Bolgers other side
You know that is an intersting quote. It is intersting
to read that from PCB. But then again most attackers
don't see a woman as a threat to them most of the
time.
I know both myself and my lady know how to handle
firearms and we both like Glocks seeing how they are
KISS and easy to take down and clean. And it handles
like a DA revolver only you have a lot more then 6
shots.
Blessings Krissie
--- graeme19121984 <graeme19121984@...>
wrote:
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in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A.
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to read that from PCB. But then again most attackers
don't see a woman as a threat to them most of the
time.
I know both myself and my lady know how to handle
firearms and we both like Glocks seeing how they are
KISS and easy to take down and clean. And it handles
like a DA revolver only you have a lot more then 6
shots.
Blessings Krissie
--- graeme19121984 <graeme19121984@...>
wrote:
>____________________________________________________________________________________
> Scince reading it I've been intrigued by another
> apparently life long
> aspect of PCB, guns, rarely seen explicitly in his
> nautical writings.
> He has the woman sleep with a ".357 Magnum double
> action revolver"
> and frequently she quotes this ditty "Be not afraid
> of any man, no
> matter what his size. When trouble threatens, call
> on me, and I will
> equalise!"
>
>
Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate
in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A.
http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545367
Marc,
I have the Jinni plans and planed on building it about 12 years
ago but got distracted with life. About 3 years ago I got back into
boat building and discovered Jim Michalak's designs. I decided on
building the AF3 instead. I love it. It was very easy to build has a
Michalak style swinging lee board which is very easy to build and use.
I would suggest that you email Jim about the Jinni and ask his
opinion about it. I am sure he will give you a thoughtful response.
Also I would let him know your requirements for a boat and ask him to
suggest a boat of his design. You might like that option even more.
Here is the link to his Web Pagehttp://homepages.apci.net/%7Emichalak/
His email address and contact info are there.
Chris Feller
I have the Jinni plans and planed on building it about 12 years
ago but got distracted with life. About 3 years ago I got back into
boat building and discovered Jim Michalak's designs. I decided on
building the AF3 instead. I love it. It was very easy to build has a
Michalak style swinging lee board which is very easy to build and use.
I would suggest that you email Jim about the Jinni and ask his
opinion about it. I am sure he will give you a thoughtful response.
Also I would let him know your requirements for a boat and ask him to
suggest a boat of his design. You might like that option even more.
Here is the link to his Web Pagehttp://homepages.apci.net/%7Emichalak/
His email address and contact info are there.
Chris Feller
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "m_medved" <m_medved@...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm considering building the Jinni as my first boat project. There's
> very little information available on the internet about Jinni, which
> led me to this site.
>
> Other than those of Mr. Michalak's (spelling?) boat, are Jinni pictures
> available?
>
> Does anybody have experience with this design? Would you expect this
> to be a realistic first project?
>
> Marc
>
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "graeme19121984" <graeme19121984@...>
wrote:
plans show an elaborate tent with windows, but the woman never worked
out how to stow the bits and pieces for it, so used the tarp on the
floor.
wrote:
>Also PCB writes that he never got around to designing the wonderfulAvast there. I think I had that confused with Old Shoe. PCB writes the
>tent depicted in the sketches.
plans show an elaborate tent with windows, but the woman never worked
out how to stow the bits and pieces for it, so used the tarp on the
floor.
"The Singlehander (JINNI)" appears in Appendix #2 of the 1991 Winter-
Spring catalogue of CSD.
Scince reading it I've been intrigued by another apparently life long
aspect of PCB, guns, rarely seen explicitly in his nautical writings.
He has the woman sleep with a ".357 Magnum double action revolver"
and frequently she quotes this ditty "Be not afraid of any man, no
matter what his size. When trouble threatens, call on me, and I will
equalise!"
Spring catalogue of CSD.
Scince reading it I've been intrigued by another apparently life long
aspect of PCB, guns, rarely seen explicitly in his nautical writings.
He has the woman sleep with a ".357 Magnum double action revolver"
and frequently she quotes this ditty "Be not afraid of any man, no
matter what his size. When trouble threatens, call on me, and I will
equalise!"
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Hallman" <bruce@...> wrote:
>
> > There is a fictional vignette written by Bolger about a
singlehanded
> > cruise on the Potomac in Jinni that appeared in WoodenBoat
magazine
> > back in the late '80s, I believe.
>
> I have long been looking to read that essay, anybody have a copy to
share?
>
Marc,
have you seen J Michalak's early days pics and discussion of
the "Jinni" here?
http://www.boatdesign.com/postings/pages/instantbb.htm
Bits and pieces spread through a few issues. JM's plywood use
cutting plan in a later isssue (7?).
