff plans, the first thing I noticed was a
lack of permanent molds/bulkheads frames, compared to one of the skiffs
meant to be built in 1/4. Adding up all the plywood, this thing will be
HEAVY. Which is actually what I want to replace an aluminum boat that is
just too light for Tampa Bay. Based on looking at the plans, I think 3/8
(if you could get some good 3/8) would work; To use 1/4" you'd probably
want to add a more significant gunwale structure (just add another course of
gunwale, in and out). I'd probably keep the 1/2 or at least 3/8 in the
bottom (its layered). Never know where you'll find a rock.
Robert Lundy
St. Petersburg, Fla.
I don't think you offended anyone. Actually, you asked some questions I
might have asked :).
The overall idea (after the collective intake of breath) was to make sure
Phil & friends felt comfortable here in an active role, and to allow them to
define their role, as they see fit.
Kudos to our moderator, Gregg "Hulls" Carlson for stating the overall goal.
As to your questions about the 15'work skiff: I bought these plans at the
same time I bought those of Windsprint. I decided to build the Windsprint
first, as I really wanted to see if I could build a boat that would actually
sail. When looking at the work skiff plans, the first thing I noticed was a
lack of permanent molds/bulkheads frames, compared to one of the skiffs
meant to be built in 1/4. Adding up all the plywood, this thing will be
HEAVY. Which is actually what I want to replace an aluminum boat that is
just too light for Tampa Bay. Based on looking at the plans, I think 3/8
(if you could get some good 3/8) would work; To use 1/4" you'd probably
want to add a more significant gunwale structure (just add another course of
gunwale, in and out). I'd probably keep the 1/2 or at least 3/8 in the
bottom (its layered). Never know where you'll find a rock.
Robert Lundy
St. Petersburg, Fla.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bruce [mailto:bgbeck55@...]
> Sent: 14 December, 1999 7:34 PM
> To:bolger@...
> Subject: [bolger] Re: Questions to Bolger
>
>
> ghc <ghart-@...> wrote:
> original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/bolger/?start=1174
> > I agree; let's address the questions to the group at large and let
> him jump
> > in where the mood suits him, like the rest.
> >
> > Gregg Carlson
> >
>
> Sorry I offended so many.In future I'll address my questions to PCB
> with a pen and paper.
> Bruce
>
>
>
> >
> >> >
> > >Sticking my neck out here...
> > >
> > >I'd like to suggest we refrain from posting a bunch of questions to
> PCB&F
> > here or directly to his mail account. If he chooses to participate
> here,
> > let him dictate how he wants to do it. I'm sure that everyone here
> has lots
> > of questions they'd like to see answered, I know I do.
> > >
> > >But this forum has developed very nicely on its own with out PCB's
> > involvement. I'd hate to see that lost by dengenerating into an "Ask
> Phil"
> > list. If PCB&F choose to comment on our discussions, let's welcome
> him. But
> > we should also remember to treat him with respect as a Very Special
> Member
> > of this list. I fondly hope he will be an active participant here.
> Let's
> > not run him off by pestering him, though.
> > >
> > >Just my $0.02...
> > >
> > >John Bell
> > >Kennesaw, GA
> > >jmbell@...
> > >http://jmbell.home.mindspring.com
> > >
> > >
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ghc <ghart-@...> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/bolger/?start=1174
with a pen and paper.
Bruce
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/bolger/?start=1174
> I agree; let's address the questions to the group at large and lethim jump
> in where the mood suits him, like the rest.Sorry I offended so many.In future I'll address my questions to PCB
>
> Gregg Carlson
>
with a pen and paper.
Bruce
>PCB&F
>> >
> >Sticking my neck out here...
> >
> >I'd like to suggest we refrain from posting a bunch of questions to
> here or directly to his mail account. If he chooses to participatehere,
> let him dictate how he wants to do it. I'm sure that everyone herehas lots
> of questions they'd like to see answered, I know I do.Phil"
> >
> >But this forum has developed very nicely on its own with out PCB's
> involvement. I'd hate to see that lost by dengenerating into an "Ask
> list. If PCB&F choose to comment on our discussions, let's welcomehim. But
> we should also remember to treat him with respect as a Very SpecialMember
> of this list. I fondly hope he will be an active participant here.Let's
> not run him off by pestering him, though.
> >
> >Just my $0.02...
> >
> >John Bell
> >Kennesaw, GA
> >jmbell@...
