[bolger] Re: Pippo, get on with it!

I like the Web sight and the Q&A bits, printed them out to read later when I
had time.Much food for thought down here at 40 degrees south please keep it
up.

Broke as always JB
----- Original Message -----
From: Don <oink@...>
To: <bolger@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 9:33 PM
Subject: [bolger] Pippo, get on with it!


> Dear Pippo,
>
> I have endured your endless Micro questions and not commented at all,
> but really, your last query squeezes a response. When you asked if,
> having lofted the starboard side, should you then re-loft the port one?
> Well, I know not all Bolger boats are symmetrical, but Micro is. Can
> you not imagine clamps and pencils?
>
> Please dear Pippo, throw away your pc and just get on and build the
> bloody thing!!!!!
>
> Love and kisses,
>
> Don
>
>
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> I have endured your endless Micro questions and not commented at all,
> but really, your last query squeezes a response. When you asked if,
> having lofted the starboard side, should you then re-loft the port
one?
> Well, I know not all Bolger boats are symmetrical, but Micro is.
Can
> you not imagine clamps and pencils?
>
> Please dear Pippo, throw away your pc and just get on and build the
> bloody thing!!!!!
>
> Love and kisses,
>
> Don
>
Dear Pippo,
Don't pay any attention to "Don". He's obviously forgotten that
at
one time he too was a beginner. If you don't know what it is you're
doing; ask. At the current price of plywood and epoxy, it is too
expensive to make
mistakes that can be avoided simply by asking some one first. Most of
the
books suggest laying the material for the sides together and then
cutting
them at the same time. This is practical as long as the size of the
material
isn't too unwieldy.
If you don't already have one, you might get a copy of "Instant
Boats"
by Harold Payson. He covers such things in that book, and is
entertaining
as well.
Best of luck.
Bruce
When I cut out the sides for my AF2, I used FRP butt joints to make a 24ft panel, layed both sides out on the floor on some 2x4's, and cut them both at the same time to make them identical.

"Giuseppe 'Pippo' Bianco (work)" wrote:

Don - thanks for the encouragement.
Apparently though the answer to my last question is not trivial as you
think, even looking at the answers. Probably I'm too perfectionist, but
the question is obviously not about how to use a cut panel as a pattern
to duplicate it. I've done it already and, believe me, it does NOT work
that well if extra precautions are not taken. The problem would,
obviously again, be different if I could have used two butted panels at
a time, but I can't...
I also hope that my endless questions on Micro (I guess they've been 5
or 6 since the beginning) are not bothering you and the rest of the
list too much, otherwise just let me know...
Thanks again

Pippo

"don" <oin-@...> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/bolger/?start=1194
> Dear Pippo,
>
> I have endured your endless Micro questions and not commented at all,
> but really, your last query squeezes a response.  When you asked if,
> having lofted the starboard side, should you then re-loft the port
one?
>   Well, I know not all Bolger boats are symmetrical, but Micro is.
Can
> you not imagine clamps and pencils?
>
> Please dear Pippo, throw away your pc and just get on and build the
> bloody thing!!!!!
>
> Love and kisses,
>
> Don
>

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Pippo,

Before you cut the first side, you could stack them up and drill 1 or 2 mm
holes through both.

Keep up the good work and impress your wife and bebby. I build
quick-and-dirty for the lake, but I don't take them down to the Gulf on
Mexico. I just imagine the conversation.."well, umm, yeah, honey - whoops,
grab that 2 by 4 and hold on to it - they said not to use luan and elmer's
glue, but you know - just keep treading water and relax - it's awful cheap
that way, and, uh - ouch! those jellyfish just sting a little - anyway, I
was trying to save a little for shoes for the baby, and those guys on the
list are such know-it-alls, and uh..."

