Re: Spartina
Thaks Mike Murray. A real lovely boat, possibly also stable enough for an old man with bad back???
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Murray" <mjm@...> wrote:
>
> Bruce,Thanks for that isometric. I will add this to my file on Spartina.I have the protype of Spartina that was built by David Montgomery in 1992 at his Montgomery boat yard. I talked to David as I was doing the major restoration. He said that he built her from scrapes from the yard and that it wasn't meant to last. When I found her here in Charleston, S.C. the bottom was gone the bench seats were rotten and she had several softball size holes in the sides.After a two restoration and a lot of documentation she has been brought back from the grave and upgraded to her present glory. I talked to Phil when I bought the plans for the rebuild and he wrote back that he had sailed her when she was in Gloucester and liked her very much. She is the boat shown in BOWM. Here are a few pictures from the 21st annual boat show in Georgetown S.C. this past Oct. Now that the weather is getting better I plan to get her out in the harbor soon. Will get some more photos of her under sail. Thanks., Mike Murray
>
Bruce,Thanks for that isometric. I will add this to
my file on Spartina.I have the protype of Spartina that was built by David
Montgomery in 1992 at his Montgomery boat yard. I talked to David as I was
doing the major restoration. He said that he built her from scrapes from the
yard and that it wasn't meant to last. When I found her here in Charleston, S.C.
the bottom was gone the bench seats were rotten and she had several
softball size holes in the sides.After a two restoration and a lot of
documentation she has been brought back from the grave and upgraded to her
present glory. I talked to Phil when I bought the plans for the rebuild and he
wrote back that he had sailed her when she was in Gloucester and liked her very
much. She is the boat shown in BOWM. Here are a few pictures from the
21st annual boat show in Georgetown S.C. this past Oct. Now that the weather is
getting better I plan to get her out in the harbor soon. Will get some more
photos of her under sail. Thanks., Mike Murray
Bruce, Thanks for the post. I am currently rebuilding a spartina that David Montgomery built in 1992. Mike Charleston, S.C.
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From: Bruce Hallman
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 5:36 PM
Subject: [bolger] Spartina
Maybe this is old news, but these French photos of a Bolger Spartina
are new to me...
http://picasaweb.google.fr/ByronBennett53/BuildingSpartina#
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That's pretty much how it's always been done. Slapping in lots of
thin frames for later riveting is said to go pretty quickly. With my
all thumbs carpentry, I know that would be easier than joggling sawn
frames the way it's sometimes done -especially before a full size
lining off. (I've got plans for a Herreschoff kayak done that way,
but the drawings are very detailed )
Looks like Byron took a good route by taping in plain edge frames.
Mark ( still aiming at that no eskimo rolling Bolger Diamond )
thin frames for later riveting is said to go pretty quickly. With my
all thumbs carpentry, I know that would be easier than joggling sawn
frames the way it's sometimes done -especially before a full size
lining off. (I've got plans for a Herreschoff kayak done that way,
but the drawings are very detailed )
Looks like Byron took a good route by taping in plain edge frames.
Mark ( still aiming at that no eskimo rolling Bolger Diamond )
On Jan 10, 2009, at 3:53 PM, Bruce Hallman wrote:
> I find it mind boggling that he straked up the hull, and then added
> the frames. Who am I to talk, but I would have put up the frames on a
> strongback, and then fit on the strakes.
>
> Regardless, it makes me realize again just how achievable curvy boats
> can be using lapstakes.
>
>
Bruce,
Check out this video:http://cultureincontext.org/hankins_seabrightskiff.php
V/R
Chris
Bruce Hallman wrote:
Check out this video:http://cultureincontext.org/hankins_seabrightskiff.php
V/R
Chris
Bruce Hallman wrote:
> I find it mind boggling that he straked up the hull, and then added[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> the frames. Who am I to talk, but I would have put up the frames on a
> strongback, and then fit on the strakes.