> >http://jmbell.home.mindspring.com
> >
> >
Ditto! to John
I really enjoy the thoughtful (and not so thoughtful responses that go into
this forum. Its part of what this hobby (obsession?) is all about. And 99%
of the time I learn from others ideas, errors, etc, something completely
unrelated to the boat I'm building. Made up boats, solutions, modifications
etc and the like are one of the things that make this fun. With that said,
if PCB&F lurk or have announcements, or see the group on a completely bad,
destructive and unsafe chain of logic, by all means, set us straight. the
idea is to let them participate to the extent they can.
Previously, someone mentioned possibly the existence of a price list. Might
I suggest and upload to the vault? everyone can peruse this simple document.
Food for thought.
Robert Lundy
St. Petersburg Flas.
I really enjoy the thoughtful (and not so thoughtful responses that go into
this forum. Its part of what this hobby (obsession?) is all about. And 99%
of the time I learn from others ideas, errors, etc, something completely
unrelated to the boat I'm building. Made up boats, solutions, modifications
etc and the like are one of the things that make this fun. With that said,
if PCB&F lurk or have announcements, or see the group on a completely bad,
destructive and unsafe chain of logic, by all means, set us straight. the
idea is to let them participate to the extent they can.
Previously, someone mentioned possibly the existence of a price list. Might
I suggest and upload to the vault? everyone can peruse this simple document.
Food for thought.
Robert Lundy
St. Petersburg Flas.
> -----Original Message-----
> From:jmbell@...[mailto:jmbell@...]
> Sent: 14 December, 1999 5:06 PM
> To:bolger@egroups.com
> Subject: [bolger] Re: Questions to Bolger
>
>
>
>bolger@egroups.comwrote:
> > I would also like to welcome PCB to the group, and also
> my thanks for all the designs and enjoyable time spent reading
> his books and articles.
> Rather than flood Mr. Bolger with e-mail, why don't we post
> our questions here so all of us can enjoy and learn from him.
> I'll start things off.<<<<
>
> -------------Snipped a bunch of questions------------
>
> Sticking my neck out here...
>
> I'd like to suggest we refrain from posting a bunch of questions
> to PCB&F here or directly to his mail account. If he chooses to
> participate here, let him dictate how he wants to do it. I'm sure
> that everyone here has lots of questions they'd like to see
> answered, I know I do.
>
> But this forum has developed very nicely on its own with out
> PCB's involvement. I'd hate to see that lost by dengenerating
> into an "Ask Phil" list. If PCB&F choose to comment on our
> discussions, let's welcome him. But we should also remember to
> treat him with respect as a Very Special Member of this list. I
> fondly hope he will be an active participant here. Let's not run
> him off by pestering him, though.
>
> Just my $0.02...
>
> John Bell
> Kennesaw, GA
>jmbell@...
>http://jmbell.home.mindspring.com
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In a message dated 12/14/99 4:08:30 PM Central Standard Time,
jmbell@...writes:
<< But we should also remember to treat him with respect as a Very Special
Member of this list. I fondly hope he will be an active participant here.
Let's not run him off by pestering him, though. >>
I agree...drop in and out at will Phil....we'll be glad to have you and i for
one will not pester you at your "home" email address....thougth i will
cherish having it for sure.
We all greatly love "messing about" with your boats...once again we thank
you...
Larry Henry
jmbell@...writes:
<< But we should also remember to treat him with respect as a Very Special
Member of this list. I fondly hope he will be an active participant here.
Let's not run him off by pestering him, though. >>
I agree...drop in and out at will Phil....we'll be glad to have you and i for
one will not pester you at your "home" email address....thougth i will
cherish having it for sure.
We all greatly love "messing about" with your boats...once again we thank
you...
Larry Henry
I agree.
jmbell@... wrote:
bolger@egroups.com wrote:
> I would also like to welcome PCB to the group, and also
my thanks for all the designs and enjoyable time spent reading
his books and articles.
Rather than flood Mr. Bolger with e-mail, why don't we post
our questions here so all of us can enjoy and learn from him.
I'll start things off.<<<<
-------------Snipped a bunch of questions------------
Sticking my neck out here...
I'd like to suggest we refrain from posting a bunch of questions to PCB&F here or directly to his mail account. If he chooses to participate here, let him dictate how he wants to do it. I'm sure that everyone here has lots of questions they'd like to see answered, I know I do.
