Re: Yampa Test
Do we really want to know about Yampa shorts? Did the Bolger Group
get cyberjacked, or what? In the meantime, my second posting re
meranti seems to have disappeared into the ether. Was there some sort
of accidental cross-posting between Yahoo Groups today?
John in Victoria
disOn--- In bolger@y..., zacee@t... wrote:
marketing is calling
with a threatening sky overhead. I managed to keep a pretty decent
pace & ; was
wearing polyester box ers
later. B y 7:00 PM we
hikers glad t hey
much safer in
than I can use at
get cyberjacked, or what? In the meantime, my second posting re
meranti seems to have disappeared into the ether. Was there some sort
of accidental cross-posting between Yahoo Groups today?
John in Victoria
disOn--- In bolger@y..., zacee@t... wrote:
>last test.< BR> Are we testing any pick up trucks soon? Ford
> The Yampa Shorts held up better than my vehicles have since the
marketing is calling
> themselves gear outfitters????and I
>
> The weather forecast was not very favorable for Sunday afternoon &
> was waiting for a phone call between 8:45 & 10:00 so no long range plans
> were going to take place. I wanted to check if the key clip in thebo ttom
> leg pocket was beneficial for kayaking. On my second report Imention ed it
> was a minor nuisance that low on my leg. I grabbed the kayak & headed to
> the local pond. Shorts held up well while digging the kayak outfrom under
> the roofing shingles & hiking gear that had been piled up on itsince l ast
> summer. As expected, the upper zipper pockets are above the top ofth e
> kayak cockpit. Sure, you can zipper them shut but in case of amoment ary
> brain lapse, (leaving the pockets unzipped), you could have a majorco ckpit
> inconvenience. The lower leg pocket though is below the top of the
> & if you failed to secure your keys to the clip & did not fasten the
> velcro, for recreational kayaking, barring capsizing, your keyswould fall< BR> into the kayak, not the lake.
>Channel. I
> I got my phone call at 9:30 and promptly checked the Weather
> was in central CT, a line of thunderstorms were in Syracuse, NY.likely t he
> Destination Mt. Greylock, MA's highest point in northwest MA &
> first place in MA to get hit with the squall line. I arrived atthe trailhead on the east side of the mountain just before 12:00
with a threatening sky overhead. I managed to keep a pretty decent
pace & ; was
> about two miles in when I first heard thunder off in the distance.I still
> had about one mile to go. Noon time weather was very humid with adamp. As a
> temperature in the middle 80's and the Yampa Shorts were a bit
> person who sweats profusely & one who was also trying to get to thetop of
> a mountain as quickly as possible, staying dry was unlikely. Tenminu tes
> later, it be impossible.figured I
>
> As I passed the highest body of water in MA on the highest peak I
> was just missing a couple of golf clubs. I was within about 2/10'sof a
> mile from the Summit Tower when it began to rain. Thunder & lightening was
> increasing but still not overhead. Once in the War Memorial Towerato p Mt.