>
>
I find it mind boggling that he straked up the hull, and then added
the frames. Who am I to talk, but I would have put up the frames on a
strongback, and then fit on the strakes.
Regardless, it makes me realize again just how achievable curvy boats
can be using lapstakes.
the frames. Who am I to talk, but I would have put up the frames on a
strongback, and then fit on the strakes.
Regardless, it makes me realize again just how achievable curvy boats
can be using lapstakes.
On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Harry James <welshman@...> wrote:
> This guy was over limit on his fun card both in building and sailing.
> Pics like that will get you away from the TV and NFL playoffs and into
> the shop.
>
> HJ
This guy was over limit on his fun card both in building and sailing.
Pics like that will get you away from the TV and NFL playoffs and into
the shop.
HJ
Bruce Hallman wrote:
Pics like that will get you away from the TV and NFL playoffs and into
the shop.
HJ
Bruce Hallman wrote:
> Maybe this is old news, but these French photos of a Bolger Spartina
> are new to me...
>
>http://picasaweb.google.fr/ByronBennett53/BuildingSpartina#
>
>
>
Maybe this is old news, but these French photos of a Bolger Spartina
are new to me...
http://picasaweb.google.fr/ByronBennett53/BuildingSpartina#
are new to me...
http://picasaweb.google.fr/ByronBennett53/BuildingSpartina#
Excuse me, everyone. Sorry to interrupt.
Hi Thomas, I tried to e-mail you and got an error message. You can
reach me atstephen@...
Thanks! Stephen
Hi Thomas, I tried to e-mail you and got an error message. You can
reach me atstephen@...
Thanks! Stephen
--- In bolger@y..., thomas dalzell <proaconstrictor@y...> wrote:
> Steve,
>
> Can you email me re Houseboat, I deleted your emails
> by mistake.
>
> Thanks,
>
> TD
>
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Steve,
Can you email me re Houseboat, I deleted your emails
by mistake.
Thanks,
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Dear Mike,
thank you for forwarding the information on the MJ
updates, and what a lovely card!
One thing about Bolger as part of a household is that
the plan prices have certainly gone up! $50 for an
update required because he didn't do stability numbers
is an interesting approach to product liability.
Of course I am joking. His plans have always been
under-priced, and now that I know what we are talking
about I will gladly request this update if I get
closer to building.
Right now I have asked him about the 34' progenitor of
Eeek, which is a shapely box as such things go. If
that doesn't work out, back to MJ.
Again, thank you very much for your welcome mail.
Thomas Dalzell
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thank you for forwarding the information on the MJ
updates, and what a lovely card!
One thing about Bolger as part of a household is that
the plan prices have certainly gone up! $50 for an
update required because he didn't do stability numbers
is an interesting approach to product liability.
Of course I am joking. His plans have always been
under-priced, and now that I know what we are talking
about I will gladly request this update if I get
closer to building.
Right now I have asked him about the 34' progenitor of
Eeek, which is a shapely box as such things go. If
that doesn't work out, back to MJ.
Again, thank you very much for your welcome mail.
Thomas Dalzell
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Iain Oughtred probably deserves the reputation he has
for popularising the glued lap boat. He was there at
just the right time as regards Wooden Boat, where he
did a certain amount of writing in the early days.
For most of the types of boat that WB has "supported"
there are usually any number of other makers who might
just as easily been chosen. There was some grumbling
for instance when WB sellected the Wood's effort for
their only catamaran, despite their close association
with any number of stateside luminaries in that field.
The advert for Bolger are the boats. I remember
spending some time at the Wooden Boat School, one of
the perks of which is the opportunity to try out their
fleet of small boats. There were a number that I had
wanted to try building, at that time several,
including a lovely fairing like double ender, were
glue lap. The best rowing boat of the whole fleet,
bar the shells, was the Bolger Dory. The best rowing
dingy was someone's bolger Nymph. Now these boats
where not perfect, the nymph is tippy, which could be
difficult under certain circumstances, and weather
conditions. The dory is also tippy, though very
seaworthy. The competitors' were some beautiful
boats, and I guess the dory isn't a box, but if I had
to row accross a bay for my groceries, I know which
boat I would choose.