But this forum has developed very nicely on its own with out PCB's involvement. I'd hate to see that lost by dengenerating into an "Ask Phil" list. If PCB&F choose to comment on our discussions, let's welcome him. But we should also remember to treat him with respect as a Very Special Member of this list. I fondly hope he will be an active participant here. Let's not run him off by pestering him, though.
Just my $0.02...
John Bell
Kennesaw, GA
jmbell@...
http://jmbell.home.mindspring.com
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I agree; let's address the questions to the group at large and let him jump
in where the mood suits him, like the rest.
Gregg Carlson
At 05:06 PM 12/14/1999 -0500, you wrote:
let him dictate how he wants to do it. I'm sure that everyone here has lots
of questions they'd like to see answered, I know I do.
list. If PCB&F choose to comment on our discussions, let's welcome him. But
we should also remember to treat him with respect as a Very Special Member
of this list. I fondly hope he will be an active participant here. Let's
not run him off by pestering him, though.
in where the mood suits him, like the rest.
Gregg Carlson
At 05:06 PM 12/14/1999 -0500, you wrote:
>here or directly to his mail account. If he chooses to participate here,
>bolger@egroups.comwrote:
>> I would also like to welcome PCB to the group, and also
>my thanks for all the designs and enjoyable time spent reading
>his books and articles.
> Rather than flood Mr. Bolger with e-mail, why don't we post
>our questions here so all of us can enjoy and learn from him.
>I'll start things off.<<<<
>
>-------------Snipped a bunch of questions------------
>
>Sticking my neck out here...
>
>I'd like to suggest we refrain from posting a bunch of questions to PCB&F
let him dictate how he wants to do it. I'm sure that everyone here has lots
of questions they'd like to see answered, I know I do.
>involvement. I'd hate to see that lost by dengenerating into an "Ask Phil"
>But this forum has developed very nicely on its own with out PCB's
list. If PCB&F choose to comment on our discussions, let's welcome him. But
we should also remember to treat him with respect as a Very Special Member
of this list. I fondly hope he will be an active participant here. Let's
not run him off by pestering him, though.
>
>Just my $0.02...
>
>John Bell
>Kennesaw, GA
>jmbell@...
>http://jmbell.home.mindspring.com
>
>
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>Accurate impartial advice on everything from laptops to tablesaws.
>http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/1701
>
>
>
>-- Check out your group's private Chat room
>--http://www.egroups.com/ChatPage?listName=bolger&m=1
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>
>
bolger@egroups.comwrote:
his books and articles.
Rather than flood Mr. Bolger with e-mail, why don't we post
our questions here so all of us can enjoy and learn from him.
I'll start things off.<<<<
-------------Snipped a bunch of questions------------
Sticking my neck out here...
I'd like to suggest we refrain from posting a bunch of questions to PCB&F here or directly to his mail account. If he chooses to participate here, let him dictate how he wants to do it. I'm sure that everyone here has lots of questions they'd like to see answered, I know I do.
But this forum has developed very nicely on its own with out PCB's involvement. I'd hate to see that lost by dengenerating into an "Ask Phil" list. If PCB&F choose to comment on our discussions, let's welcome him. But we should also remember to treat him with respect as a Very Special Member of this list. I fondly hope he will be an active participant here. Let's not run him off by pestering him, though.
Just my $0.02...
John Bell
Kennesaw, GA
jmbell@...
http://jmbell.home.mindspring.com
> I would also like to welcome PCB to the group, and alsomy thanks for all the designs and enjoyable time spent reading
his books and articles.
Rather than flood Mr. Bolger with e-mail, why don't we post
our questions here so all of us can enjoy and learn from him.
I'll start things off.<<<<
-------------Snipped a bunch of questions------------
Sticking my neck out here...
I'd like to suggest we refrain from posting a bunch of questions to PCB&F here or directly to his mail account. If he chooses to participate here, let him dictate how he wants to do it. I'm sure that everyone here has lots of questions they'd like to see answered, I know I do.
But this forum has developed very nicely on its own with out PCB's involvement. I'd hate to see that lost by dengenerating into an "Ask Phil" list. If PCB&F choose to comment on our discussions, let's welcome him. But we should also remember to treat him with respect as a Very Special Member of this list. I fondly hope he will be an active participant here. Let's not run him off by pestering him, though.
Just my $0.02...
John Bell
Kennesaw, GA
jmbell@...
http://jmbell.home.mindspring.com