Re: Gloucester Yawl/"Small Boats" Book
> I'm sure it must be lifted off the water someway,I agree.
> possibly by the two (2) > daggerboards?
Bolger has since designed other boats that might be better choices,
including the Singapore Gig.
John Welsford's 6 meter whaler is more conventional and very
attractive try for the same market:
http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/store/plans/jw/6m_whaler/index.htm
The boats that get the most play here in the northeast are the
Atlantic Challenge Gigs:http://www.atlanticchallenge.org/They are
fine, I guess, but they are demanding to build. I guess that helps
to fill up the program in the winter as well as the summer.
Peter
I'm sure it must be lifted off the water someway, possibly by the two (2)
daggerboards? Five sails? I wouldn't want to be the councilor trying to
coordinate things.
Roger
derbyrm@...
http://derbyrm.mystarband.net/default.htm
daggerboards? Five sails? I wouldn't want to be the councilor trying to
coordinate things.
Roger
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http://derbyrm.mystarband.net/default.htm
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From: "Mark" <marka@...>
> Thanks, Bill! It really does look made of 1/8" plywood, doesn't it?
> Could it be sitting on a shoal?
> The writeup suggests a crew, four boys and a councilor; not enough
> to fix what's wrong with this picture.
>
> Bolger is not likely to be so far off. Think I'll take a rainy day project
> to enter it into Hulls.
>
> Mark
>
> > I've posted a scan of the Gloucester Yawl photo from Bolger Boats at:
> >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger4photos/files/Gloucester%20Yawl/
> > Bill
Thanks, Bill! It really does look made of 1/8" plywood, doesn't it? Could it be sitting on
a shoal?
The writeup suggests a crew, four boys and a councilor; not enough to fix what's wrong
with this picture.
Bolger is not likely to be so far off. Think I'll take a rainy day project to enter it
into Hulls.
Mark
a shoal?
The writeup suggests a crew, four boys and a councilor; not enough to fix what's wrong
with this picture.
Bolger is not likely to be so far off. Think I'll take a rainy day project to enter it
into Hulls.
Mark
> I've posted a scan of the Gloucester Yawl photo from Bolger Boats at:
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger4photos/files/Gloucester%20Yawl/
>
> Bill
I've posted a scan of the Gloucester Yawl photo from Bolger Boats at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger4photos/files/Gloucester%20Yawl/
Bill
On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 21:40:35 +1000 (EST), Hugo Tyson
<hhetyson@...> wrote:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger4photos/files/Gloucester%20Yawl/
Bill
On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 21:40:35 +1000 (EST), Hugo Tyson
<hhetyson@...> wrote:
> I've got "Small Boats" but there is no photo of the 'Gloucester Yawl' in my first edition unfortunately as its a very interesting boat and has a strange appeal!.
>
> This may be because that mine's an early edition.
>
> I noticed when I was shopping on the Internet for this book that the page numbers varied. I think there was an updated edition printed a few years after the initial publication that contained about 10? extra pages (maybe not as many as that) which therefor may have included a photo.
>
> If someone's got the later edition of "Small Boats" maybe they could have a look and scan the Photo of the 'Gloucester Yawl'(If there is one!?) and post it in the Photos/Files sections on one of the Bolger groups which has enough space left?
>
> Hugo Tyson, Launceston, Tasmania, Australia.
>
> craig o'donnell <dadadata@...> wrote:
> >In my '76 edition of Small Boats, no photo. Too bad for me. I've been
> >curious about that
> >one for nearly 30 years. It would make a wonderfully spacious camping boat.
> >
> >The lines drawing doesn't show it floating as highly as you mentioned
> >earlier. The
> >rockered ends are deceptive. The sponson bottoms aren't more Than a couple
> >of inches out
> >of the the water. Not so high as later efforts. No doubt that's why he
> >said, "...I would
> >on no account use a model like this for a real cruiser..."
> >
> >Thanks for the speedy reply.
> >Mark
>
> >>
> >> That photo is in Bolger's "Small Boats". It can also be found in
> >> Bolger Boats, which combines Small Boats and The Folding Schooner.
>
> Mmm. I don't reacll a photo. but I don't have either book.
>
> Andy Farquahar, who can be reached via the Yahoo sailing canoes group,
> built a sailing canoe along the lines of the Gloucester Yawl.
>
> You might drop him a line.
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I had always understood that the book _Bolger Boats_
was a reprint of earlier material. How much new writing
is included in the _Bolger Boats_ book?
was a reprint of earlier material. How much new writing
is included in the _Bolger Boats_ book?
Although the photo in Bolger Boats is not v. clear, it's a full-size
boat, not a model. So there's no doubt that at least one was built.