Hi Bob: It is a peculiar shame that designs like
Spartina have not <BR>
received more attention. Traditional boatees ooh
and aah about how <BR>
Iain Oughtred applies "an artist's touch to his
light lapstrake <BR>
creations" (I'm quoting Woodenboat there) and
many boats have been <BR>
built to his designs. Spartina is every bit as
lovely as anything <BR>
Oughtred's done. The problem, I suppose, is
partly Bolger's <BR>
reputation as the unconventional designer of square
boats <BR>
and "curiosities" like the folding schooner,
and partly the fact that <BR>
neither Bolger nor anyone else has actively promoted
designs like <BR>
Spartina.<BR>
<BR>
I hang out with some traditional wooden boat types at
the Alexandria <BR>
Seaport Foundation, and when I mentioned Bolger to one
fellow he <BR>
sneered: "If I'm going to build a boat, I want it
to look like a <BR>
boat!" Had I shown him the lines for
Spartina right then and there, <BR>
he would have been forced to take it back.<BR>
<BR>
Steve Paskey<BR>
Washington, DC<BR>
<BR>
<
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for popularising the glued lap boat. He was there at
just the right time as regards Wooden Boat, where he
did a certain amount of writing in the early days.
For most of the types of boat that WB has "supported"
there are usually any number of other makers who might
just as easily been chosen. There was some grumbling
for instance when WB sellected the Wood's effort for
their only catamaran, despite their close association
with any number of stateside luminaries in that field.
The advert for Bolger are the boats. I remember
spending some time at the Wooden Boat School, one of
the perks of which is the opportunity to try out their
fleet of small boats. There were a number that I had
wanted to try building, at that time several,
including a lovely fairing like double ender, were
glue lap. The best rowing boat of the whole fleet,
bar the shells, was the Bolger Dory. The best rowing
dingy was someone's bolger Nymph. Now these boats
where not perfect, the nymph is tippy, which could be
difficult under certain circumstances, and weather
conditions. The dory is also tippy, though very
seaworthy. The competitors' were some beautiful
boats, and I guess the dory isn't a box, but if I had
to row accross a bay for my groceries, I know which
boat I would choose.
Hi Bob: It is a peculiar shame that designs like
Spartina have not <BR>
received more attention. Traditional boatees ooh
and aah about how <BR>
Iain Oughtred applies "an artist's touch to his
light lapstrake <BR>
creations" (I'm quoting Woodenboat there) and
many boats have been <BR>
built to his designs. Spartina is every bit as
lovely as anything <BR>
Oughtred's done. The problem, I suppose, is
partly Bolger's <BR>
reputation as the unconventional designer of square
boats <BR>
and "curiosities" like the folding schooner,
and partly the fact that <BR>
neither Bolger nor anyone else has actively promoted
designs like <BR>
Spartina.<BR>
<BR>
I hang out with some traditional wooden boat types at
the Alexandria <BR>
Seaport Foundation, and when I mentioned Bolger to one
fellow he <BR>
sneered: "If I'm going to build a boat, I want it
to look like a <BR>
boat!" Had I shown him the lines for
Spartina right then and there, <BR>
he would have been forced to take it back.<BR>
<BR>
Steve Paskey<BR>
Washington, DC<BR>
<BR>
<
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Hi Bob: It is a peculiar shame that designs like Spartina have not
received more attention. Traditional boatees ooh and aah about how
Iain Oughtred applies "an artist's touch to his light lapstrake
creations" (I'm quoting Woodenboat there) and many boats have been
built to his designs. Spartina is every bit as lovely as anything
Oughtred's done. The problem, I suppose, is partly Bolger's
reputation as the unconventional designer of square boats
and "curiosities" like the folding schooner, and partly the fact that
neither Bolger nor anyone else has actively promoted designs like
Spartina.
