[bolger] Re: More Epoxy Glue Question
Robert,
I agree with you but don't worry about the advice! I don't know if you read
the piece I wrote after my first experience with epoxy, but I laugh just
thinking about it. Oh, the arrogance and cockiness I had after reading all
that advice. Maybe its still available at the e-groups website. You can't
screw up more than I did, well maybe you can, but you would have to really
try! I wouldn't change the experience as it is rare to laugh that hard. I
probably added 3 years to my life.
Chuck.
I agree with you but don't worry about the advice! I don't know if you read
the piece I wrote after my first experience with epoxy, but I laugh just
thinking about it. Oh, the arrogance and cockiness I had after reading all
that advice. Maybe its still available at the e-groups website. You can't
screw up more than I did, well maybe you can, but you would have to really
try! I wouldn't change the experience as it is rare to laugh that hard. I
probably added 3 years to my life.
Chuck.
I really think this is an area of knowlege where the group should be
completely silent. Making gigantic epoxy messes is a major part of
boatbuilding. Tim (of Light Scconer website fame) mentions not having a cat
around as a very important thing. He doesn't elucidate as to why this is,
however, one is left with a clear impression.
Epoxy stories are some of the best parts of this group; please don't ruin
this for others with too much good advice!
Robert & Amy Lundy
St. Petersburg, fla.
robert@...
amy@...
completely silent. Making gigantic epoxy messes is a major part of
boatbuilding. Tim (of Light Scconer website fame) mentions not having a cat
around as a very important thing. He doesn't elucidate as to why this is,
however, one is left with a clear impression.
Epoxy stories are some of the best parts of this group; please don't ruin
this for others with too much good advice!
Robert & Amy Lundy
St. Petersburg, fla.
robert@...
amy@...
> -----Original Message-----
> From:KF4call@...[mailto:KF4call@...]
> Sent: 21 December, 1999 8:29 PM
> To:bolger@egroups.com
> Subject: [bolger] Re: More Epoxy Glue Question
>
>
> In the "Epoxy Book" by Kern Hendricks (the System Three Guy)
> there is a page
> (Appendix D) Entitled "Estimating Amounts" that you might find
> helpful.
> Just a reminder of one other factor which is more personal and less
> statistical ...how much of the goop can you apply before it sets up? How
> fast a goop spreader are you anyway? I have a large collection of
> strange-shaped bookends from all the times I mixed more that I
> could spread.
> Regards, Warren
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In the "Epoxy Book" by Kern Hendricks (the System Three Guy) there is a page
(Appendix D) Entitled "Estimating Amounts" that you might find helpful.
Just a reminder of one other factor which is more personal and less
statistical ...how much of the goop can you apply before it sets up? How
fast a goop spreader are you anyway? I have a large collection of
strange-shaped bookends from all the times I mixed more that I could spread.
Regards, Warren
(Appendix D) Entitled "Estimating Amounts" that you might find helpful.
Just a reminder of one other factor which is more personal and less
statistical ...how much of the goop can you apply before it sets up? How
fast a goop spreader are you anyway? I have a large collection of
strange-shaped bookends from all the times I mixed more that I could spread.
Regards, Warren
David:
The problem is most of us don't do this (gluing) steadily enough to get good
at it. My method is to use slow hardener, then mix up and apply small
batches until I have enough. This keeps waste to a minimum, but takes a
little longer.
Chuck Leinweber
Duckworks Magazine
http://www.hilconet.com/~dworksmg
The problem is most of us don't do this (gluing) steadily enough to get good
at it. My method is to use slow hardener, then mix up and apply small
batches until I have enough. This keeps waste to a minimum, but takes a
little longer.
Chuck Leinweber
Duckworks Magazine
http://www.hilconet.com/~dworksmg
----- Original Message -----
From: David Ryan <david@...>
To: <bolger@egroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 8:37 AM
Subject: [bolger] More Epoxy Glue Question
> FBBB --
>
> As I said before, I've got the West 105 resin, I've got the 206
> hardner, I've got the 406 colloidal silica thickener, I've even got a
> bunch of very informative WestSystem literature.
>
> What I don't have is a sense of what volume of goop I need to mix up
> to glue together a particular surface area.
>
> If any of you have a "rules of thumb" for the volume of epoxy needed
> per square foot, or square meter (I'll convert) I'd be very
> appreciative.
>
> YIBB,
>
> David Ryan
> Minister of Information and Culture
> Crumbling Empire Productions
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When I glued the bottom together on Entropy, I used a carpet adhesive spreader,
basicly a disposable plastic notched trowel with 1/8 inch "V" notches,
to spread an even coat.
I used about 1 gallon for the bottom, including the "priming" coat. She is 5 ft wide and 20 ft long, ajusting for not being square, say 75 sq ft. per gallon.
Your mileage may very.
David Ryan wrote:
FBBB --
As I said before, I've got the West 105 resin, I've got the 206
hardner, I've got the 406 colloidal silica thickener, I've even got
a
bunch of very informative WestSystem literature.
What I don't have is a sense of what volume of goop I need to mix up
to glue together a particular surface area.
If any of you have a "rules of thumb" for the volume of epoxy needed
per square foot, or square meter (I'll convert) I'd be very
appreciative.
YIBB,
David Ryan
Minister of Information and Culture
Crumbling Empire Productions
(212) 247-0296
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David,
You might pick up a copy of the System 3 'Epoxy book' - a useful addition to
your West System armoury :) Full of all sorts of fun stuff including tables
of coverage figures, filler volumes etc.
They quote glue volume per 100 square feet, using a soft paste consistency
resin/filler mix and low pressure clamping (pinned down as opposed to vacuum
bagged) as 1.32 gallons for soft wood and 1.2 gallons for hardwood. Volume
in high pressure joints is about halved without danger of starving.
Usual caveats apply, your mileage may vary etc.
Just Glue it! :)
regards
Derek
You might pick up a copy of the System 3 'Epoxy book' - a useful addition to
your West System armoury :) Full of all sorts of fun stuff including tables
of coverage figures, filler volumes etc.
They quote glue volume per 100 square feet, using a soft paste consistency
resin/filler mix and low pressure clamping (pinned down as opposed to vacuum
bagged) as 1.32 gallons for soft wood and 1.2 gallons for hardwood. Volume
in high pressure joints is about halved without danger of starving.
Usual caveats apply, your mileage may vary etc.
Just Glue it! :)
regards
Derek
FBBB --
As I said before, I've got the West 105 resin, I've got the 206
hardner, I've got the 406 colloidal silica thickener, I've even got a
bunch of very informative WestSystem literature.
What I don't have is a sense of what volume of goop I need to mix up
to glue together a particular surface area.
If any of you have a "rules of thumb" for the volume of epoxy needed
per square foot, or square meter (I'll convert) I'd be very
appreciative.
YIBB,
David Ryan
Minister of Information and Culture
Crumbling Empire Productions
(212) 247-0296
As I said before, I've got the West 105 resin, I've got the 206
hardner, I've got the 406 colloidal silica thickener, I've even got a
bunch of very informative WestSystem literature.
What I don't have is a sense of what volume of goop I need to mix up
to glue together a particular surface area.
If any of you have a "rules of thumb" for the volume of epoxy needed
per square foot, or square meter (I'll convert) I'd be very
appreciative.
YIBB,
David Ryan
Minister of Information and Culture
Crumbling Empire Productions
(212) 247-0296