Re: tinting polycarbonate (was: window thickness)
I'll look for it. Also, have a friend who recently tried the auto
films stuff, and he is bringing me scraps to test with.
Imagination? How does that bond with wood? Is it water proof? <grin>
films stuff, and he is bringing me scraps to test with.
Imagination? How does that bond with wood? Is it water proof? <grin>
--- In bolger@y..., "Chuck Leinweber" <chuck@d...> wrote:
> Richard:
>
> I got some film for my shop windows that block about 75% of the
heat, but
> only about 10% of the light. Great stuff - it is made for
buildings rather
> than autos. It does not use an adhesive, it just sticks by
imagination to
> the inner surface. The same stuff comes with a tint if you want
it. Try
> Home Despot.
>
> Chuck
> -----Original Message-----
> From: richard@s... [mailto:richard@s...]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 1:09 PM
> To: bolger@y...
> Subject: [bolger] tinting polycarbonate (was: window thickness)
>
>
> Research would seam to indicate that polycarbonate aka Lexan is 2-
6
> times as strong as plywood.
>
> So, if I use 1/4" thickness polycarbonate with the 1/2" ply
> pilothouse on the CLC, I should have a nice strong structure
without
> having to go to extraordinary lengths to to strengthen the ply
> structure to hold non loadbearing windows.
>
> One question answered.
>
> Now, can I buy clear polycarbonate and use the auto window tinting
> film on it before assembly, to get exactly the shade of tint I
want
> on the windows?
>
> I'm pretty sure it's a water based glue they use.
>
> --- In bolger@y..., richard@s... wrote:
> > Any of your WDJ or Birdwatcher builders care to reveal the
> thickness
> > of the polycarbonate/lexan you used for your windows? 1/8"?
1/4"?
> >
> > Plans for CLC say nothing. Write up from Chebacco News mentions
> 1/8"
> > laminated glass.
> >
> > Anyone?
>
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Richard:
I got some film for my shop windows that block about 75% of the heat, but
only about 10% of the light. Great stuff - it is made for buildings rather
than autos. It does not use an adhesive, it just sticks by imagination to
the inner surface. The same stuff comes with a tint if you want it. Try
Home Despot.
Chuck
-----Original Message-----
From:richard@...[mailto:richard@...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 1:09 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] tinting polycarbonate (was: window thickness)
Research would seam to indicate that polycarbonate aka Lexan is 2-6
times as strong as plywood.
So, if I use 1/4" thickness polycarbonate with the 1/2" ply
pilothouse on the CLC, I should have a nice strong structure without
having to go to extraordinary lengths to to strengthen the ply
structure to hold non loadbearing windows.
One question answered.
Now, can I buy clear polycarbonate and use the auto window tinting
film on it before assembly, to get exactly the shade of tint I want
on the windows?
I'm pretty sure it's a water based glue they use.
I got some film for my shop windows that block about 75% of the heat, but
only about 10% of the light. Great stuff - it is made for buildings rather
than autos. It does not use an adhesive, it just sticks by imagination to
the inner surface. The same stuff comes with a tint if you want it. Try
Home Despot.
Chuck
-----Original Message-----
From:richard@...[mailto:richard@...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 1:09 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] tinting polycarbonate (was: window thickness)
Research would seam to indicate that polycarbonate aka Lexan is 2-6
times as strong as plywood.
So, if I use 1/4" thickness polycarbonate with the 1/2" ply
pilothouse on the CLC, I should have a nice strong structure without
having to go to extraordinary lengths to to strengthen the ply
structure to hold non loadbearing windows.
One question answered.
Now, can I buy clear polycarbonate and use the auto window tinting
film on it before assembly, to get exactly the shade of tint I want
on the windows?
I'm pretty sure it's a water based glue they use.
--- In bolger@y..., richard@s... wrote:
> Any of your WDJ or Birdwatcher builders care to reveal the
thickness
> of the polycarbonate/lexan you used for your windows? 1/8"? 1/4"?
>
> Plans for CLC say nothing. Write up from Chebacco News mentions
1/8"
> laminated glass.
>
> Anyone?
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Research would seam to indicate that polycarbonate aka Lexan is 2-6
times as strong as plywood.
So, if I use 1/4" thickness polycarbonate with the 1/2" ply
pilothouse on the CLC, I should have a nice strong structure without
having to go to extraordinary lengths to to strengthen the ply
structure to hold non loadbearing windows.
One question answered.
Now, can I buy clear polycarbonate and use the auto window tinting
film on it before assembly, to get exactly the shade of tint I want
on the windows?
I'm pretty sure it's a water based glue they use.
times as strong as plywood.
So, if I use 1/4" thickness polycarbonate with the 1/2" ply
pilothouse on the CLC, I should have a nice strong structure without
having to go to extraordinary lengths to to strengthen the ply
structure to hold non loadbearing windows.