I hang out with some traditional wooden boat types at the Alexandria
Seaport Foundation, and when I mentioned Bolger to one fellow he
sneered: "If I'm going to build a boat, I want it to look like a
boat!" Had I shown him the lines for Spartina right then and there,
he would have been forced to take it back.
Steve Paskey
Washington, DC
received more attention. Traditional boatees ooh and aah about how
Iain Oughtred applies "an artist's touch to his light lapstrake
creations" (I'm quoting Woodenboat there) and many boats have been
built to his designs. Spartina is every bit as lovely as anything
Oughtred's done. The problem, I suppose, is partly Bolger's
reputation as the unconventional designer of square boats
and "curiosities" like the folding schooner, and partly the fact that
neither Bolger nor anyone else has actively promoted designs like
Spartina.
I hang out with some traditional wooden boat types at the Alexandria
Seaport Foundation, and when I mentioned Bolger to one fellow he
sneered: "If I'm going to build a boat, I want it to look like a
boat!" Had I shown him the lines for Spartina right then and there,
he would have been forced to take it back.
Steve Paskey
Washington, DC
--- In bolger@y..., cha62759@t... wrote:
> Hi David,
> Spartina is indeed a lovely boat. Of course Chebacco is an
overnighter and Spartina is a daysailer so one has to decide what one
really wants to do. I was corresponding with Mr Bolger about another
matter: among other things he said re Spartina "...also pleasant to
sail but so far having generated practically no interest.". I can't
imagine why the lack of interest, it seems to me a great boat. . .
where can i see a picturer of the spartine on the internet?
jan favié
the netherlands
jan favié
the netherlands
----- Original Message -----
From:cha62759@...
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 4:38 PM
Subject: [bolger] Re: Spartina
Hi David,
Spartina is indeed a lovely boat. Of course Chebacco is an
overnighter
and Spartina is a daysailer so one has to decide what one really
wants
to do. I was corresponding with Mr Bolger about another matter: among
other things he said re Spartina "...also pleasant to sail but so far
having generated practically no interest.". I can't imagine why the
lack of interest, it seems to me a great boat. The clinker hull
requires decent material. It's pretty messy trying to plane cheap
plywood for the laps and for all the work it seems a shame to use
junk. When I bought the plans I mentioned to Mr Bolger that I had
John
Leather's book on clinker construction and also Walter Simmons 2
volume set. Mr Bolger countered that I would probably find Iain
Oughtred's "Clinker Plywood Boatbuilding Manual" more helpful. Having
picked that up too I would say he is right about that also.
--- In bolger@y..., dnbdnb8@e... wrote:
> I bought a set of plans for Spartina this summer and was ready to
> start when we decided to move. I didn't think a partially built
boat
> would be easy to move so have been a bit on hold. With the recent
> downturn in house sales, we may be here a bit longer. I am
thinking
> about getting started with lofting and building the station molds.
>
> I had been planning on building the lapstrake version of Chebacco
> until I read BWOM and fell in love with Spartina. One of the
things
> I liked about Chebacco was the active support of the fellow
Chebacco
> builders. There doesn't seem to be much of that for Spartina.
>
> Please keep me posted as you find other Spartina fans, etc.
>
> Regards,
>
> David Burnham
>
> --- In bolger@y..., PseudoDion3@a... wrote:
> > Hi, Bob.
> > Thanks for the offer. I had been going through BWOM again
when
> I
> > paid more attention to Spartina. I like the idea of sitting above
> the
> > deck on a boat and not in the bilges. I admit I love the
> Featherwind
> > design that I got from Dave Carnell, but I am looking for a day
> > sailer that does not require a motor to get home in when the wind
> > falls off.
> > I once thought that I would build Micro, but I have become
> quite
> > enamored with the open day sailer and it relative light
> construction.
> > If I get a real hankering to look more closely at the plans, I
will
> > give you a holler. I was hoping that someone here had experience
> with
> > the boat before I whetted my appetite much further.
