Re: [bolger] Edey & Duff Stonehorse
Not too far off topic, PCB did a sequel called Stone Camel but I don't think it was ever built. Clyde
kayaker37@...wrote:
kayaker37@...wrote:
> I know its not a Bolger design, but does anyone have any good links
> (pics or drawings) to a Stone Horse site? I've seen a couple of small
> pics and found one for sale at
>
>http://www.classicyachts.com/brk_stonehorse.htm
>
> but this is probably the best pic I've found, which is just so small.
>
> Thanks,
> Paul
>
> Bolger rules!!!
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Thanks Larry for the Stone Horse info, and to John Bell for the Stone
Camel info. It's amazing how much PB has designed. Not that I'll get
one any time soon, but always on the lookout for the nex one :)
Of course if I hit lotto ...
Thanks,
Paul
Camel info. It's amazing how much PB has designed. Not that I'll get
one any time soon, but always on the lookout for the nex one :)
Of course if I hit lotto ...
Thanks,
Paul
--- In bolger@y..., lgbarker@i... wrote:
> Paul,
> I've scanned a couple of pages from the Stone Horse brochure and
> posted it to my web site -- since it's not Bolger I didn't think I
> should use our disk space. I'll keep the pictures up for a couple
of
> weeks.
>
> They're at:
>http://home.internetcds.com/~lgbarker/Stonehorse/
>
> I've always liked the boat but it didn't fit our location or family
> size.
> Larry
>
Paul,
I've scanned a couple of pages from the Stone Horse brochure and
posted it to my web site -- since it's not Bolger I didn't think I
should use our disk space. I'll keep the pictures up for a couple of
weeks.
They're at:
http://home.internetcds.com/~lgbarker/Stonehorse/
I've always liked the boat but it didn't fit our location or family
size.
Larry
I've scanned a couple of pages from the Stone Horse brochure and
posted it to my web site -- since it's not Bolger I didn't think I
should use our disk space. I'll keep the pictures up for a couple of
weeks.
They're at:
http://home.internetcds.com/~lgbarker/Stonehorse/
I've always liked the boat but it didn't fit our location or family
size.
Larry
--- In bolger@y..., kayaker37@h... wrote:
> I know its not a Bolger design, but does anyone have any good links
> (pics or drawings) to a Stone Horse site? I've seen a couple of
small
> pics and found one for sale at
>
>http://www.classicyachts.com/brk_stonehorse.htm
>
>
> but this is probably the best pic I've found, which is just so
small.
>
> Thanks,
> Paul
When someone asks about a Bolger boat for which home-building plans
are not available, I always start wondering what available plan would
be the best substitute. In this case, you could consider:
1) Sea Bird '86
2) Triple Keel Sloop
3) The Bolger revision of the Folkboat done for Small Boat Journal.
This is probably the closest, but I'm not sure plans are available
for this one either.
4) Newfoundlander Catboat. (Personal favorite of mine)
5) Nahant - dory derived 25' sloop from Small Boats.
6) Leeboard catboat
Plenty to choose from in this case.
Peter
are not available, I always start wondering what available plan would
be the best substitute. In this case, you could consider:
1) Sea Bird '86
2) Triple Keel Sloop
3) The Bolger revision of the Folkboat done for Small Boat Journal.
This is probably the closest, but I'm not sure plans are available
for this one either.
4) Newfoundlander Catboat. (Personal favorite of mine)
5) Nahant - dory derived 25' sloop from Small Boats.
6) Leeboard catboat
Plenty to choose from in this case.
Peter
The story of the name "Stone Camel" paraphrased from the article.
Stone Horse is a succesful 23' Sam Crocker design rendered in fiberglass by
Edey and Duff. Peter Duff and Mait Edey were considering making a larger
boat on the same them. They met for dinner several times with PCB where they
bounced ideas off of each other. While the process was harmonious, they
joked about the aesthetic hazards of designing as a group: "A camel is a
horse designed by committee" was the old saw. So naturally the name for the
work in progress became Stone Camel. They never came up with a marketable
name, nor did the boat progress beyond a partial plug before it was
abandoned.
JB
Stone Horse is a succesful 23' Sam Crocker design rendered in fiberglass by
Edey and Duff. Peter Duff and Mait Edey were considering making a larger
boat on the same them. They met for dinner several times with PCB where they
bounced ideas off of each other. While the process was harmonious, they
joked about the aesthetic hazards of designing as a group: "A camel is a
horse designed by committee" was the old saw. So naturally the name for the
work in progress became Stone Camel. They never came up with a marketable
name, nor did the boat progress beyond a partial plug before it was
abandoned.
JB
Ask and ye shall receive...
It was reprised in MAIB 18:6 (August 1, 200).
JB in Kennesaw <><
Who is not working on his AF4 tonight...
It was reprised in MAIB 18:6 (August 1, 200).
JB in Kennesaw <><
Who is not working on his AF4 tonight...
