Re: Design Choice
Sorry for the repost, but I just realized I broke the thread
--- In bolger@y..., "Bruce Coho" <abcoho@n...> wrote:
> I've been thinking along slightly different lines.......
>
> <snip>
> > thought it would really simplify bolting the two stern to stern
for a
> > schooner, without the added storage section shown in BWOM.
> >
> > Thinking about it now, imagine two of these schooners with a deck
> > between them...a 16x16 catamaran...or add an additional 8 foot
straight
> > section in each schooner to make them 24 feet long, and deck them
over
> > for water tightness. One or two masts (or one in each corner!)
with a
> > hard deck...what a party boat!
> >
> > Brick Mania!
> >
> > Curtis in /\/\onTana, at least one Brick Shyvaload! {!-{P
> <snip>
>
> What is made of Bricks and Grout? A Brick Wall! I have recently
been
> mulling over a concept that might work. It would require four
Bricks ( 2
> leeboard/mast on port side and two leeboard/mast on the
starboardside) and
> two Grouts (one leeboard right, one left). It would also require a
separate
> center section ( what would you call it, a Strongback?) perhaps
made out of
> 2x4's or 2x6's.
>
> The leeboard slots would be used to connect the four bricks and
grouts to
> the center with modified leeboard sections that do not go below the
boat.
> It would probably need framing to hold the 2 bows and 2 sterns and
possibly
> the center grouts, firmly in place. In the center section would
either be
> slots for some or all of the leeboards for lateral resistance or
possibly a
> centerboard mechanism.
>
> The center section would be flush with the sterns,bottoms and bows,
and
> extend past the bows forming a bowsprit supported by a dolphin
striker chain
> or cable. The masts would be in the center section with a full
blown
> schooner rig, possibly taken from the Gentleman's Schooner or a
Scooner.
> Definitely need a staysail, just because...!
>
> A Scow Schooner and an instant sailing program! four Bricks for
racing, two
> Brick/Grout combo's to teach cooperation and a Brick Wall to go on
extended
> sailing /camping expeditions! As the total waterline length could
be around
> 18 feet in a breeze, it should move nicely. Will also fit in
pieces onto a
> cheepo flat trailer, maybe from a lanscaper?
>
> The whole unit should be relatively easy to assemble/dis-assemble if
> designed right, there are a few people around, and you don't forget
your
> tool box. This is not a single-hander! One Brick could be
designated the
> head/storage area and with clever use of tarp could be enclosed and
usable
> even while sailing, thereby making long trips and overnights more
> comfortable for daughters and wives. Tarps over the booms could
protect you
> from the rain. Simple floorboard units could make sure you don't
ruin your
> back while sleeping on inflatable mattresses.
>
> Obviously this concept is still a little half-baked, but I think it
is
> definitely doable with some good advice on sail/mast placement,
> daggerboard/centerboard area, and sail area. I would want some
advice on
> the physics of the mechanical connections. Think Phil might be
interested?
>
> Oh well....I throw this idea out into the group.
>
> Brickmania in West Chester PA
>
> Bruce Coho and the mighty Brick "Thickasa"
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
I've been thinking along slightly different lines.......
<snip>
What is made of Bricks and Grout? A Brick Wall! I have recently been
mulling over a concept that might work. It would require four Bricks ( 2
leeboard/mast on port side and two leeboard/mast on the starboardside) and
two Grouts (one leeboard right, one left). It would also require a separate
center section ( what would you call it, a Strongback?) perhaps made out of
2x4's or 2x6's.
The leeboard slots would be used to connect the four bricks and grouts to
the center with modified leeboard sections that do not go below the boat.
It would probably need framing to hold the 2 bows and 2 sterns and possibly
the center grouts, firmly in place. In the center section would either be
slots for some or all of the leeboards for lateral resistance or possibly a
centerboard mechanism.