> >
> > Warm Regards,
> >
> > Dennis Marshall
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In bolger@y..., cha62759@t... wrote:
> > > --- In bolger@y..., PseudoDion3@a... wrote:
> > > > Anyone on the list ever built and sailed "Spartina." Would
you
> > care
> > > > to comment on both building and sailing characteristics?
Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > Dennis Marshall
> > >
> > > Hi Dennis,
> > > I asked the same question some time ago and got no answer nor
is
> > there
> > > anything that I could find in old posts.
> > >
> > > I bought the plans and Ian Oughtred's book on glue lapstrake
> > > construction but in the end I decided that it was going to cost
> > $4,000
> > > or more to build and I already had enough invested in homemade
> > boats.
> > > I like the Spartina but I'm happy with my Typhoon and will
build
> > the
> > > smaller Bobcat someday. There was some information about
Spartina
> > > either in Small Boat Journal or Messing About in Boats. I'll
see
> > what
> > > I can find. If you have not purchased the plans yet I can loan
> you
> > > mine for look see.
> > >
> > > Bob Chamberland
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do you mean the AS-19?
http://mkstocks.tripod.com/boats/as19/
http://mkstocks.tripod.com/boats/as19/
--- In bolger@y..., thomas dalzell <proaconstrictor@y...> wrote:
> What do you all think of the AS18. Is it still being
> offered?
>
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Hi David,
Spartina is indeed a lovely boat. Of course Chebacco is an
overnighter
and Spartina is a daysailer so one has to decide what one really
wants
to do. I was corresponding with Mr Bolger about another matter: among
other things he said re Spartina "...also pleasant to sail but so far
having generated practically no interest.". I can't imagine why the
lack of interest, it seems to me a great boat. The clinker hull
requires decent material. It's pretty messy trying to plane cheap
plywood for the laps and for all the work it seems a shame to use
junk. When I bought the plans I mentioned to Mr Bolger that I had
John
Leather's book on clinker construction and also Walter Simmons 2
volume set. Mr Bolger countered that I would probably find Iain
Oughtred's "Clinker Plywood Boatbuilding Manual" more helpful. Having
picked that up too I would say he is right about that also.
Spartina is indeed a lovely boat. Of course Chebacco is an
overnighter
and Spartina is a daysailer so one has to decide what one really
wants
to do. I was corresponding with Mr Bolger about another matter: among
other things he said re Spartina "...also pleasant to sail but so far
having generated practically no interest.". I can't imagine why the
lack of interest, it seems to me a great boat. The clinker hull
requires decent material. It's pretty messy trying to plane cheap
plywood for the laps and for all the work it seems a shame to use
junk. When I bought the plans I mentioned to Mr Bolger that I had
John
Leather's book on clinker construction and also Walter Simmons 2
volume set. Mr Bolger countered that I would probably find Iain
Oughtred's "Clinker Plywood Boatbuilding Manual" more helpful. Having
picked that up too I would say he is right about that also.
--- In bolger@y..., dnbdnb8@e... wrote:
> I bought a set of plans for Spartina this summer and was ready to
> start when we decided to move. I didn't think a partially built
boat
> would be easy to move so have been a bit on hold. With the recent
> downturn in house sales, we may be here a bit longer. I am
thinking
> about getting started with lofting and building the station molds.
>
> I had been planning on building the lapstrake version of Chebacco
> until I read BWOM and fell in love with Spartina. One of the
things
> I liked about Chebacco was the active support of the fellow
Chebacco
> builders. There doesn't seem to be much of that for Spartina.
>
> Please keep me posted as you find other Spartina fans, etc.
>
> Regards,
>
> David Burnham
>
> --- In bolger@y..., PseudoDion3@a... wrote:
> > Hi, Bob.
> > Thanks for the offer. I had been going through BWOM again
when
> I
> > paid more attention to Spartina. I like the idea of sitting above
> the
> > deck on a boat and not in the bilges. I admit I love the
> Featherwind
> > design that I got from Dave Carnell, but I am looking for a day
> > sailer that does not require a motor to get home in when the wind
> > falls off.