> Greylock, I put on a dry shirt & my shell & headed down befor ethe main
> fireworks began. Having a choice to walk a small section of roador g o by
> the pond, I opted for the road walk. Ten minutes later, the raincame down
> in sheets & once again, I was soaked, head to toe. A few closer lightening
> strikes but I managed to get to the car & on my way before the maincel l
> struck the hill.comfortable as any pair of shorts I've worn soaking wet. After
>
> After Sunday I had concluded that the Yampa shorts were as
wearing polyester box ers
> on Sunday, I also concluded they were more comfortable soaking wetin
> briefs. I also carried just the two car keys, a whistle & Photonlight on
> the key chain & it was less noticeable than my whole key chain.(four c ar
> keys, & a small remote entry key chain.)them to
>
> I was home by 5:00 & in the early evening washed the shorts & hung
> dry. I was going to pack the Yampa shorts & some clothes for a hike Monday
> after work. Destination: arguably the Western Hemisphere's mostclimb ed
> mountain, New Hampshire's Mt. Monadnock. Monday started cool,brisk & amp; as
> clear as a crisp October Day. I started packing & the Yampashorts were a
> little damp so I threw them in the dryer for 20 minutes beforehopping in the shower. They were dry & stuffed into a bag for
later. B y 7:00 PM we
> were on the trail & headed up for some sunset pictures & a headlampt the
> descent. Weather was around 60 at the base & in the middle 50's a
> summit with a brisk 25 MPH wind with gust in the low to middle 30'swhich made picture taking without bracing yourself tough & four
hikers glad t hey
> brought some extra clothing. After about ten minutes of standingarou nd,
> our fingers got cold.hiking
>
> I had sweated a bit on this trip too but in more typical mountain
> weather, the shorts stayed dry. The zipper pockets are great whenput ting
> your own wrappers in the pocket & keeping valuables safe. The last two
> hikes were with a large fanny pack with the belt squarely over theYampa
> belt buckle I initially had some concerns about. No issues orproblem s
> with the fanny pack.s a
>
> Final analysis:
>
> Yampa shorts are well made & designed. I'd be happier if there wa
> second key clip in one of the upper pockets also but if only one isgoing to be included & the target market are boaters & hikers, it's
much safer in
> it's current place. I'd also be happier if the available waistsizes were
> every inch instead of two inches (34, 36, 38) However, the beltdoes a
> great job keeping the pants in place. Drying times on the trail Itho ught
> may have been a little slow but after the first two hikes I wasworried
> they attracted rain & thunderstorms. Excessive sweating is nothing to brag
> about but if you are not the biggest sweater you know, they shouldbe fine.
> On a real humid 85 degree day most people go swimming so how manydays like
> this exist. The shorts held up well to a couple of washings as youwo uld
> expect any "made in USA" garment to doggested
>
> Would I buy a pair of Yampa shorts? This is a hard call. The su
> price in my opinion was high but then again I worked at a largeNortheast USA based retailer for about three years buying more gear
than I can use at
> discounted prices. However, if you like the quality of a 100% USAmad e
> garment (something that most outdoor retailers & gear makers can'tsay, as
> some make material here but have assembled abroad) and don't mindpay ing
> for that quality than these shorts should be highly considered.There is a
> cliché that says you get what you pay for.
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The Yampa Shorts held up better than my vehicles have since the last test.< BR> Are we testing any pick up trucks soon? Ford marketing is calling
themselves gear outfitters????
The weather forecast was not very favorable for Sunday afternoon & and I
was waiting for a phone call between 8:45 & 10:00 so no long rang e plans
were going to take place. I wanted to check if the key clip in the bo ttom
leg pocket was beneficial for kayaking. On my second report I mention ed it
was a minor nuisance that low on my leg. I grabbed the kayak & he aded to
the local pond. Shorts held up well while digging the kayak out from under
the roofing shingles & hiking gear that had been piled up on it since l ast
summer. As expected, the upper zipper pockets are above the top of th e
kayak cockpit. Sure, you can zipper them shut but in case of a moment ary
brain lapse, (leaving the pockets unzipped), you could have a major
inconvenience. The lower leg pocket though is below the top of the co ckpit
& if you failed to secure your keys to the clip & did not fasten th e
velcro, for recreational kayaking, barring capsizing, your keys would fall< BR> into the kayak, not the lake.
I got my phone call at 9:30 and promptly checked the Weather Channel. I
was in central CT, a line of thunderstorms were in Syracuse, NY.
Destination Mt. Greylock, MA's highest point in northwest MA & likely t he
first place in MA to get hit with the squall line. I arrived at the trailhead on the east side of the mountain just before 12:00 with a threatening sky overhead. I managed to keep a pretty decent pace & ; was
about two miles in when I first heard thunder off in the distance. I still
had about one mile to go. Noon time weather was very humid with a
temperature in the middle 80's and the Yampa Shorts were a bit damp. As a
person who sweats profusely & one who was also trying to get to the top of
a mountain as quickly as possible, staying dry was unlikely. Ten minu tes
later, it be impossible.
As I passed the highest body of water in MA on the highest peak I figured I
was just missing a couple of golf clubs. I was within about 2/10's of a
mile from the Summit Tower when it began to rain. Thunder & light ening was
increasing but still not overhead. Once in the War Memorial Tower ato p Mt.
