Re: FLARED SIDES
--- In bolger@y..., staehpj1@h... wrote:
*** Not only that, but Bolger apparently was not the first to design
sharpies with no flare at all.
I'm quoting here from Howard Chapelle's "Chesapeake Bay Crabbing
Skiffs," a small booklet published by the Chesapeake Bay Maritime
Museum. Chapelle describes an unusual "flattie" skiff (flat-bottomed
forward, with deadrise aft) from Smith Island, Maryland, which had
tumblehome amidships. In other words, the sheer amidships was
narrower than the chine. Some watermen thought the design, with its
very sharp chine, helped the boat get to windward in very shallow
water. (Chapelle was skeptical.)
Chapelle then adds this remark: "Because of the success of this
particular model, many watermen are convinced that flare is harmful
to speed in sailing craft and so A NUMBER OF WALL-SIDED SKIFFS HAVE
DEVELOPED; these are, in general, dangerous boats in blowing weather."
Wall-sided skiffs?
Stephen
> Even Bolgers's boats, as original as they are, borrow very heavilyfrom others that came before. He didn't invent the sharpie after all.
*** Not only that, but Bolger apparently was not the first to design
sharpies with no flare at all.
I'm quoting here from Howard Chapelle's "Chesapeake Bay Crabbing
Skiffs," a small booklet published by the Chesapeake Bay Maritime
Museum. Chapelle describes an unusual "flattie" skiff (flat-bottomed
forward, with deadrise aft) from Smith Island, Maryland, which had
tumblehome amidships. In other words, the sheer amidships was
narrower than the chine. Some watermen thought the design, with its
very sharp chine, helped the boat get to windward in very shallow
water. (Chapelle was skeptical.)
Chapelle then adds this remark: "Because of the success of this
particular model, many watermen are convinced that flare is harmful
to speed in sailing craft and so A NUMBER OF WALL-SIDED SKIFFS HAVE
DEVELOPED; these are, in general, dangerous boats in blowing weather."
Wall-sided skiffs?
Stephen
I won't presume to agree or disagree with any opinion about whether
Bolger could or would have designed the Pelican. There are a number
of reasons, including the following:
I am not an expert on bolger designs (or any other designs
for that matter).
I consider that kind of argument to be somewhat pointless.
That said I must say that I don't see where you (Julian) are coming
from on this one.
First, of all Bolger has designed boats with a LOT of flare. Not
only a little added as a concession to fashion. Do you honestly
think he added flare to the Glouchester Gull for fashion? That
notion is absurd. Ditto for Teal, Windsprint, and many others. I
think I read a quote where he said he earned his ticket to heaven by
designing the Gull, so he must have been pretty happy with at least
one of his highly flared designs.
What do you mean when you say, "Pelican is just an inlargment of what
has been around for long time anyway." That just seems like a cheap
shot that could be taken at any designer, including Bolger.
Pelican has been around for a long time itself (1959), and just what
is it an enlargment of?
Even Bolgers's boats, as original as they are, borrow very heavily
from others that came before. He didn't invent the sharpie after all.
I don't want to start a flame war or anything, but your comments just
didn't make sense to me.
Pete
Bolger could or would have designed the Pelican. There are a number
of reasons, including the following:
I am not an expert on bolger designs (or any other designs
for that matter).
I consider that kind of argument to be somewhat pointless.
That said I must say that I don't see where you (Julian) are coming
from on this one.
First, of all Bolger has designed boats with a LOT of flare. Not
only a little added as a concession to fashion. Do you honestly
think he added flare to the Glouchester Gull for fashion? That
notion is absurd. Ditto for Teal, Windsprint, and many others. I
think I read a quote where he said he earned his ticket to heaven by
designing the Gull, so he must have been pretty happy with at least
one of his highly flared designs.
What do you mean when you say, "Pelican is just an inlargment of what
has been around for long time anyway." That just seems like a cheap
shot that could be taken at any designer, including Bolger.
Pelican has been around for a long time itself (1959), and just what
is it an enlargment of?
Even Bolgers's boats, as original as they are, borrow very heavily
from others that came before. He didn't invent the sharpie after all.
I don't want to start a flame war or anything, but your comments just
didn't make sense to me.
Pete
Well I Knew some bugger would come out of the closet to blow me an
ill wind over that one, but Bolger hisself admits that in later
sharpies he has designed the little flare they have is consetion to
fashion.
Julian
ill wind over that one, but Bolger hisself admits that in later
sharpies he has designed the little flare they have is consetion to
fashion.
Julian