I think he says he only ever capsised twice and those were due to
his own error, like cleating the mainsheet, and never capsised with
two aboard. In very strong wind he wouldn't sail downwind to a
destination, fearing a gybe, but would lufff up, sheet the mizzen in
hard, and drift at 2-3 knots backwards downwind until past his
planned destination, whereon he would then have the bow fall off on
the appropriate tack and reach for his destination.
In his article, PCB has the skipper always raising the fixed foils
and rowing in to an anchorage. Also PCB writes that he never got
around to designing the wonderful tent depicted in the sketches.
Leeboards and pivoting rudder were added later, but the Jinni
plywood use diagram of JM and his writings show how to make one of
his style of pivoting leeboards for Jinni. (Easier than usual I
would think, due to the plumb sides)
In his article PCB mentions Jinni is a bit wet under sail and has
the woman sponge out the cockpit then layout a dry tarp acrosss the
floor and up the sides to create a dry camp for the night. However,
the CSD cartoons show raised floorboards.
Graeme
have you seen J Michalak's early days pics and discussion of
the "Jinni" here?
http://www.boatdesign.com/postings/pages/instantbb.htm
Bits and pieces spread through a few issues. JM's plywood use
cutting plan in a later isssue (7?).
I think he says he only ever capsised twice and those were due to
his own error, like cleating the mainsheet, and never capsised with
two aboard. In very strong wind he wouldn't sail downwind to a
destination, fearing a gybe, but would lufff up, sheet the mizzen in
hard, and drift at 2-3 knots backwards downwind until past his
planned destination, whereon he would then have the bow fall off on
the appropriate tack and reach for his destination.
In his article, PCB has the skipper always raising the fixed foils
and rowing in to an anchorage. Also PCB writes that he never got
around to designing the wonderful tent depicted in the sketches.
Leeboards and pivoting rudder were added later, but the Jinni
plywood use diagram of JM and his writings show how to make one of
his style of pivoting leeboards for Jinni. (Easier than usual I
would think, due to the plumb sides)
In his article PCB mentions Jinni is a bit wet under sail and has
the woman sponge out the cockpit then layout a dry tarp acrosss the
floor and up the sides to create a dry camp for the night. However,
the CSD cartoons show raised floorboards.
Graeme
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "m_medved" <m_medved@...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm considering building the Jinni as my first boat project.
There's
> very little information available on the internet about Jinni,
which
> led me to this site.
>
> Other than those of Mr. Michalak's (spelling?) boat, are Jinni
pictures
> available?
>
> Does anybody have experience with this design? Would you expect
this
> to be a realistic first project?
>
> Marc
>
Hello
I built a Jinni as a first project in about '92. Unfortunately it has
been sailed very little as I have since moved to Norway and the boat
remains in Canada.
I would say it is a relatively easy build with no complications. A
basic box, big enough that there are no curves that are hard to bend.
The bottom in 1/4 flexes somewhat so you might consider 2 layers or
going up to 3/8.
If I get a chance I will modify the boat to have a pivoting leeboard,
which was shown as an option on the plan. I used the rope fastened
leeboards which are a pain on such a small boat. They are also
dangerous in a capsize as they are weighted and can smash you on the
head. Not fun.
I agree that the boat is somewhat overcanvassed under most conditions,
and the rig is not simple to reef. Mine has suffered from a poorly cut
main that flaps all the time. Thus its permformance has not been that
good. Given time I could probably fix that, however.
I guess in a way I think it is a dated design. If I were building a
boat of similar size today I would choose a different design. It really
takes on a lot of water in a capsize, which is not unlikely carrying
that much sail. Also there is no motor mount, and the boat is not easy
to row. So if I were you I would consider another design, like one of
the Payson/Bolger Instant boats or one of Michalak's many designs. That
being said Jinni was fun to build and could be fun to sail. It
certainly has loads of room.
Good luck,
Daniel in Tromsø, Norway.
70 North, the sun came over the horizon this week!
I built a Jinni as a first project in about '92. Unfortunately it has
been sailed very little as I have since moved to Norway and the boat
remains in Canada.
I would say it is a relatively easy build with no complications. A
basic box, big enough that there are no curves that are hard to bend.
The bottom in 1/4 flexes somewhat so you might consider 2 layers or
going up to 3/8.
If I get a chance I will modify the boat to have a pivoting leeboard,
which was shown as an option on the plan. I used the rope fastened
leeboards which are a pain on such a small boat. They are also
dangerous in a capsize as they are weighted and can smash you on the
head. Not fun.