The center section would be flush with the sterns,bottoms and bows, and
extend past the bows forming a bowsprit supported by a dolphin striker chain
or cable. The masts would be in the center section with a full blown
schooner rig, possibly taken from the Gentleman's Schooner or a Scooner.
Definitely need a staysail, just because...!
A Scow Schooner and an instant sailing program! four Bricks for racing, two
Brick/Grout combo's to teach cooperation and a Brick Wall to go on extended
sailing /camping expeditions! As the total waterline length could be around
18 feet in a breeze, it should move nicely. Will also fit in pieces onto a
cheepo flat trailer, maybe from a lanscaper?
The whole unit should be relatively easy to assemble/dis-assemble if
designed right, there are a few people around, and you don't forget your
tool box. This is not a single-hander! One Brick could be designated the
head/storage area and with clever use of tarp could be enclosed and usable
even while sailing, thereby making long trips and overnights more
comfortable for daughters and wives. Tarps over the booms could protect you
from the rain. Simple floorboard units could make sure you don't ruin your
back while sleeping on inflatable mattresses.
Obviously this concept is still a little half-baked, but I think it is
definitely doable with some good advice on sail/mast placement,
daggerboard/centerboard area, and sail area. I would want some advice on
the physics of the mechanical connections. Think Phil might be interested?
Oh well....I throw this idea out into the group.
Brickmania in West Chester PA
Bruce Coho and the mighty Brick "Thickasa"
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<snip>
> thought it would really simplify bolting the two stern to stern for a<snip>
> schooner, without the added storage section shown in BWOM.
>
> Thinking about it now, imagine two of these schooners with a deck
> between them...a 16x16 catamaran...or add an additional 8 foot straight
> section in each schooner to make them 24 feet long, and deck them over
> for water tightness. One or two masts (or one in each corner!) with a
> hard deck...what a party boat!
>
> Brick Mania!
>
> Curtis in /\/\onTana, at least one Brick Shyvaload! {!-{P
What is made of Bricks and Grout? A Brick Wall! I have recently been
mulling over a concept that might work. It would require four Bricks ( 2
leeboard/mast on port side and two leeboard/mast on the starboardside) and
two Grouts (one leeboard right, one left). It would also require a separate
center section ( what would you call it, a Strongback?) perhaps made out of
2x4's or 2x6's.
The leeboard slots would be used to connect the four bricks and grouts to
the center with modified leeboard sections that do not go below the boat.
It would probably need framing to hold the 2 bows and 2 sterns and possibly
the center grouts, firmly in place. In the center section would either be
slots for some or all of the leeboards for lateral resistance or possibly a
centerboard mechanism.
The center section would be flush with the sterns,bottoms and bows, and
extend past the bows forming a bowsprit supported by a dolphin striker chain
or cable. The masts would be in the center section with a full blown
schooner rig, possibly taken from the Gentleman's Schooner or a Scooner.
Definitely need a staysail, just because...!
A Scow Schooner and an instant sailing program! four Bricks for racing, two
Brick/Grout combo's to teach cooperation and a Brick Wall to go on extended
sailing /camping expeditions! As the total waterline length could be around
18 feet in a breeze, it should move nicely. Will also fit in pieces onto a
cheepo flat trailer, maybe from a lanscaper?
The whole unit should be relatively easy to assemble/dis-assemble if
designed right, there are a few people around, and you don't forget your
tool box. This is not a single-hander! One Brick could be designated the
head/storage area and with clever use of tarp could be enclosed and usable
even while sailing, thereby making long trips and overnights more
comfortable for daughters and wives. Tarps over the booms could protect you
from the rain. Simple floorboard units could make sure you don't ruin your
back while sleeping on inflatable mattresses.
Obviously this concept is still a little half-baked, but I think it is
definitely doable with some good advice on sail/mast placement,
daggerboard/centerboard area, and sail area. I would want some advice on
the physics of the mechanical connections. Think Phil might be interested?
Oh well....I throw this idea out into the group.
Brickmania in West Chester PA
Bruce Coho and the mighty Brick "Thickasa"
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