> > I once thought that I would build Micro, but I have become
> quite
> > enamored with the open day sailer and it relative light
> construction.
> > If I get a real hankering to look more closely at the plans, I
will
> > give you a holler. I was hoping that someone here had experience
> with
> > the boat before I whetted my appetite much further.
> >
> > Warm Regards,
> >
> > Dennis Marshall
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In bolger@y..., cha62759@t... wrote:
> > > --- In bolger@y..., PseudoDion3@a... wrote:
> > > > Anyone on the list ever built and sailed "Spartina." Would
you
> > care
> > > > to comment on both building and sailing characteristics?
Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > Dennis Marshall
> > >
> > > Hi Dennis,
> > > I asked the same question some time ago and got no answer nor
is
> > there
> > > anything that I could find in old posts.
> > >
> > > I bought the plans and Ian Oughtred's book on glue lapstrake
> > > construction but in the end I decided that it was going to cost
> > $4,000
> > > or more to build and I already had enough invested in homemade
> > boats.
> > > I like the Spartina but I'm happy with my Typhoon and will
build
> > the
> > > smaller Bobcat someday. There was some information about
Spartina
> > > either in Small Boat Journal or Messing About in Boats. I'll
see
> > what
> > > I can find. If you have not purchased the plans yet I can loan
> you
> > > mine for look see.
> > >
> > > Bob Chamberland
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offered?
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I bought a set of plans for Spartina this summer and was ready to
start when we decided to move. I didn't think a partially built boat
would be easy to move so have been a bit on hold. With the recent
downturn in house sales, we may be here a bit longer. I am thinking
about getting started with lofting and building the station molds.
I had been planning on building the lapstrake version of Chebacco
until I read BWOM and fell in love with Spartina. One of the things
I liked about Chebacco was the active support of the fellow Chebacco
builders. There doesn't seem to be much of that for Spartina.
Please keep me posted as you find other Spartina fans, etc.
Regards,
David Burnham
start when we decided to move. I didn't think a partially built boat
would be easy to move so have been a bit on hold. With the recent
downturn in house sales, we may be here a bit longer. I am thinking
about getting started with lofting and building the station molds.
I had been planning on building the lapstrake version of Chebacco
until I read BWOM and fell in love with Spartina. One of the things
I liked about Chebacco was the active support of the fellow Chebacco
builders. There doesn't seem to be much of that for Spartina.
Please keep me posted as you find other Spartina fans, etc.
Regards,
David Burnham
--- In bolger@y..., PseudoDion3@a... wrote:
> Hi, Bob.
> Thanks for the offer. I had been going through BWOM again when
I
> paid more attention to Spartina. I like the idea of sitting above
the
> deck on a boat and not in the bilges. I admit I love the
Featherwind
> design that I got from Dave Carnell, but I am looking for a day
> sailer that does not require a motor to get home in when the wind
> falls off.
> I once thought that I would build Micro, but I have become
quite
> enamored with the open day sailer and it relative light
construction.
> If I get a real hankering to look more closely at the plans, I will
> give you a holler. I was hoping that someone here had experience
with
> the boat before I whetted my appetite much further.
>
> Warm Regards,
>
> Dennis Marshall
>
>
>
> --- In bolger@y..., cha62759@t... wrote:
> > --- In bolger@y..., PseudoDion3@a... wrote:
> > > Anyone on the list ever built and sailed "Spartina." Would you
> care
> > > to comment on both building and sailing characteristics? Thanks.
> > >
> > > Dennis Marshall
> >
> > Hi Dennis,
> > I asked the same question some time ago and got no answer nor is
> there
> > anything that I could find in old posts.
> >
> > I bought the plans and Ian Oughtred's book on glue lapstrake
> > construction but in the end I decided that it was going to cost
> $4,000
> > or more to build and I already had enough invested in homemade
> boats.