----- Original Message -----
From: <StepHydro@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: [bolger] Stoned Horse and Camel
| Wouldn't it be super if someone who has or gets thta issue would post a
| picture of the boat? (hint)
|
| Cheers/Carron
|
| Bolger rules!!!
| - no cursing, flaming, trolling, or spamming
| - no flogging dead horses
| - add something: take "thanks!" and "ditto!" posts off-list.
| - stay on topic and punctuate
| - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts
| - To order plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA,
01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
|
|
| Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject tohttp://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
|
|
|
Wouldn't it be super if someone who has or gets thta issue would post a
picture of the boat? (hint)
Cheers/Carron
picture of the boat? (hint)
Cheers/Carron
On Mon, 4 Jun 2001kayaker37@...wrote:
Boat Design Quarterly's Issue #20.
These can be had for $8 by writing to Mike O'Brien in Brooklin, ME.
Maybe someone else has his address--mine is not available.
-c
Chris Crandallcrandall@...(785) 864-4131
Department of Psychology University of Kansas Lawrence, KS 66045
I have data convincingly disconfirming the Duhem-Quine hypothesis.
> Am I to infer that Bolger was inspired by the Stone Horse to come upAccording to the letter I got in the mail today, it's in
> with the Stone Camel? Or is this some cooincidence. At least it sounds
> like they're having a good time when they get together ;)
Boat Design Quarterly's Issue #20.
These can be had for $8 by writing to Mike O'Brien in Brooklin, ME.
Maybe someone else has his address--mine is not available.
-c
Chris Crandallcrandall@...(785) 864-4131
Department of Psychology University of Kansas Lawrence, KS 66045
I have data convincingly disconfirming the Duhem-Quine hypothesis.
Am I to infer that Bolger was inspired by the Stone Horse to come up
with the Stone Camel? Or is this some cooincidence. At least it
sounds like they're having a good time when they get together ;)
If anyone comes up with an issue number, please let us know.
Thanks,
Paul
with the Stone Camel? Or is this some cooincidence. At least it
sounds like they're having a good time when they get together ;)
If anyone comes up with an issue number, please let us know.
Thanks,
Paul
> I remember seeing an article comparing the original Stone Horse tonumbered
> Bolger's pastiche Stone Camel, I think in that Woodenboat book that
> has short articles on 100 designs (not one of the variously
> plans catalogs).
>
I remember seeing an article comparing the original Stone Horse to
Bolger's pastiche Stone Camel, I think in that Woodenboat book that
has short articles on 100 designs (not one of the variously numbered
plans catalogs).
Maybe we could bring that one into the thread to bring this back on
topic? ;-)
Personally, I'll go for Bolger's Seabird '86 if I wanted a full-keel
cruiser, or one of George Buehler's old-fashioned, boilerplate
designs.
Good luck!
Matthew Long
Bolger's pastiche Stone Camel, I think in that Woodenboat book that
has short articles on 100 designs (not one of the variously numbered
plans catalogs).
Maybe we could bring that one into the thread to bring this back on
topic? ;-)
Personally, I'll go for Bolger's Seabird '86 if I wanted a full-keel
cruiser, or one of George Buehler's old-fashioned, boilerplate
designs.
Good luck!
Matthew Long
--- In bolger@y..., kayaker37@h... wrote:
> I know its not a Bolger design, but does anyone have any good links
> (pics or drawings) to a Stone Horse
-Hi Kayaker, I don't have any links to a Stonehorse site however I
have the brochure or should I say essay that Edey and Duff used to
send out concerning the Stonehorse. I would be glad to send it to you
for your perusal but eventually I would like to get it back. I Believe
Small Boat Journal had a writeup for the Stonehorse. I will research
that and let you know.
Bob Chamberland
-- In bolger@y..., kayaker37@h... wrote:
have the brochure or should I say essay that Edey and Duff used to
send out concerning the Stonehorse. I would be glad to send it to you
for your perusal but eventually I would like to get it back. I Believe
Small Boat Journal had a writeup for the Stonehorse. I will research
that and let you know.
Bob Chamberland
-- In bolger@y..., kayaker37@h... wrote:
> I know its not a Bolger design, but does anyone have any good linkssmall
> (pics or drawings) to a Stone Horse site? I've seen a couple of
> pics and found one for sale atsmall.
>
>http://www.classicyachts.com/brk_stonehorse.htm
>
>
> but this is probably the best pic I've found, which is just so
>
> Thanks,
> Paul
I know its not a Bolger design, but does anyone have any good links
(pics or drawings) to a Stone Horse site? I've seen a couple of small
pics and found one for sale at
http://www.classicyachts.com/brk_stonehorse.htm
but this is probably the best pic I've found, which is just so small.
Thanks,
Paul
(pics or drawings) to a Stone Horse site? I've seen a couple of small
pics and found one for sale at
http://www.classicyachts.com/brk_stonehorse.htm
but this is probably the best pic I've found, which is just so small.
Thanks,
Paul