[bolger] Re: Bolger&Friends thanks for the reception
To All:
It's nice to see that Phil has graced us with some attention. I have
corresponded with him on a couple of occasions over the years,
and he has been consistently kind and helpful with this often
wayward student. It saddens me a little to learn that he is building
a house. Was it Francis Herreshoff who described a house as but a
poorly built boat with its keel hard aground? Also, having build my
own house, I can assure Phil that that old saw about being 90%
done with only 50% left to go applies to house construction as well
as boat building....
david
phil bolger wrote:
It's nice to see that Phil has graced us with some attention. I have
corresponded with him on a couple of occasions over the years,
and he has been consistently kind and helpful with this often
wayward student. It saddens me a little to learn that he is building
a house. Was it Francis Herreshoff who described a house as but a
poorly built boat with its keel hard aground? Also, having build my
own house, I can assure Phil that that old saw about being 90%
done with only 50% left to go applies to house construction as well
as boat building....
david
phil bolger wrote:
> The rumor that Ms. Altenburger has me stuffed at one side of the
> drawing board is exagerated. But there has been a gradual change of
> style in the designing as well as some of the correspondence, because
> everything we've done in the past five years has been a joint effort.
> Nothing goes out on which we both haven't had a say. The engineering
> can be seen to be a lot more sophisticated than it was five years ago.
> The effort to make decent boats that don't take heroic perseverance to
> realize is still the object of the exercise. Should some perform above
> average the better.
>
> We don't plan to intrude on these discussions much. They seem to go on
> very well without us.
>
> Mail and fax are usually answered as we like printed stuff for the
> letter file and thus hard uncrashable memory. And all sneering about
> snail mail aside, it's the best for privacy and not often the main
> source of lost motion; wrestling with those pesky cookies is bad
> enough. On the other hand, inquisitive souls won't go far anyway on
> this hard-drive as the free-standing phone-booth is just that.
>
> We've had a web site on our minds for a long time and eventually we'll
> get it organized - now that our recent move has been concluded and the
> house 90+% finished. In the meantime, we have something in every issue
> of MESSING ABOUT IN BOATS; haven't missed one every 2 weeks in upwards
> of 200 issues since the SMALL BOAT JOURNAL's owners finally lost
> patience.
>
> We're all for creativity and playing with designs. You should see what
> we've done to our RESOLUTION! But we wish some people wouldn't push
> their luck quite so hard, like the builder who put his heart's blood
> into a JESSIE COOPER with changes that seemed to fit what he understood
> some textbook to approve. By the time he asked us why she didn't sail
> or handle respectably, there was no way to fix her short of desperate
> surgery. AS 29s aren't likely to perform very well with two-masted
> Chinese lug rigs either, and leeboards and tabernacles don't often work
> as afterthoughts, though they're both valuable to put it mildly in a
> boat designed for them from square one. Merry mixing and matching of
> design-attributes or dimensions from here and there for something else
> can have its hazards. On the other hand it's hard to really hurt
> yourself physically in boats.
>
> Back to work...
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I have changed the June Bug design to fit my own opinion of aesthetics,
and am having great fun doing it -- changing those things that, in my
opinion, will not appreciably hurt performance, and only costing me $20
for the extra sheet of ply. I also know that if it doesn't work well,
I have only myself to blame. The boat is just a small plywood boat, so
there are few resources risked.
Previously I posed the question, "When is a Bolger not a Bolger?" That
is, when should the design no longer be attributed to Mr. Bolger,
thereby saving the designer some professional embarrassment. I have
come to the conclusion that I can no longer call my boat an "instant
boat" because of the added complexity (added fun), but must call the
boat a "modified June Bug." "Modified" to protect Mr. Bolger's
reputation -- and avoiding naming who modified to protect mine. :)
Phil Lea
"phil bolger" wrote:
original article: 1185
[snip]
and am having great fun doing it -- changing those things that, in my
opinion, will not appreciably hurt performance, and only costing me $20
for the extra sheet of ply. I also know that if it doesn't work well,
I have only myself to blame. The boat is just a small plywood boat, so
there are few resources risked.
