[bolger] Re: SheetRock Screw Clamping
BO>Wood "softening"? What's that?
BO>JB
about a 1" square of scrap 1/4" ply so the wallboard screw doesn't
countersink itself into your nice ply. Same reason as for using
softening between clamp/vice jaws and wood
Tim & FT2
BO>JB
about a 1" square of scrap 1/4" ply so the wallboard screw doesn't
countersink itself into your nice ply. Same reason as for using
softening between clamp/vice jaws and wood
Tim & FT2
But a question: Do you have to make
BO>any special preparation,
just drill the pilot hole in the right place
or is there any critical timing for removing
BO>the screws?
after the epoxy has set
BO> Is there a risk of them being glued in place?
If you're using wood softening as you should be, the softening
occasionally partly glues (from glue pushed out of joints
Or do you
BO>just screw everything down tight, let the glue cure, and then back
BO>'em out?
Yes. Screw itself doesn't really glue.
Seehttp://www.ace.net.au/schooner/newtech.htm
Note that the few sheetrock (wallboard) screws used to build the nymph
were pressed into service with a new packet to build the Light Schooner
and are still in use as clamps in refitting and rebuilding the interior
of an AS29, and are still available for the next (shoebox)
Tim & FLying Tadpole
BO>any special preparation,
just drill the pilot hole in the right place
or is there any critical timing for removing
BO>the screws?
after the epoxy has set
BO> Is there a risk of them being glued in place?
If you're using wood softening as you should be, the softening
occasionally partly glues (from glue pushed out of joints
Or do you
BO>just screw everything down tight, let the glue cure, and then back
BO>'em out?
Yes. Screw itself doesn't really glue.
Seehttp://www.ace.net.au/schooner/newtech.htm
Note that the few sheetrock (wallboard) screws used to build the nymph
were pressed into service with a new packet to build the Light Schooner
and are still in use as clamps in refitting and rebuilding the interior
of an AS29, and are still available for the next (shoebox)
Tim & FLying Tadpole
Good idea. Would have made filling the holes on mine quite a bit easier.
I believe they call that "padding" on this side of the equator.
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I believe they call that "padding" on this side of the equator.
tjfatchen@...wrote:
>--
> BO>Wood "softening"? What's that?
>
> BO>JB
>
> about a 1" square of scrap 1/4" ply so the wallboard screw doesn't
> countersink itself into your nice ply. Same reason as for using
> softening between clamp/vice jaws and wood
> Tim & FT2
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Tim wrote:
JB
> If you're using wood softening as you should be, the softeningWood "softening"? What's that?
> occasionally partly glues (from glue pushed out of joints
JB
I've used sheet rock screws before with both success and failure. My biggest
mistake was to try to reuse some. The first time you run them through an
epoxified joint, they get a very fine coat of epoxy on them. This doesn't
seem to affect your ability to remove them later. The trouble seems to be if
you try to re-use them. They can glue themselves into the wood so tightly
the heads break off when you try to remove them. I think the primer coat of
epoxy has something to do with this, but it is not proven by any real
experimentation.
I now spray all screws with a liberal coat of WD-40 (oil) when using them
for clamps.
John Bell
Kennesaw, GA
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mistake was to try to reuse some. The first time you run them through an
epoxified joint, they get a very fine coat of epoxy on them. This doesn't
seem to affect your ability to remove them later. The trouble seems to be if
you try to re-use them. They can glue themselves into the wood so tightly
the heads break off when you try to remove them. I think the primer coat of
epoxy has something to do with this, but it is not proven by any real
experimentation.
I now spray all screws with a liberal coat of WD-40 (oil) when using them
for clamps.
John Bell
Kennesaw, GA
jmbell@...
http://jmbell.home.mindspring.com
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Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 11:44 AM
Subject: [bolger] SheetRock Screw Clamping
> FBBB --
>
> I really really like this idea. But a question: Do you have to make
> any special preparation, or is there any critical timing for removing
> the screws? Is there a risk of them being glued in place? Or do you
> just screw everything down tight, let the glue cure, and then back
> 'em out?
>
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Hi,
I've found screws CAN get glued in with the epoxy, so I now spray them with
a little WD40 before I use them for this purpose. No trouble since I
started doing this.
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Date: 21 December 1999 17:49
Subject: [bolger] Re: SheetRock Screw Clamping
I've found screws CAN get glued in with the epoxy, so I now spray them with
a little WD40 before I use them for this purpose. No trouble since I
started doing this.
