Re: [bolger] Re: San Francisco Pelican

I agree with Chuck, let's talk boat building! Not this gentlemen!

I just updated my site at www.dreamwater.net/cosailor . We enjoyed a
weekend of sailing so I posted some pictures of the lake so unfortunately I
haven't had a chance to do a lot work on the Tennessee.

I hope to paint the bottom (of the front half ) this week and turn it over
to start working the cabin interior.

Nothing fancy, in fact it think I may just go with pipe berths since they
will swing up out of the way for storage. My guess is well sleep in the
large cockpit more often than not. Especially if I get my side curtains
done to keep the bugs out. The pipe berths will allow me to use the entire
cabin for storage. They are well described in a book I bought. They look a
lot easier to build that a plywood platform.

Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chuck Leinweber" <chuck@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 4:44 PM
Subject: RE: [bolger] Re: San Francisco Pelican


>
> >if you want to continue, lets take it off line
> >
> Please! Take it offline.
>
> Chuck
>
> Bolger rules!!!
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> - no flogging dead horses
> - add something: take "thanks!" and "ditto!" posts off-list.
> - stay on topic and punctuate
> - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts
> - To order plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA,
01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
>
>
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>
>
>if you want to continue, lets take it off line
>
Please! Take it offline.

Chuck
michael , You know nothing about me yet you pass this B.S. to me as
if you do , I frankly think you sound like an ass hole. if you want
to continue, lets take it off line.julian--- In bolger@y..., "Michael
Surface" <msurface@h...> wrote:
> Julian
>
> Take your Prozac.
>
> Michael Surface
>
>
> >From: jfouser@y...
> >Reply-To: bolger@y...
> >To: bolger@y...
> >Subject: [bolger] Re: San Francisco Pelican
> >Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2001 15:58:26 -0000
> >
> >michael, those sound like fightig words me,so who got a problem?
> >julian
> > --- In
bolger@y..., "Michael
> >Surface" <msurface@h...> wrote:
> > > Julian
> > >
> > > I what is your problem? It seem like you are looking to start
an
> >argument.
> > > I find your tone to be somewhat strange. The Pelican is an
> >interesting boat
> > > that has had a long successful history. The fact that many of
us on
> >this
> > > list are familiar with it shows that being interested in and
> >respecting
> > > Boldger's designs has if anything increases our appreciation of
> >good design.
> > >
> > > Michael Surface
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: jfouser@y...
> > > >Reply-To: bolger@y...
> > > >To: bolger@y...
> > > >Subject: [bolger] Re: San Francisco Pelican
> > > >Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2001 20:28:16 -0000
> > > >
> > > >I Dont think that I have to prove anything the boat designs
most
> > > >talked about in this group make my case.
> > > > >Julian
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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Julian

Take your Prozac.

Michael Surface


>From:jfouser@...
>Reply-To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
>To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [bolger] Re: San Francisco Pelican
>Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2001 15:58:26 -0000
>
>michael, those sound like fightig words me,so who got a problem?
>julian
> --- In bolger@y..., "Michael
>Surface" <msurface@h...> wrote:
> > Julian
> >
> > I what is your problem? It seem like you are looking to start an
>argument.
> > I find your tone to be somewhat strange. The Pelican is an
>interesting boat
> > that has had a long successful history. The fact that many of us on
>this
> > list are familiar with it shows that being interested in and
>respecting
> > Boldger's designs has if anything increases our appreciation of
>good design.
> >
> > Michael Surface
> >
> >
> > >From: jfouser@y...
> > >Reply-To: bolger@y...
> > >To: bolger@y...
> > >Subject: [bolger] Re: San Francisco Pelican
> > >Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2001 20:28:16 -0000
> > >
> > >I Dont think that I have to prove anything the boat designs most
> > >talked about in this group make my case.
> > > >Julian
> > >
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
> > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer athttp://explorer.msn.com
>

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Julian

I what is your problem? It seem like you are looking to start an argument.
I find your tone to be somewhat strange. The Pelican is an interesting boat
that has had a long successful history. The fact that many of us on this
list are familiar with it shows that being interested in and respecting
Boldger's designs has if anything increases our appreciation of good design.

Michael Surface


>From:jfouser@...
>Reply-To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
>To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [bolger] Re: San Francisco Pelican
>Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2001 20:28:16 -0000
>
>I Dont think that I have to prove anything the boat designs most
>talked about in this group make my case.
> >Julian
>

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Bolger got well into the design of a cuddy cabin, pram-bowed sailboat
that was an enlargement of Nymph for HH Payson. He decided that the
ergonomics were not good and the project was dropped. I don't think
you can prove he has a problem with the Pelican hull shape.



--- In bolger@y..., jfouser@y... wrote:
> Wrong,no way bolger could design the pelican. What with flared sides
> for reserve stability and safty, not Bolgeresque at all.Besides the
> Pelican is just an inlargment of what has been around for long time
> anyway.
> Julian
I mean no disrespect to Julian but if Bolger hasn't designed any boats with
flared sides, then who designed Surf, Teal,The Folding Schooner, Black
Skimmer, Black Gauntlet 2, Rondo 2, Windfola, Dovekie, Centenial 2, Otter2,
Wolf trap, Solution, Query, Poohsticks or The Gloucester Gull?

Stuart Crawford.




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>From:jfouser@...
>To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [bolger] Re: San Francisco Pelican
>Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 3:52 AM
>

> Wrong,no way bolger could design the pelican. What with flared sides
> for reserve stability and safty, not Bolgeresque at all.Besides the
> Pelican is just an inlargment of what has been around for long time
> anyway.
> Julian
>
>
> Bolger rules!!!
> - no cursing, flaming, trolling, or spamming
> - no flogging dead horses
> - add something: take "thanks!" and "ditto!" posts off-list.
> - stay on topic and punctuate
> - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts
> - To order plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA,
> 01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject tohttp://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
Wrong,no way bolger could design the pelican. What with flared sides
for reserve stability and safty, not Bolgeresque at all.Besides the
Pelican is just an inlargment of what has been around for long time
anyway.
Julian