Re: [bolger] Re: How much plywood should I leave intact?
A Slick it is. They were/are used with a broad ax and adze on big
timbers. A 2" or more wide blade and a handle that was 18" to 24"
long. You don't use a mallet with them just arm power. I would give
anything to watch my dad working big timbers one wore time. I wasn't
interested when I had the opportunity.
HJ
cha62759@...wrote:
timbers. A 2" or more wide blade and a handle that was 18" to 24"
long. You don't use a mallet with them just arm power. I would give
anything to watch my dad working big timbers one wore time. I wasn't
interested when I had the opportunity.
HJ
cha62759@...wrote:
>
> --- In bolger@y..., John Kennedy <john.kennedy@g...> wrote:
> Should I just be patient, and remove and
> > replace one entire panel at a time?
> >
> > Thanks for any comments you can offer.
> I think what you might want to find is
> a "slick" if that's the right name. A big heavy chisel. Mine's about
> 1 1/2" wide and 12" long and heavy and it is very handy for paring
> off wood. I think your cleanup job will be easier than you
> anticipate.
>
>
--- In bolger@y..., John Kennedy <john.kennedy@g...> wrote:
Should I just be patient, and remove and
> replace one entire panel at a time?
>
> Thanks for any comments you can offer.
Hi John, By all means be patient. Go to the Fireball website and view
the construction sequence. (There are two) Dismantle in reverse
order. Clean up. Replace panels in the order shown on the website. A
cradle is a good idea. Why don't you build that now and leave the
dismantling until spring? I think what you might want to find is
a "slick" if that's the right name. A big heavy chisel. Mine's about
1 1/2" wide and 12" long and heavy and it is very handy for paring
off wood. I think your cleanup job will be easier than you
anticipate.
Bob Chamberland
The boat is OT (again!) but I figured I'd get knowledgeable advice here.
Repairing/replacing the bottom of my Fireball. For those who don't know,
it's 16 feet long, 4 feet wide, with four panels of 6 mm ply on the bottom.
The two bottom panels meet at the keel. No stringer on the outside, but the
keel on the inside at the joint.
The bilge panels meet the bottom panels about a foot away from the centre
line. The bilge-to-bottom panel joint has a stringer on the inside from bow
to stern. The bilge panels meet the side panels with a chine log to support
the joint.
To replace the bottom of the boat, I''ll need to saw and chisel to remove
all four panels, cleaning the stringers and chine logs but leaving them
intact. I'd like to start doing some removal work this fall, then store the
boat (outside, unfortunately) over the winter, finishing the final removal
and replacement of the panels in the spring when the weather is warm enough
to cope with epoxy.
My biggest fear is weakening the bottom of the boat such that the boat
changes shape. I'll build a cradle to hold the boat upside down, but I
suspect removing the bottom won't make the boat stronger!
(There are only three or four frames in the entire boat: most of the
strength seems to be in the plywood panels themselves.)
Any comments on this proposal:
Would I be safe if I removed sections of the bottom and bilge panels,
leaving a strip of plywood running side to side? For example, remove a
two-foot long piece of each panel, leaving a six-inch-wide strip of plywood
from one side of the boat to the other?
That way, I could clean old wood and epoxy glue off most of the stringers
and chine logs, but leave some wood in place to tie the boat together. Then
in the spring, I'd only have, say, a quarter, or a third, of the bottom left
to remove.
Or is that still a dumb idea? Should I just be patient, and remove and
replace one entire panel at a time?
Thanks for any comments you can offer.
Repairing/replacing the bottom of my Fireball. For those who don't know,
it's 16 feet long, 4 feet wide, with four panels of 6 mm ply on the bottom.
The two bottom panels meet at the keel. No stringer on the outside, but the
keel on the inside at the joint.
The bilge panels meet the bottom panels about a foot away from the centre
line. The bilge-to-bottom panel joint has a stringer on the inside from bow
to stern. The bilge panels meet the side panels with a chine log to support
the joint.
To replace the bottom of the boat, I''ll need to saw and chisel to remove
all four panels, cleaning the stringers and chine logs but leaving them
intact. I'd like to start doing some removal work this fall, then store the
boat (outside, unfortunately) over the winter, finishing the final removal
and replacement of the panels in the spring when the weather is warm enough
to cope with epoxy.
My biggest fear is weakening the bottom of the boat such that the boat
changes shape. I'll build a cradle to hold the boat upside down, but I
suspect removing the bottom won't make the boat stronger!
(There are only three or four frames in the entire boat: most of the
strength seems to be in the plywood panels themselves.)
Any comments on this proposal:
Would I be safe if I removed sections of the bottom and bilge panels,
leaving a strip of plywood running side to side? For example, remove a
two-foot long piece of each panel, leaving a six-inch-wide strip of plywood
from one side of the boat to the other?
That way, I could clean old wood and epoxy glue off most of the stringers
and chine logs, but leave some wood in place to tie the boat together. Then
in the spring, I'd only have, say, a quarter, or a third, of the bottom left
to remove.
Or is that still a dumb idea? Should I just be patient, and remove and
replace one entire panel at a time?
Thanks for any comments you can offer.