Re: [bolger] Re: ...conflicted

If you're going to glass, do it before turning over (after removing the ties) and filling the seams
on the inside will be very easy and you can use epoxy which is not as thick, and will better flow
into small voids etc. Clyde

"Jack E. Bearden" wrote:

> Zip ties should work very well for Gypsy. As you probably know, leave them
> loose until you have them all in place. Get everything lined up then pull
> them snug. If you space them @ 3" intervals you can fillet between them very
> neatly with a 3" putty knife. The ties will come out very easily later.
> Masking tape the seams before you flip it over to prevent lumps on the
> outside. Good luck
>
> jeb
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I managed to follow Mr. Payson's tack instructions until I layed the
bilge panels on. That's when I discovered just how inacurate my
sawing skills were so I resorted to the zip ties. It made it a lot
easier to line the panels up and drew them a little closer to each
other as well. As far as flipping the boat, I decided to go ahead
and glue the bottom together so I could flip it without fear. It's
my first boat so I'll tend to be cautious.

I wish you luck on your irrigation project. Myself, I'm taking
Friday off to work on the boat.

Roger S

--- In bolger@y..., "Larry Barker" <lgbarker@i...> wrote:
> Zip ties worked well for me when I built my Nymph. I failed
miserably with
> Payson's tack method and his additional suggestion of using a hot
glue gun
> resulted in the Magically Disassembling Nymph. Zip ties were solid
and
> allowed easy hull alignment before they were tightened.
>
> One difference from Jack - I didn't take them out. One of the
best things
> about them is that they were soft and sanded away like nothing
after the
> epoxy hardened.
>
> I didn't think of turning the boat before applying the epoxy but it
sounds
> like a great idea and the zips should hold it just fine.
>
> Larry
> Who cannot play with boats of any sort until that @#(!
irrigation system
> is up and running.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jack E. Bearden" <jalo@i...>
> To: <bolger@y...>
> Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 1:39 AM
> Subject: [bolger] Re: ...conflicted
>
>
> > Zip ties should work very well for Gypsy. As you probably know,
leave them
> > loose until you have them all in place. Get everything lined up
then pull
> > them snug. If you space them @ 3" intervals you can fillet
between them
> very
> > neatly with a 3" putty knife. The ties will come out very easily
later.
> > Masking tape the seams before you flip it over to prevent lumps
on the
> > outside. Good luck
Zip ties worked well for me when I built my Nymph. I failed miserably with
Payson's tack method and his additional suggestion of using a hot glue gun
resulted in the Magically Disassembling Nymph. Zip ties were solid and
allowed easy hull alignment before they were tightened.

One difference from Jack - I didn't take them out. One of the best things
about them is that they were soft and sanded away like nothing after the
epoxy hardened.

I didn't think of turning the boat before applying the epoxy but it sounds
like a great idea and the zips should hold it just fine.

Larry
Who cannot play with boats of any sort until that @#(! irrigation system
is up and running.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack E. Bearden" <jalo@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 1:39 AM
Subject: [bolger] Re: ...conflicted


> Zip ties should work very well for Gypsy. As you probably know, leave them
> loose until you have them all in place. Get everything lined up then pull
> them snug. If you space them @ 3" intervals you can fillet between them
very
> neatly with a 3" putty knife. The ties will come out very easily later.
> Masking tape the seams before you flip it over to prevent lumps on the
> outside. Good luck
In a message dated 05/10/2001 8:<BR54:<BR43 AM
Eastern Daylight ,jalo@...writes:> As you probably know, leave them
> loose until you have them all in place. Get everything lined up then pull
> them snug.


This is imortant. On our Toto, son Bryce and I used wire and we didn't go
back and re-adjust the ties after getting them all in. The chines showed
waves which required cutting the joints with a fine saw and re-epoxying.
There are still ripples in the chines. At the time, I didn't know about wire
ties and didn't think of it myself.

Cheers/Don
Zip ties should work very well for Gypsy. As you probably know, leave them
loose until you have them all in place. Get everything lined up then pull
them snug. If you space them @ 3" intervals you can fillet between them very
neatly with a 3" putty knife. The ties will come out very easily later.
Masking tape the seams before you flip it over to prevent lumps on the
outside. Good luck

jeb