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From: Robert N. Lundy <robert@...>
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Date: 21 December 1999 17:49
Subject: [bolger] Re: SheetRock Screw Clamping
>Check the Light Schooner site for info. I thought they had to come outand
>before the epoxy set, but TJ says no. But I had to use up some of the
>expensive bronze nails I bought anyway. Apparently, many are using epoxy
>only to hold the boat together. I've epoxied and nailed, thinking "belt
>suspenders" so far.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David Ryan [mailto:david@...]
>> Sent: 21 December, 1999 11:44 AM
>> To:bolger@egroups.com
>> Subject: [bolger] SheetRock Screw Clamping
>>
>>
>> FBBB --
>>
>> I really really like this idea. But a question: Do you have to make
>> any special preparation, or is there any critical timing for removing
>> the screws? Is there a risk of them being glued in place? Or do you
>> just screw everything down tight, let the glue cure, and then back
>> 'em out?
>>
>> YIBB,
>>
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I've done both. I've left them in and used a 4 inch grinder to take the
ends down, and removed them and filled the holes.
They remove pretty easy, even if they are epoxied in place. Epoxy is strong, but not strong enough to stop a drywall screw from being unscrewed with a drill.
I like them much better than staples or nails. No hammering as with nails, and they pull the work together nice and tight.
In high visibility/will be wet spots, I've screwed in stainless drywall screws and left them in place. A file works great at taking down any protrusions. The grinder just gets clogged up.
No special preparation needed, though you need to stay clear of the ends to avoid splitting, and use other methods or pre-drill on anything smaller than a 1x2.
David Ryan wrote:
FBBB --
I really really like this idea. But a question: Do you have to make
any special preparation, or is there any critical timing for removing
the screws? Is there a risk of them being glued in place? Or do you
just screw everything down tight, let the glue cure, and then back
'em out?
YIBB,
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Minister of Information and Culture
Crumbling Empire Productions
(212) 247-0296
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Check the Light Schooner site for info. I thought they had to come out
before the epoxy set, but TJ says no. But I had to use up some of the
expensive bronze nails I bought anyway. Apparently, many are using epoxy
only to hold the boat together. I've epoxied and nailed, thinking "belt and
suspenders" so far.
before the epoxy set, but TJ says no. But I had to use up some of the
expensive bronze nails I bought anyway. Apparently, many are using epoxy
only to hold the boat together. I've epoxied and nailed, thinking "belt and
suspenders" so far.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Ryan [mailto:david@...]
> Sent: 21 December, 1999 11:44 AM
> To:bolger@egroups.com
> Subject: [bolger] SheetRock Screw Clamping
>
>
> FBBB --
>
> I really really like this idea. But a question: Do you have to make
> any special preparation, or is there any critical timing for removing
> the screws? Is there a risk of them being glued in place? Or do you
> just screw everything down tight, let the glue cure, and then back
> 'em out?
>
> YIBB,
>
> David Ryan
> Minister of Information and Culture
> Crumbling Empire Productions
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Right, just back them out anytime, or leave them. There are also s.s. deck
screws available.
Gregg C.
At 11:44 AM 12/21/99 -0500, you wrote:
screws available.
Gregg C.
At 11:44 AM 12/21/99 -0500, you wrote:
>FBBB --
>
>I really really like this idea. But a question: Do you have to make
>any special preparation, or is there any critical timing for removing
>the screws? Is there a risk of them being glued in place? Or do you
>just screw everything down tight, let the glue cure, and then back
>'em out?
>
>YIBB,
>
>David Ryan
>Minister of Information and Culture
>Crumbling Empire Productions
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FBBB --
I really really like this idea. But a question: Do you have to make
any special preparation, or is there any critical timing for removing
the screws? Is there a risk of them being glued in place? Or do you
just screw everything down tight, let the glue cure, and then back
'em out?
YIBB,
David Ryan
Minister of Information and Culture
Crumbling Empire Productions
(212) 247-0296
I really really like this idea. But a question: Do you have to make
any special preparation, or is there any critical timing for removing
the screws? Is there a risk of them being glued in place? Or do you
just screw everything down tight, let the glue cure, and then back
'em out?
YIBB,
David Ryan
Minister of Information and Culture
Crumbling Empire Productions
(212) 247-0296