Re: building micro
(Still gathering lead, saving for
In your quest to gather lead, please calculate in the cost of
gasoline and wear and tear on your auto. I found that purchasing lead
from the foundry was cheaper than salvaging scraps.
David Jost
> plywood, building tillers, spars etcCol,
In your quest to gather lead, please calculate in the cost of
gasoline and wear and tear on your auto. I found that purchasing lead
from the foundry was cheaper than salvaging scraps.
David Jost
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Dave and Peter,
Thanks for the advice, I'm a long way off this yet
but it pays to think ahead. (Still gathering lead, saving for
plywood, building tillers, spars etc) My house is raised and has
huge steel beams holding it up that I can throw a chain around, under
the house is all concreted, so my situation would lend itself to
lowering the keel onto the boat.
Regards,
Col
-- In bolger@y..., djost@m... wrote:
Dave and Peter,
Thanks for the advice, I'm a long way off this yet
but it pays to think ahead. (Still gathering lead, saving for
plywood, building tillers, spars etc) My house is raised and has
huge steel beams holding it up that I can throw a chain around, under
the house is all concreted, so my situation would lend itself to
lowering the keel onto the boat.
Regards,
Col
-- In bolger@y..., djost@m... wrote:
> Col,for
> After spending many hours under Firefly, I have just updated my
> web page on this subject. Go check it out.
>http://www.ultranet.com/~djost
>
> If you have a lot of friends to help you right the boat, do the
> whole operation upside down. Your back, and head will thank you
> it, and the process will be much quicker.her
>
> David Jost
>
>
>
> --- In bolger@y..., colcath@o... wrote:
> >
> >
> > Apologies if this has been discussed before, but what are the
> > drawbacks of completely finishing Micros bottom before turning
> > right way up? It would make it much easier forthere
> > sheathing/glassing/etc, could even do the painting maybe. I know
> most
> > seem to install the keel with the boat upright, and I'm sure
> isother
> > a valid reason for this, but apparently it has been done the
> > way by other builders judging by the early newsletters.Installing
> > right way up is to presumably avoid turning the boat with allthat
> > weight up high. The newsletter said to brace the boat from
> > underneath to support the weight, but didn't go into the turning
> > process. Maybe drill a couple of holes through the keel, ropes
> > pulleys etc, gently lay her on her side, lots of helpers, then
> stand
> > her up. Any fatal reasons for not doing this?
> >
> > Col
Peter,
I have just spent another hour and a half under the Micro "Firefly"
she is looking great, but I keep whacking my head on things, and
getting stuck between the boat and the cradle. I am not a man of
small proportions.
I would suggest any other builder to move the hull between a
couple of sturdy oaks (thinking Northeast here) and construct a block
and tackle to raise the lead above the boat and lower it into the
stern sheathing panel. Then complete the assembly.
The scars from last weeks battle have healed on my head, and I am
just about ready to glass the keel assembly. Memorial Day?
David Jost
"anxiously awaiting the return of a vertical environment"
I have just spent another hour and a half under the Micro "Firefly"
she is looking great, but I keep whacking my head on things, and
getting stuck between the boat and the cradle. I am not a man of
small proportions.
I would suggest any other builder to move the hull between a
couple of sturdy oaks (thinking Northeast here) and construct a block
and tackle to raise the lead above the boat and lower it into the
stern sheathing panel. Then complete the assembly.
The scars from last weeks battle have healed on my head, and I am
just about ready to glass the keel assembly. Memorial Day?
David Jost
"anxiously awaiting the return of a vertical environment"
> postion then to do so with 420+ pounds of skinny lead from the top.make
> Hopefully,others will chime in with helpful suggestions to
> your building experience as safe and easy as possible.her
> Best of luck with your MICRO,
> Sincerely,
> Peter Lenihan,fevered Micro owner/builder...........
>
>
>
> --- In bolger@y..., colcath@o... wrote:
> >
> >
> > Apologies if this has been discussed before, but what are the
> > drawbacks of completely finishing Micros bottom before turning
> > right way up? It would make it much easier forthere
> > sheathing/glassing/etc, could even do the painting maybe. I know
> most
> > seem to install the keel with the boat upright, and I'm sure
> isother
> > a valid reason for this, but apparently it has been done the
> > way by other builders judging by the early newsletters.Installing
> > right way up is to presumably avoid turning the boat with allthat
> > weight up high. The newsletter said to brace the boat fromstand
> > underneath to support the weight, but didn't go into the turning
> > process. Maybe drill a couple of holes through the keel, ropes
> > pulleys etc, gently lay her on her side, lots of helpers, then
> > her up. Any fatal reasons for not doing this?
> >
> > Col
Col,
After spending many hours under Firefly, I have just updated my
web page on this subject. Go check it out.
http://www.ultranet.com/~djost
If you have a lot of friends to help you right the boat, do the
whole operation upside down. Your back, and head will thank you for
it, and the process will be much quicker.
David Jost
After spending many hours under Firefly, I have just updated my
web page on this subject. Go check it out.
http://www.ultranet.com/~djost
If you have a lot of friends to help you right the boat, do the
whole operation upside down. Your back, and head will thank you for
it, and the process will be much quicker.