Previously I posed the question, "When is a Bolger not a Bolger?" That
is, when should the design no longer be attributed to Mr. Bolger,
thereby saving the designer some professional embarrassment. I have
come to the conclusion that I can no longer call my boat an "instant
boat" because of the added complexity (added fun), but must call the
boat a "modified June Bug." "Modified" to protect Mr. Bolger's
reputation -- and avoiding naming who modified to protect mine. :)
Phil Lea
"phil bolger" wrote:
original article: 1185
[snip]
> We're all for creativity and playing with designs. You should seewhat
> we've done to our RESOLUTION! But we wish some people wouldn't pushunderstood
> their luck quite so hard, like the builder who put his heart's blood
> into a JESSIE COOPER with changes that seemed to fit what he
> some textbook to approve. By the time he asked us why she didn't sailwork
> or handle respectably, there was no way to fix her short of desperate
> surgery. AS 29s aren't likely to perform very well with two-masted
> Chinese lug rigs either, and leeboards and tabernacles don't often
> as afterthoughts, though they're both valuable to put it mildly in a
> boat designed for them from square one. Merry mixing and matching of
> design-attributes or dimensions from here and there for something else
> can have its hazards. On the other hand it's hard to really hurt
> yourself physically in boats.
>
The rumor that Ms. Altenburger has me stuffed at one side of the
drawing board is exagerated. But there has been a gradual change of
style in the designing as well as some of the correspondence, because
everything we've done in the past five years has been a joint effort.
Nothing goes out on which we both haven't had a say. The engineering
can be seen to be a lot more sophisticated than it was five years ago.
The effort to make decent boats that don't take heroic perseverance to
realize is still the object of the exercise. Should some perform above
average the better.
We don't plan to intrude on these discussions much. They seem to go on
very well without us.
Mail and fax are usually answered as we like printed stuff for the
letter file and thus hard uncrashable memory. And all sneering about
snail mail aside, it's the best for privacy and not often the main
source of lost motion; wrestling with those pesky cookies is bad
enough. On the other hand, inquisitive souls won't go far anyway on
this hard-drive as the free-standing phone-booth is just that.
We've had a web site on our minds for a long time and eventually we'll
get it organized - now that our recent move has been concluded and the
house 90+% finished. In the meantime, we have something in every issue
of MESSING ABOUT IN BOATS; haven't missed one every 2 weeks in upwards
of 200 issues since the SMALL BOAT JOURNAL's owners finally lost
patience.
We're all for creativity and playing with designs. You should see what
we've done to our RESOLUTION! But we wish some people wouldn't push
their luck quite so hard, like the builder who put his heart's blood
into a JESSIE COOPER with changes that seemed to fit what he understood
some textbook to approve. By the time he asked us why she didn't sail
or handle respectably, there was no way to fix her short of desperate
surgery. AS 29s aren't likely to perform very well with two-masted
Chinese lug rigs either, and leeboards and tabernacles don't often work
as afterthoughts, though they're both valuable to put it mildly in a
boat designed for them from square one. Merry mixing and matching of
design-attributes or dimensions from here and there for something else
can have its hazards. On the other hand it's hard to really hurt
yourself physically in boats.
Back to work...
drawing board is exagerated. But there has been a gradual change of
style in the designing as well as some of the correspondence, because
everything we've done in the past five years has been a joint effort.
Nothing goes out on which we both haven't had a say. The engineering
can be seen to be a lot more sophisticated than it was five years ago.
The effort to make decent boats that don't take heroic perseverance to
realize is still the object of the exercise. Should some perform above
average the better.
We don't plan to intrude on these discussions much. They seem to go on
very well without us.
Mail and fax are usually answered as we like printed stuff for the
letter file and thus hard uncrashable memory. And all sneering about
snail mail aside, it's the best for privacy and not often the main
source of lost motion; wrestling with those pesky cookies is bad
enough. On the other hand, inquisitive souls won't go far anyway on
this hard-drive as the free-standing phone-booth is just that.
We've had a web site on our minds for a long time and eventually we'll
get it organized - now that our recent move has been concluded and the
house 90+% finished. In the meantime, we have something in every issue
of MESSING ABOUT IN BOATS; haven't missed one every 2 weeks in upwards
of 200 issues since the SMALL BOAT JOURNAL's owners finally lost
patience.
We're all for creativity and playing with designs. You should see what
we've done to our RESOLUTION! But we wish some people wouldn't push
their luck quite so hard, like the builder who put his heart's blood
into a JESSIE COOPER with changes that seemed to fit what he understood
some textbook to approve. By the time he asked us why she didn't sail
or handle respectably, there was no way to fix her short of desperate
surgery. AS 29s aren't likely to perform very well with two-masted
Chinese lug rigs either, and leeboards and tabernacles don't often work
as afterthoughts, though they're both valuable to put it mildly in a
boat designed for them from square one. Merry mixing and matching of
design-attributes or dimensions from here and there for something else
can have its hazards. On the other hand it's hard to really hurt
yourself physically in boats.
Back to work...