Bolger says in his preface to this book: "I even got one [a letter]
from bulders telling me their Gloucester Yawl didn't fall apart after
all and sailed quite fast -- although I did notice that they didn't
have any orders for more of them ...". But very likely not even one
had been built when he wrote about the design originally in Small
Boats.
Howard
boat, not a model. So there's no doubt that at least one was built.
Bolger says in his preface to this book: "I even got one [a letter]
from bulders telling me their Gloucester Yawl didn't fall apart after
all and sailed quite fast -- although I did notice that they didn't
have any orders for more of them ...". But very likely not even one
had been built when he wrote about the design originally in Small
Boats.
Howard
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> > As I recall, no Gloucester Yawl was built. The book contained a
> drawing, that is all.
>
> Dennis_________________________________
> As I recall, no Gloucester Yawl was built. The book contained adrawing, that is all.
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I've got "Small Boats" but there is no photo of the 'Gloucester Yawl' in my first edition unfortunately as its a very interesting boat and has a strange appeal!.
This may be because that mine's an early edition.
I noticed when I was shopping on the Internet for this book that the page numbers varied. I think there was an updated edition printed a few years after the initial publication that contained about 10? extra pages (maybe not as many as that) which therefor may have included a photo.
If someone's got the later edition of "Small Boats" maybe they could have a look and scan the Photo of the 'Gloucester Yawl'(If there is one!?) and post it in the Photos/Files sections on one of the Bolger groups which has enough space left?
Hugo Tyson, Launceston, Tasmania, Australia.
craig o'donnell <dadadata@...> wrote:
Andy Farquahar, who can be reached via the Yahoo sailing canoes group,
built a sailing canoe along the lines of the Gloucester Yawl.
You might drop him a line.
--
Craig O'Donnell
Sinepuxent Ancestors & Boats
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This may be because that mine's an early edition.
I noticed when I was shopping on the Internet for this book that the page numbers varied. I think there was an updated edition printed a few years after the initial publication that contained about 10? extra pages (maybe not as many as that) which therefor may have included a photo.
If someone's got the later edition of "Small Boats" maybe they could have a look and scan the Photo of the 'Gloucester Yawl'(If there is one!?) and post it in the Photos/Files sections on one of the Bolger groups which has enough space left?
Hugo Tyson, Launceston, Tasmania, Australia.
craig o'donnell <dadadata@...> wrote:
>In my '76 edition of Small Boats, no photo. Too bad for me. I've beenMmm. I don't reacll a photo. but I don't have either book.
>curious about that
>one for nearly 30 years. It would make a wonderfully spacious camping boat.
>
>The lines drawing doesn't show it floating as highly as you mentioned
>earlier. The
>rockered ends are deceptive. The sponson bottoms aren't more Than a couple
>of inches out
>of the the water. Not so high as later efforts. No doubt that's why he
>said, "...I would
>on no account use a model like this for a real cruiser..."
>
>Thanks for the speedy reply.
>Mark
>>
>> That photo is in Bolger's "Small Boats". It can also be found in
>> Bolger Boats, which combines Small Boats and The Folding Schooner.
Andy Farquahar, who can be reached via the Yahoo sailing canoes group,
built a sailing canoe along the lines of the Gloucester Yawl.
You might drop him a line.
--
Craig O'Donnell
Sinepuxent Ancestors & Boats
<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~fassitt/>
The Proa FAQ <http://boat-links.com/proafaq.html>
The Cheap Pages <http://www.friend.ly.net/~dadadata/>
Sailing Canoes, Polytarp Sails, Bamboo, Chinese Junks,
American Proas, the Bolger Boat Honor Roll,
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>In my '76 edition of Small Boats, no photo. Too bad for me. I've beenMmm. I don't reacll a photo. but I don't have either book.
>curious about that
>one for nearly 30 years. It would make a wonderfully spacious camping boat.
>
>The lines drawing doesn't show it floating as highly as you mentioned
>earlier. The
>rockered ends are deceptive. The sponson bottoms aren't more Than a couple
>of inches out
>of the the water. Not so high as later efforts. No doubt that's why he
>said, "...I would
>on no account use a model like this for a real cruiser..."
>
>Thanks for the speedy reply.
>Mark
>>
>> That photo is in Bolger's "Small Boats". It can also be found in
>> Bolger Boats, which combines Small Boats and The Folding Schooner.
Andy Farquahar, who can be reached via the Yahoo sailing canoes group,
built a sailing canoe along the lines of the Gloucester Yawl.
You might drop him a line.
--
Craig O'Donnell
Sinepuxent Ancestors & Boats
<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~fassitt/>
The Proa FAQ <http://boat-links.com/proafaq.html>
The Cheap Pages <http://www.friend.ly.net/~dadadata/>
Sailing Canoes, Polytarp Sails, Bamboo, Chinese Junks,
American Proas, the Bolger Boat Honor Roll,
Plywood Boats, Bamboo Rafts, &c.