One question answered.
Now, can I buy clear polycarbonate and use the auto window tinting
film on it before assembly, to get exactly the shade of tint I want
on the windows?
I'm pretty sure it's a water based glue they use.
--- In bolger@y..., richard@s... wrote:
> Any of your WDJ or Birdwatcher builders care to reveal the
thickness
> of the polycarbonate/lexan you used for your windows? 1/8"? 1/4"?
>
> Plans for CLC say nothing. Write up from Chebacco News mentions
1/8"
> laminated glass.
>
> Anyone?
Bolger's plans specify 1/4" "plastic" for Birdwatcher. It is not clear
whether Lexan or Plexiglass is preferred. At any rate, 1/8" thick
would be too thin for such broad expanses of window, and the 1/4"
matches the plywood thickness used elsewhere on the hull,
porky
whether Lexan or Plexiglass is preferred. At any rate, 1/8" thick
would be too thin for such broad expanses of window, and the 1/4"
matches the plywood thickness used elsewhere on the hull,
porky
--- In bolger@y..., richard@s... wrote:
> Any of your WDJ or Birdwatcher builders care to reveal the thickness
> of the polycarbonate/lexan you used for your windows? 1/8"? 1/4"?
>
> Plans for CLC say nothing. Write up from Chebacco News mentions 1/8"
> laminated glass.
>
> Anyone?
The plans call for 1/4" "plastic". Lexan is way more
bulletproof than plexiglass. My local supplier offers
a host of plexiglass options, however. Enough lexan
might cost more than buying the boat second hand.
Well, that might be an exageration.
I think it would depend a lot on where you plan on
sailing this thing. Bolger relies on this material to
provide self righting ability. If you are depending
on that to save your life in cold water, it is one
thing, and if you are depending on it to stop your
from taking an otherwise pleasurable swim, it is
another. At 1500lbs displacement, this boat has water
pressure of about 10#/sq. ft. on it. You could do a
simmilar calculation for whatever you are planing,
then test a sample.
How to test is a difficult call. Let's say your
largest window was one sq ft a piece over that size
opening, not screwed down, with twice the weight in
sandbags on it - 20#. I think that would hold, And I
wouldn't worry. When installed with a fastener every
few inches, it would be much stronger.
If your largest hole was 2'x2', that much window, not
screwed down, but with 80#. Well, I would have to see
it.
A more realistic test would be a sample window scred
down, about 5 times the weight on it, but that would
be a lot more trouble.
The Gougeons book has some stuff on platic windows.
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Any of your WDJ or Birdwatcher builders care to reveal
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of the polycarbonate/lexan you used for your windows?
1/8"? 1/4"?<BR>
<BR>
Plans for CLC say nothing. Write up from Chebacco News
mentions 1/8" <BR>
laminated glass.<BR>
<BR>
Anyone?<BR>
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bulletproof than plexiglass. My local supplier offers
a host of plexiglass options, however. Enough lexan
might cost more than buying the boat second hand.
Well, that might be an exageration.
I think it would depend a lot on where you plan on
sailing this thing. Bolger relies on this material to
provide self righting ability. If you are depending
on that to save your life in cold water, it is one
thing, and if you are depending on it to stop your
from taking an otherwise pleasurable swim, it is
another. At 1500lbs displacement, this boat has water
pressure of about 10#/sq. ft. on it. You could do a
simmilar calculation for whatever you are planing,
then test a sample.
How to test is a difficult call. Let's say your
largest window was one sq ft a piece over that size
opening, not screwed down, with twice the weight in
sandbags on it - 20#. I think that would hold, And I
wouldn't worry. When installed with a fastener every
few inches, it would be much stronger.
If your largest hole was 2'x2', that much window, not
screwed down, but with 80#. Well, I would have to see
it.
A more realistic test would be a sample window scred
down, about 5 times the weight on it, but that would
be a lot more trouble.
The Gougeons book has some stuff on platic windows.
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Any of your WDJ or Birdwatcher builders care to reveal
the thickness <BR>
of the polycarbonate/lexan you used for your windows?
1/8"? 1/4"?<BR>
<BR>
Plans for CLC say nothing. Write up from Chebacco News
mentions 1/8" <BR>
laminated glass.<BR>
<BR>
Anyone?<BR>
<BR>
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Any of your WDJ or Birdwatcher builders care to reveal the thickness
of the polycarbonate/lexan you used for your windows? 1/8"? 1/4"?
Plans for CLC say nothing. Write up from Chebacco News mentions 1/8"
laminated glass.
Anyone?
of the polycarbonate/lexan you used for your windows? 1/8"? 1/4"?
Plans for CLC say nothing. Write up from Chebacco News mentions 1/8"
laminated glass.
Anyone?