I agree that the boat is somewhat overcanvassed under most conditions,
and the rig is not simple to reef. Mine has suffered from a poorly cut
main that flaps all the time. Thus its permformance has not been that
good. Given time I could probably fix that, however.
I guess in a way I think it is a dated design. If I were building a
boat of similar size today I would choose a different design. It really
takes on a lot of water in a capsize, which is not unlikely carrying
that much sail. Also there is no motor mount, and the boat is not easy
to row. So if I were you I would consider another design, like one of
the Payson/Bolger Instant boats or one of Michalak's many designs. That
being said Jinni was fun to build and could be fun to sail. It
certainly has loads of room.
Good luck,
Daniel in Tromsø, Norway.
70 North, the sun came over the horizon this week!
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "m_medved" <m_medved@...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm considering building the Jinni as my first boat project. There's
> very little information available on the internet about Jinni, which
> led me to this site.
>
> Other than those of Mr. Michalak's (spelling?) boat, are Jinni
pictures
> available?
>
> Does anybody have experience with this design? Would you expect this
> to be a realistic first project?
>
> Marc
>
>For those of you that have old issues of WB available on yourIf this is what I'm thinking of, it's a different design called Jinni. But
>bookshelfor at the library, it is issue #86 (Jan/Feb 1989). It
>includes the fictional narratives of Micro, Marina Cruiser, Red
>Zinger, Birwatcher and Leeboard Catboat that are incuded in BWAOM,
>along with sections on Jinni and and Single Handed Catamaran. The
>only illustrations I haven't seen elsewhere are cutaway perspectives
>of Micro and Leeboard catboat.
>
>Allan, in the hills
>
>>There is a fictional vignette written by Bolger about a singlehanded
>>cruise on the Potomac in Jinni that appeared in WoodenBoat magazine
>>back in the late '80s, I believe. However, I must warn you that if you
>>read it, you will be instantly seduced and will no doubt send for the
>>plans that day, buy a new saw blade, and be loading AC plywood at Home
>>Depot before dark.
I could be wrong.
--
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For those of you that have old issues of WB available on your
bookshelfor at the library, it is issue #86 (Jan/Feb 1989). It
includes the fictional narratives of Micro, Marina Cruiser, Red
Zinger, Birwatcher and Leeboard Catboat that are incuded in BWAOM,
along with sections on Jinni and and Single Handed Catamaran. The
only illustrations I haven't seen elsewhere are cutaway perspectives
of Micro and Leeboard catboat.
Allan, in the hills
bookshelfor at the library, it is issue #86 (Jan/Feb 1989). It
includes the fictional narratives of Micro, Marina Cruiser, Red
Zinger, Birwatcher and Leeboard Catboat that are incuded in BWAOM,
along with sections on Jinni and and Single Handed Catamaran. The
only illustrations I haven't seen elsewhere are cutaway perspectives
of Micro and Leeboard catboat.
Allan, in the hills
>There is a fictional vignette written by Bolger about a singlehanded
>cruise on the Potomac in Jinni that appeared in WoodenBoat magazine
>back in the late '80s, I believe. However, I must warn you that if you
>read it, you will be instantly seduced and will no doubt send for the
>plans that day, buy a new saw blade, and be loading AC plywood at Home
>Depot before dark.
> There is a fictional vignette written by Bolger about a singlehandedI have long been looking to read that essay, anybody have a copy to share?
> cruise on the Potomac in Jinni that appeared in WoodenBoat magazine
> back in the late '80s, I believe.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, kb9blackwell@... wrote:
I also like the looks of that design, but when I wrote to Phil Bolger
about it, he suggested that Windsprint would be a better choice. He
didn't elaborate on why, but I figured he should know. You are
probably aware that Windsprint is one of the designs featured in
Payson's second book of "Instant Boats."
If you do build Jinni, I expect that many of us would be interested
in seeing pictures.
Regards
Rob M
> Hello,
>
> Does any one have any other info on the Bolger designed sharpie
> Jinni. I saw a picture on a website of one the Jim Michalak had
> built. It looked like a wonderfully pretty boat. I have never read
> about this design before any info would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks, Ken Bridges
>
Hi Marc,
the time, the plans were being offered by Bernie Wolford of Common
Sense Designs. I spoke with Bernie on the phone about Jinni and the
Common Sense Skiff (Bolger #571, I believe), and learned that he had
built/sailed both boats. The only comments I recall now are that he
thought Jinni was somewhat over-canvassed and needed to be reefed much
of the time.