> > I like the Spartina but I'm happy with my Typhoon and will build
> the
> > smaller Bobcat someday. There was some information about Spartina
> > either in Small Boat Journal or Messing About in Boats. I'll see
> what
> > I can find. If you have not purchased the plans yet I can loan
you
> > mine for look see.
> >
> > Bob Chamberland
Hi, Bob.
Thanks for the offer. I had been going through BWOM again when I
paid more attention to Spartina. I like the idea of sitting above the
deck on a boat and not in the bilges. I admit I love the Featherwind
design that I got from Dave Carnell, but I am looking for a day
sailer that does not require a motor to get home in when the wind
falls off.
I once thought that I would build Micro, but I have become quite
enamored with the open day sailer and it relative light construction.
If I get a real hankering to look more closely at the plans, I will
give you a holler. I was hoping that someone here had experience with
the boat before I whetted my appetite much further.
Warm Regards,
Dennis Marshall
Thanks for the offer. I had been going through BWOM again when I
paid more attention to Spartina. I like the idea of sitting above the
deck on a boat and not in the bilges. I admit I love the Featherwind
design that I got from Dave Carnell, but I am looking for a day
sailer that does not require a motor to get home in when the wind
falls off.
I once thought that I would build Micro, but I have become quite
enamored with the open day sailer and it relative light construction.
If I get a real hankering to look more closely at the plans, I will
give you a holler. I was hoping that someone here had experience with
the boat before I whetted my appetite much further.
Warm Regards,
Dennis Marshall
--- In bolger@y..., cha62759@t... wrote:
> --- In bolger@y..., PseudoDion3@a... wrote:
> > Anyone on the list ever built and sailed "Spartina." Would you
care
> > to comment on both building and sailing characteristics? Thanks.
> >
> > Dennis Marshall
>
> Hi Dennis,
> I asked the same question some time ago and got no answer nor is
there
> anything that I could find in old posts.
>
> I bought the plans and Ian Oughtred's book on glue lapstrake
> construction but in the end I decided that it was going to cost
$4,000
> or more to build and I already had enough invested in homemade
boats.
> I like the Spartina but I'm happy with my Typhoon and will build
the
> smaller Bobcat someday. There was some information about Spartina
> either in Small Boat Journal or Messing About in Boats. I'll see
what
> I can find. If you have not purchased the plans yet I can loan you
> mine for look see.
>
> Bob Chamberland
--- In bolger@y..., PseudoDion3@a... wrote:
I asked the same question some time ago and got no answer nor is there
anything that I could find in old posts.
I bought the plans and Ian Oughtred's book on glue lapstrake
construction but in the end I decided that it was going to cost $4,000
or more to build and I already had enough invested in homemade boats.
I like the Spartina but I'm happy with my Typhoon and will build the
smaller Bobcat someday. There was some information about Spartina
either in Small Boat Journal or Messing About in Boats. I'll see what
I can find. If you have not purchased the plans yet I can loan you
mine for look see.
Bob Chamberland
> Anyone on the list ever built and sailed "Spartina." Would you careHi Dennis,
> to comment on both building and sailing characteristics? Thanks.
>
> Dennis Marshall
I asked the same question some time ago and got no answer nor is there
anything that I could find in old posts.
I bought the plans and Ian Oughtred's book on glue lapstrake
construction but in the end I decided that it was going to cost $4,000
or more to build and I already had enough invested in homemade boats.
I like the Spartina but I'm happy with my Typhoon and will build the
smaller Bobcat someday. There was some information about Spartina
either in Small Boat Journal or Messing About in Boats. I'll see what
I can find. If you have not purchased the plans yet I can loan you
mine for look see.
Bob Chamberland
Anyone on the list ever built and sailed "Spartina." Would you care
to comment on both building and sailing characteristics? Thanks.
Dennis Marshall
to comment on both building and sailing characteristics? Thanks.
Dennis Marshall