Greylock, I put on a dry shirt & my shell & headed down befor e the main
fireworks began. Having a choice to walk a small section of road or g o by
the pond, I opted for the road walk. Ten minutes later, the rain came down
in sheets & once again, I was soaked, head to toe. A few closer l ightening
strikes but I managed to get to the car & on my way before the main cel l
struck the hill.
After Sunday I had concluded that the Yampa shorts were as comfortable as any pair of shorts I've worn soaking wet. After wearing polyester box ers
on Sunday, I also concluded they were more comfortable soaking wet in
briefs. I also carried just the two car keys, a whistle & Photon light on
the key chain & it was less noticeable than my whole key chain. (four c ar
keys, & a small remote entry key chain.)
I was home by 5:00 & in the early evening washed the shorts & hung them to
dry. I was going to pack the Yampa shorts & some clothes for a hi ke Monday
after work. Destination: arguably the Western Hemisphere's most climb ed
mountain, New Hampshire's Mt. Monadnock. Monday started cool, brisk & amp; as
clear as a crisp October Day. I started packing & the Yampa shorts were a
little damp so I threw them in the dryer for 20 minutes before hopping in the shower. They were dry & stuffed into a bag for later. B y 7:00 PM we
were on the trail & headed up for some sunset pictures & a headlamp
descent. Weather was around 60 at the base & in the middle 50's a t the
summit with a brisk 25 MPH wind with gust in the low to middle 30's which made picture taking without bracing yourself tough & four hikers glad t hey
brought some extra clothing. After about ten minutes of standing arou nd,
our fingers got cold.
I had sweated a bit on this trip too but in more typical mountain hiking
weather, the shorts stayed dry. The zipper pockets are great when put ting
your own wrappers in the pocket & keeping valuables safe. The las t two
hikes were with a large fanny pack with the belt squarely over the Yampa
belt buckle I initially had some concerns about. No issues or problem s
with the fanny pack.
Final analysis:
Yampa shorts are well made & designed. I'd be happier if there wa s a
second key clip in one of the upper pockets also but if only one is going to be included & the target market are boaters & hikers, it's much safer in
it's current place. I'd also be happier if the available waist sizes were
every inch instead of two inches (34, 36, 38) However, the belt does a
great job keeping the pants in place. Drying times on the trail I tho ught
may have been a little slow but after the first two hikes I was worried
they attracted rain & thunderstorms. Excessive sweating is nothin g to brag
about but if you are not the biggest sweater you know, they should be fine.
On a real humid 85 degree day most people go swimming so how many days like
this exist. The shorts held up well to a couple of washings as you wo uld
expect any "made in USA" garment to do
Would I buy a pair of Yampa shorts? This is a hard call. The su ggested
price in my opinion was high but then again I worked at a large Northeast USA based retailer for about three years buying more gear than I can use at
discounted prices. However, if you like the quality of a 100% USA mad e
garment (something that most outdoor retailers & gear makers can't say, as
some make material here but have assembled abroad) and don't mind pay ing
for that quality than these shorts should be highly considered. There is a
clich� that says you get what you pay for.
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themselves gear outfitters????
The weather forecast was not very favorable for Sunday afternoon & and I
was waiting for a phone call between 8:45 & 10:00 so no long rang e plans
were going to take place. I wanted to check if the key clip in the bo ttom
leg pocket was beneficial for kayaking. On my second report I mention ed it
was a minor nuisance that low on my leg. I grabbed the kayak & he aded to
the local pond. Shorts held up well while digging the kayak out from under
the roofing shingles & hiking gear that had been piled up on it since l ast
summer. As expected, the upper zipper pockets are above the top of th e
kayak cockpit. Sure, you can zipper them shut but in case of a moment ary
brain lapse, (leaving the pockets unzipped), you could have a major
inconvenience. The lower leg pocket though is below the top of the co ckpit
& if you failed to secure your keys to the clip & did not fasten th e
velcro, for recreational kayaking, barring capsizing, your keys would fall< BR> into the kayak, not the lake.
