[bolger] Re: More Opinions About Light Schooner
BO>No, Tim, we'll proceed as before, but I'll have to start sending you those
BO>Canadians $ if you give me a hard time! ;-}
Anything but NZ$ and I'm still ahead ;->
Tim & FT2
(oops... sorry Don... :-(
BO>Canadians $ if you give me a hard time! ;-}
Anything but NZ$ and I'm still ahead ;->
Tim & FT2
(oops... sorry Don... :-(
No, Tim, we'll proceed as before, but I'll have to start sending you those
Canadians $ if you give me a hard time! ;-}
I never could right my old Nacra alone; *might* get the L.S. back up, I
don't know. Anyway, I don't sail these kinds of boats in cold water; we're
in agreement there.
Gregg
At 02:32 AM 12/22/99 -0800, you wrote:
Canadians $ if you give me a hard time! ;-}
I never could right my old Nacra alone; *might* get the L.S. back up, I
don't know. Anyway, I don't sail these kinds of boats in cold water; we're
in agreement there.
Gregg
At 02:32 AM 12/22/99 -0800, you wrote:
>> - I have almost no skills in boatbuilding or even in simply reading
>plans.
>> That is why I find the Carlson Schooner site so informative. I can
>see the
>> boat being built!
>
>Which is also why I promote it, quite heavily in fact (tho' I s'pose
>those ten buck notes you keep mailing me will now dry up, Gregg :-)
Mike,
Sounds good. Reading you note made me think of Xnole which would take the
place of fiberglass, and regular fiberglass resin rather than epoxy for
applying it when you must, and maybe you could keep from bothering that
neighbor.
Chuck.
Sounds good. Reading you note made me think of Xnole which would take the
place of fiberglass, and regular fiberglass resin rather than epoxy for
applying it when you must, and maybe you could keep from bothering that
neighbor.
Chuck.
> I didn't meant to stir up any controversy regarding Light Schooner orDon't let it worry you!
> modifying any Bolger boat. But since I did, here is my two cents:
> - I have almost no skills in boatbuilding or even in simply readingplans.
> That is why I find the Carlson Schooner site so informative. I cansee the
> boat being built!Which is also why I promote it, quite heavily in fact (tho' I s'pose
those ten buck notes you keep mailing me will now dry up, Gregg :-)
> - I, in fact, live in Olympia, Wa. and have sailed my Windsprint inPuget
> Sound. Not too far from shore, mind you. I want a boat I can build,sail
> alone or with a maximum of four, that won't easily capsize but if itdoes, is
> easily recovered.Mike, the controversy arises over the solo sailing and easy recovery.
Here are two tales each involving capsizes:
http://www.ace.net.au/schooner/ftgm.htm
http://www.ace.net.au/schooner/swamp.htm
despite the light-hearted writing style, neither of the two events were
light-hearted at the time. The second one ended up with ambulances,
hospitals, newspaper reports, everything but the television and the
rescue helicopter... It's worth examining the areas, conditions, crew,
what the boat was doing at the time (apart from gung-ho racing) and
retrieval problems, then thinking about where you're going to be
sailing, in what conditions, how far out and the chances of getting
caught by something unexpected.
I'm trying at the moment to source a nice photo of Lake Alexandrina in
a moderate wind (say, approaching 25 knots) to get a sense across of
what we do and where, and why a degree of stodginess is necessary to
counter the desire to hurl oneself and one's boat at maximum speed into
the elements! I'll put it in with our cruising grounds' description at
http://www.ace.net.au/schooner/mlakes.htmwhen I get permission.
> comfortable in the boat. I would like to be able to stand up in theboat as I
> see people standing up in the LIght Schooner.Just check the "sea" conditions in those photos where people are
standing up :)
It is a virtue on landing or setting forth, I agree
>I would like the boat to beAgain, LS is this if there are 2-3 of you. Bit slow if only one. Why
> easily and quickly rigged and trailered.
not consider sticking with the windsprint as your solo boat? and LS as
your family/group/friends boat?
Tim & Flying Tadpole
Well,
I didn't meant to stir up any controversy regarding Light Schooner or
modifying any Bolger boat. But since I did, here is my two cents:
- I bought the plans for Windsprint from Payson, built the boat as best I
could and I added decks and I have messed around with the rig.
- I bought a set of plans for Oldshoe from CSD or whatever they are. I
thought I was buying authorized plans, sorry if they are not.
- I haven't built Oldshoe yet, but from studying the plans, I would not make
any modifications.
- I think once you buy the plans, the act of building the boat makes it
yours. Do what you want with it.
- I have almost no skills in boatbuilding or even in simply reading plans.
That is why I find the Carlson Schooner site so informative. I can see the
boat being built!
- I, in fact, live in Olympia, Wa. and have sailed my Windsprint in Puget
Sound. Not too far from shore, mind you. I want a boat I can build, sail
alone or with a maximum of four, that won't easily capsize but if it does, is
easily recovered. I don't need overnight accomodations. I would like to be
comfortable in the boat. I would like to be able to stand up in the boat as I
see people standing up in the LIght Schooner. I would like the boat to be
easily and quickly rigged and trailered. The boat does not have to "thunder
through the water at jet like speed." I would like to use an electric motor
to power the boat home if necessary.
- I'm allergic to epoxy so I don't want to use it or fiberglass. If I have
to, I get my nonallergic neighbor to apply the stuff.
- I respect Phil Bolger and friends and I will direct my business directly
with them in the future. Perhaps someone will have an idea of which of Phil's
designs would be perfect for me.
- Whew!
Mike Masten
I didn't meant to stir up any controversy regarding Light Schooner or
modifying any Bolger boat. But since I did, here is my two cents:
- I bought the plans for Windsprint from Payson, built the boat as best I
could and I added decks and I have messed around with the rig.
- I bought a set of plans for Oldshoe from CSD or whatever they are. I
thought I was buying authorized plans, sorry if they are not.
- I haven't built Oldshoe yet, but from studying the plans, I would not make
any modifications.
- I think once you buy the plans, the act of building the boat makes it
yours. Do what you want with it.
- I have almost no skills in boatbuilding or even in simply reading plans.
That is why I find the Carlson Schooner site so informative. I can see the
boat being built!
- I, in fact, live in Olympia, Wa. and have sailed my Windsprint in Puget
Sound. Not too far from shore, mind you. I want a boat I can build, sail
alone or with a maximum of four, that won't easily capsize but if it does, is
easily recovered. I don't need overnight accomodations. I would like to be
comfortable in the boat. I would like to be able to stand up in the boat as I
see people standing up in the LIght Schooner. I would like the boat to be
easily and quickly rigged and trailered. The boat does not have to "thunder
through the water at jet like speed." I would like to use an electric motor
to power the boat home if necessary.
- I'm allergic to epoxy so I don't want to use it or fiberglass. If I have
to, I get my nonallergic neighbor to apply the stuff.
- I respect Phil Bolger and friends and I will direct my business directly
with them in the future. Perhaps someone will have an idea of which of Phil's
designs would be perfect for me.
- Whew!
Mike Masten