Gregg Carlson


>Thanks guys, but a few lines remain to be redrawn from scratch anyway:
>for the Micro, the line referred to as "top of moulding" is critical,
>and also the "top of antifouling" line should be relofted as well, and
>also the afterdeck horizontal line must be drawn. So, all taken into
>account, I wonder if there is a real difference in time; there is
>though a difference in precision, and this seems to suggest to reloft
>everything (1 hour per half panel)...
>I did the mirror copy with my first boat, and even taking all possible
>precautions, I missed 5 mm somewhere that I still cannot understand...
>Thanks again
>
>Pippo
>
>henryclan-@...wrote:
>original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/bolger/?start=1200
>> In a message dated 12/15/99 6:23:20 AM Central Standard Time,
>bianco@...
>> writes:
>>
>> << Apparently though the answer to my last question is not trivial as
>you
>> think, even looking at the answers. Probably I'm too perfectionist,
>>>
>>
>> Draw one on one sheet, lay it on another, tack corners, & cut the
>lines
>> making 2 mirror copies, that's what i did with Brick...
>> Larry
>
>
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Thanks guys, but a few lines remain to be redrawn from scratch anyway:
for the Micro, the line referred to as "top of moulding" is critical,
and also the "top of antifouling" line should be relofted as well, and
also the afterdeck horizontal line must be drawn. So, all taken into
account, I wonder if there is a real difference in time; there is
though a difference in precision, and this seems to suggest to reloft
everything (1 hour per half panel)...
I did the mirror copy with my first boat, and even taking all possible
precautions, I missed 5 mm somewhere that I still cannot understand...
Thanks again

Pippo

henryclan-@...wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/bolger/?start=1200
> In a message dated 12/15/99 6:23:20 AM Central Standard Time,
bianco@...
> writes:
>
> << Apparently though the answer to my last question is not trivial as
you
> think, even looking at the answers. Probably I'm too perfectionist,
>>
>
> Draw one on one sheet, lay it on another, tack corners, & cut the
lines
> making 2 mirror copies, that's what i did with Brick...
> Larry
In a message dated 12/15/99 6:23:20 AM Central Standard Time,bianco@...
writes:

<< Apparently though the answer to my last question is not trivial as you
think, even looking at the answers. Probably I'm too perfectionist, >>

Draw one on one sheet, lay it on another, tack corners, & cut the lines
making 2 mirror copies, that's what i did with Brick...
Larry
Don - thanks for the encouragement.
Apparently though the answer to my last question is not trivial as you
think, even looking at the answers. Probably I'm too perfectionist, but
the question is obviously not about how to use a cut panel as a pattern
to duplicate it. I've done it already and, believe me, it does NOT work
that well if extra precautions are not taken. The problem would,
obviously again, be different if I could have used two butted panels at
a time, but I can't...
I also hope that my endless questions on Micro (I guess they've been 5
or 6 since the beginning) are not bothering you and the rest of the
list too much, otherwise just let me know...
Thanks again

Pippo

"don" <oin-@...> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/bolger/?start=1194
> Dear Pippo,
>
> I have endured your endless Micro questions and not commented at all,
> but really, your last query squeezes a response. When you asked if,
> having lofted the starboard side, should you then re-loft the port
one?
> Well, I know not all Bolger boats are symmetrical, but Micro is.
Can
> you not imagine clamps and pencils?
>
> Please dear Pippo, throw away your pc and just get on and build the
> bloody thing!!!!!
>
> Love and kisses,
>
> Don
>
----- Original Message -----
From: Don <oink@...>
To: <bolger@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 5:33 AM
Subject: [bolger] Pippo, get on with it!


> Dear Pippo,
>
> I have endured your endless Micro questions and not commented at all,
> but really, your last query squeezes a response. When you asked if,
> having lofted the starboard side, should you then re-loft the port one?
> Well, I know not all Bolger boats are symmetrical, but Micro is. Can
> you not imagine clamps and pencils?
>
> Please dear Pippo, throw away your pc and just get on and build the
> bloody thing!!!!!
>
> Love and kisses,
>
> Don
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Get 75% Off Our Best Selling Health and Wellness Books!
> SelfCare.com has everything you need to take care of you and your family,
> plus spend $40 or more and your shipping is free!
>http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/1824
>
>
>
> eGroups.com Home:http://www.egroups.com/group/bolger/
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>
Dear Pippo,

I have endured your endless Micro questions and not commented at all,
but really, your last query squeezes a response. When you asked if,
having lofted the starboard side, should you then re-loft the port one?
Well, I know not all Bolger boats are symmetrical, but Micro is. Can
you not imagine clamps and pencils?

Please dear Pippo, throw away your pc and just get on and build the
bloody thing!!!!!

Love and kisses,

Don