I got my phone call at 9:30 and promptly checked the Weather Channel. I
was in central CT, a line of thunderstorms were in Syracuse, NY.
Destination Mt. Greylock, MA's highest point in northwest MA & likely t he
first place in MA to get hit with the squall line. I arrived at the trailhead on the east side of the mountain just before 12:00 with a threatening sky overhead. I managed to keep a pretty decent pace & ; was
about two miles in when I first heard thunder off in the distance. I still
had about one mile to go. Noon time weather was very humid with a
temperature in the middle 80's and the Yampa Shorts were a bit damp. As a
person who sweats profusely & one who was also trying to get to the top of
a mountain as quickly as possible, staying dry was unlikely. Ten minu tes
later, it be impossible.
As I passed the highest body of water in MA on the highest peak I figured I
was just missing a couple of golf clubs. I was within about 2/10's of a
mile from the Summit Tower when it began to rain. Thunder & light ening was
increasing but still not overhead. Once in the War Memorial Tower ato p Mt.
Greylock, I put on a dry shirt & my shell & headed down befor e the main
fireworks began. Having a choice to walk a small section of road or g o by
the pond, I opted for the road walk. Ten minutes later, the rain came down
in sheets & once again, I was soaked, head to toe. A few closer l ightening
strikes but I managed to get to the car & on my way before the main cel l
struck the hill.
After Sunday I had concluded that the Yampa shorts were as comfortable as any pair of shorts I've worn soaking wet. After wearing polyester box ers
on Sunday, I also concluded they were more comfortable soaking wet in
briefs. I also carried just the two car keys, a whistle & Photon light on
the key chain & it was less noticeable than my whole key chain. (four c ar
keys, & a small remote entry key chain.)
I was home by 5:00 & in the early evening washed the shorts & hung them to
dry. I was going to pack the Yampa shorts & some clothes for a hi ke Monday
after work. Destination: arguably the Western Hemisphere's most climb ed
mountain, New Hampshire's Mt. Monadnock. Monday started cool, brisk & amp; as
clear as a crisp October Day. I started packing & the Yampa shorts were a
little damp so I threw them in the dryer for 20 minutes before hopping in the shower. They were dry & stuffed into a bag for later. B y 7:00 PM we
were on the trail & headed up for some sunset pictures & a headlamp
descent. Weather was around 60 at the base & in the middle 50's a t the
summit with a brisk 25 MPH wind with gust in the low to middle 30's which made picture taking without bracing yourself tough & four hikers glad t hey
brought some extra clothing. After about ten minutes of standing arou nd,
our fingers got cold.
I had sweated a bit on this trip too but in more typical mountain hiking
weather, the shorts stayed dry. The zipper pockets are great when put ting
your own wrappers in the pocket & keeping valuables safe. The las t two
hikes were with a large fanny pack with the belt squarely over the Yampa
belt buckle I initially had some concerns about. No issues or problem s
with the fanny pack.
Final analysis:
Yampa shorts are well made & designed. I'd be happier if there wa s a
second key clip in one of the upper pockets also but if only one is going to be included & the target market are boaters & hikers, it's much safer in
it's current place. I'd also be happier if the available waist sizes were
every inch instead of two inches (34, 36, 38) However, the belt does a
great job keeping the pants in place. Drying times on the trail I tho ught
may have been a little slow but after the first two hikes I was worried
they attracted rain & thunderstorms. Excessive sweating is nothin g to brag
about but if you are not the biggest sweater you know, they should be fine.
On a real humid 85 degree day most people go swimming so how many days like
this exist. The shorts held up well to a couple of washings as you wo uld
expect any "made in USA" garment to do
Would I buy a pair of Yampa shorts? This is a hard call. The su ggested
price in my opinion was high but then again I worked at a large Northeast USA based retailer for about three years buying more gear than I can use at
discounted prices. However, if you like the quality of a 100% USA mad e
garment (something that most outdoor retailers & gear makers can't say, as
some make material here but have assembled abroad) and don't mind pay ing
for that quality than these shorts should be highly considered. There is a
clich� that says you get what you pay for.
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