_________________________________
-- Professor of Boatology -- Junkomologist
-- Macintosh kinda guy
Friend of Wanda the Wonder Cat, 1991-1997.
_________________________________
Well, that's odd. I've never seen a copy of Small Boat, but always
assumed that whatever was in the combined book was also in each of
the two components. (I have a copy of The Folding Schooner).
The photo is not very clear, but the hull is so high out of the water
that it seems to have a waterline length of only about ten ft. The
drawing in Bolger2 files is much more informative than the photo.
The photo shows a rigged boat, but with no crew, meant to be
something like four boys and an adult. It's hard to see how that
weight would bring the boat down to its designed lines and that is no
doubt what Boger meant about ballast.
Howard
assumed that whatever was in the combined book was also in each of
the two components. (I have a copy of The Folding Schooner).
The photo is not very clear, but the hull is so high out of the water
that it seems to have a waterline length of only about ten ft. The
drawing in Bolger2 files is much more informative than the photo.
The photo shows a rigged boat, but with no crew, meant to be
something like four boys and an adult. It's hard to see how that
weight would bring the boat down to its designed lines and that is no
doubt what Boger meant about ballast.
Howard
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Mark <marka@h...> wrote:
> In my '76 edition of Small Boats, no photo.
>
> The lines drawing doesn't show it floating as highly as you
mentioned earlier. The
> rockered ends are deceptive. The sponson bottoms aren't more Than a
couple of inches out
> of the the water. Not so high as later efforts. No doubt that's why
he said, "...I would
> on no account use a model like this for a real cruiser..."
In my '76 edition of Small Boats, no photo. Too bad for me. I've been curious about that
one for nearly 30 years. It would make a wonderfully spacious camping boat.
The lines drawing doesn't show it floating as highly as you mentioned earlier. The
rockered ends are deceptive. The sponson bottoms aren't more Than a couple of inches out
of the the water. Not so high as later efforts. No doubt that's why he said, "...I would
on no account use a model like this for a real cruiser..."
Thanks for the speedy reply.
Mark
Howard Stephenson wrote:
one for nearly 30 years. It would make a wonderfully spacious camping boat.
The lines drawing doesn't show it floating as highly as you mentioned earlier. The
rockered ends are deceptive. The sponson bottoms aren't more Than a couple of inches out
of the the water. Not so high as later efforts. No doubt that's why he said, "...I would
on no account use a model like this for a real cruiser..."
Thanks for the speedy reply.
Mark
Howard Stephenson wrote:
>
> Mark,
>
> That photo is in Bolger's "Small Boats". It can also be found in
> Bolger Boats, which combines Small Boats and The Folding Schooner.
>
> Unfortunately I don't have access to a scanner. But at
>
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger2/files/Gloucester%20Yawl/
>
> .. you can see the sailplan plus hull sections.
>
> Howard
> t
Mark,
That photo is in Bolger's "Small Boats". It can also be found in
Bolger Boats, which combines Small Boats and The Folding Schooner.
Unfortunately I don't have access to a scanner. But at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger2/files/Gloucester%20Yawl/
.. you can see the sailplan plus hull sections.
Howard
That photo is in Bolger's "Small Boats". It can also be found in
Bolger Boats, which combines Small Boats and The Folding Schooner.
Unfortunately I don't have access to a scanner. But at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger2/files/Gloucester%20Yawl/
.. you can see the sailplan plus hull sections.
Howard
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Mark <marka@h...> wrote:
> Where's that photo, please?
> Mark
>
> Howard Stephenson wrote:
>
> > Eventually someone built the design and apparently found it to be
> > reasonably successful. There is a photo of the boat sitting so
high
Where's that photo, please?
Mark
Howard Stephenson wrote:
Mark
Howard Stephenson wrote:
> Eventually someone built the design and apparently found it to be
> reasonably successful. There is a photo of the boat sitting so high
> in the water that it looks like it's made of 1/8" balsa. The caption
> says: "Looks as though some ballast would be a good idea."
>
> Howard
> s
I've spent the evening trying to figure out what ails my on-again,
off-again scanner. I got one test scan which is of the Gloucester
Yawl from PCB's book Small Boats. It is one of his wilder ideas so I
thought I would put it on the web for those who haven't seen it. It
is in the Files section of the Boger2 group.
Enjoy,
Peter
off-again scanner. I got one test scan which is of the Gloucester
Yawl from PCB's book Small Boats. It is one of his wilder ideas so I
thought I would put it on the web for those who haven't seen it. It
is in the Files section of the Boger2 group.
Enjoy,
Peter