David Jost
--- In bolger@y..., colcath@o... wrote:
>
>
> Apologies if this has been discussed before, but what are the
> drawbacks of completely finishing Micros bottom before turning her
> right way up? It would make it much easier for
> sheathing/glassing/etc, could even do the painting maybe. I know
most
> seem to install the keel with the boat upright, and I'm sure there
is
> a valid reason for this, but apparently it has been done the other
> way by other builders judging by the early newsletters. Installing
> right way up is to presumably avoid turning the boat with all that
> weight up high. The newsletter said to brace the boat from
> underneath to support the weight, but didn't go into the turning
> process. Maybe drill a couple of holes through the keel, ropes
> pulleys etc, gently lay her on her side, lots of helpers, then
stand
> her up. Any fatal reasons for not doing this?
>
> Col
Hi Collin,
Based solely on my own experience with my MICRO,I found it most
advantageous to do all the glassing/sheathing with the hull
inverted.As you know,I hung my keel only after the hull was right-side
up and used a different approach then outlined in the plans for the
entire keel assembly.
Although I encountered very few difficulties doing it the way I
did,I was grateful not to have to"manhandle"that chunk of lead too
often,nor to raise it too high.
To a large extent,your building site may determine the best method
for you.That is,if you have secure overhead attachment points for a
chain-block or block and tackle,then installing the keel while the
boat is inverted and later turning the hull right-side up may not
create much hazard for you.However,I would be concerned about any
undue lateral stresses to your keel assembly from the slings while
turning the boat over to upright.
So,to sum things up;try to avoid making things any more difficult
then they may already be,it is easier to block and raise the hull up
higher(so that you can comfortably work underneath) to a stable /safe
postion then to do so with 420+ pounds of skinny lead from the top.
Hopefully,others will chime in with helpful suggestions to make
your building experience as safe and easy as possible.
Best of luck with your MICRO,
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,fevered Micro owner/builder...........
Based solely on my own experience with my MICRO,I found it most
advantageous to do all the glassing/sheathing with the hull
inverted.As you know,I hung my keel only after the hull was right-side
up and used a different approach then outlined in the plans for the
entire keel assembly.
Although I encountered very few difficulties doing it the way I
did,I was grateful not to have to"manhandle"that chunk of lead too
often,nor to raise it too high.
To a large extent,your building site may determine the best method
for you.That is,if you have secure overhead attachment points for a
chain-block or block and tackle,then installing the keel while the
boat is inverted and later turning the hull right-side up may not
create much hazard for you.However,I would be concerned about any
undue lateral stresses to your keel assembly from the slings while
turning the boat over to upright.
So,to sum things up;try to avoid making things any more difficult
then they may already be,it is easier to block and raise the hull up
higher(so that you can comfortably work underneath) to a stable /safe
postion then to do so with 420+ pounds of skinny lead from the top.
Hopefully,others will chime in with helpful suggestions to make
your building experience as safe and easy as possible.
Best of luck with your MICRO,
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,fevered Micro owner/builder...........
--- In bolger@y..., colcath@o... wrote:
>
>
> Apologies if this has been discussed before, but what are the
> drawbacks of completely finishing Micros bottom before turning her
> right way up? It would make it much easier for
> sheathing/glassing/etc, could even do the painting maybe. I know
most
> seem to install the keel with the boat upright, and I'm sure there
is
> a valid reason for this, but apparently it has been done the other
> way by other builders judging by the early newsletters. Installing
> right way up is to presumably avoid turning the boat with all that
> weight up high. The newsletter said to brace the boat from
> underneath to support the weight, but didn't go into the turning
> process. Maybe drill a couple of holes through the keel, ropes
> pulleys etc, gently lay her on her side, lots of helpers, then stand
> her up. Any fatal reasons for not doing this?
>
> Col
Apologies if this has been discussed before, but what are the
drawbacks of completely finishing Micros bottom before turning her
right way up? It would make it much easier for
sheathing/glassing/etc, could even do the painting maybe. I know most
seem to install the keel with the boat upright, and I'm sure there is
a valid reason for this, but apparently it has been done the other
way by other builders judging by the early newsletters. Installing
right way up is to presumably avoid turning the boat with all that
weight up high. The newsletter said to brace the boat from
underneath to support the weight, but didn't go into the turning
process. Maybe drill a couple of holes through the keel, ropes
pulleys etc, gently lay her on her side, lots of helpers, then stand
her up. Any fatal reasons for not doing this?
Col
drawbacks of completely finishing Micros bottom before turning her
right way up? It would make it much easier for
sheathing/glassing/etc, could even do the painting maybe. I know most
seem to install the keel with the boat upright, and I'm sure there is
a valid reason for this, but apparently it has been done the other
way by other builders judging by the early newsletters. Installing
right way up is to presumably avoid turning the boat with all that
weight up high. The newsletter said to brace the boat from
underneath to support the weight, but didn't go into the turning
process. Maybe drill a couple of holes through the keel, ropes
pulleys etc, gently lay her on her side, lots of helpers, then stand
her up. Any fatal reasons for not doing this?
Col