Ultimately I built the CS Skiff, and I can tell you that it's a very
stiff boat that can handle a lot of wind. However, it's quite a bit
more complicated than Jinni to build, and there were many times I
wished I had the big open cockpit of Jinni instead of the footwell of
the CS Skiff. Jinni is certainly a good first project and shouldn't
present any difficulties if you have any experience at all with a saw.
If your local sailing grounds are very windy, you might consider a
design with a somewhat smaller sail area (Junebug?), mainly because
reefing the Solent lug (one option for the mainsail on Jinni) can be a
pain. Having the mizzen to hold her head-to-wind would be helpful
here. Having said that, I'd love to build a Jinni some day, and rig
her with a balanced lug main!
There is a fictional vignette written by Bolger about a singlehanded
cruise on the Potomac in Jinni that appeared in WoodenBoat magazine
back in the late '80s, I believe. However, I must warn you that if you
read it, you will be instantly seduced and will no doubt send for the
plans that day, buy a new saw blade, and be loading AC plywood at Home
Depot before dark.
Jon Kolb
www.kolbsadventures.com/boatbuilding_index.htm
> I'm considering building the Jinni as my first boat project. There'spictures
> very little information available on the internet about Jinni, which
> led me to this site.
>
> Other than those of Mr. Michalak's (spelling?) boat, are Jinni
> available?I considered Jinni as my first boatbuilding project back in '91. At
>
> Does anybody have experience with this design? Would you expect this
> to be a realistic first project?
the time, the plans were being offered by Bernie Wolford of Common
Sense Designs. I spoke with Bernie on the phone about Jinni and the
Common Sense Skiff (Bolger #571, I believe), and learned that he had
built/sailed both boats. The only comments I recall now are that he
thought Jinni was somewhat over-canvassed and needed to be reefed much
of the time.
Ultimately I built the CS Skiff, and I can tell you that it's a very
stiff boat that can handle a lot of wind. However, it's quite a bit
more complicated than Jinni to build, and there were many times I
wished I had the big open cockpit of Jinni instead of the footwell of
the CS Skiff. Jinni is certainly a good first project and shouldn't
present any difficulties if you have any experience at all with a saw.
If your local sailing grounds are very windy, you might consider a
design with a somewhat smaller sail area (Junebug?), mainly because
reefing the Solent lug (one option for the mainsail on Jinni) can be a
pain. Having the mizzen to hold her head-to-wind would be helpful
here. Having said that, I'd love to build a Jinni some day, and rig
her with a balanced lug main!
There is a fictional vignette written by Bolger about a singlehanded
cruise on the Potomac in Jinni that appeared in WoodenBoat magazine
back in the late '80s, I believe. However, I must warn you that if you
read it, you will be instantly seduced and will no doubt send for the
plans that day, buy a new saw blade, and be loading AC plywood at Home
Depot before dark.
Jon Kolb
www.kolbsadventures.com/boatbuilding_index.htm
> I'm considering building the Jinni as my first boat project.http://hallman.org/bolger/426/
If you already know how to measure, and handle a saw, then yes, Jinni
would be a good first boatbuilding project.
Hello,
I'm considering building the Jinni as my first boat project. There's
very little information available on the internet about Jinni, which
led me to this site.
Other than those of Mr. Michalak's (spelling?) boat, are Jinni pictures
available?
Does anybody have experience with this design? Would you expect this
to be a realistic first project?
Marc
I'm considering building the Jinni as my first boat project. There's
very little information available on the internet about Jinni, which
led me to this site.
Other than those of Mr. Michalak's (spelling?) boat, are Jinni pictures
available?
Does anybody have experience with this design? Would you expect this
to be a realistic first project?
Marc
--- In bolger@y..., dadadata@f... wrote:
anyones first hand experience sailing one. Thanks
Ken
> --- In bolger@y..., kb9blackwell@h... wrote:read
> > Hello,
> >
> > Does any one have any other info on the Bolger designed sharpie
> > Jinni. I saw a picture on a website of one the Jim Michalak had
> > built. It looked like a wonderfully pretty boat. I have never
> > about this design before any info would be greatly appreciated.original
> >
> > Thanks, Ken Bridges
>
> I think my Cheap Pages has the profile and sail plan for the
> reduced from the plans I purchased a long time back... There havebeen
> a few pictured in the pages of Messing About in Boats.Yes actuall where I saw it was at your site. I was curious about
anyones first hand experience sailing one. Thanks
Ken
--- In bolger@y..., kb9blackwell@h... wrote:
reduced from the plans I purchased a long time back... There have been
a few pictured in the pages of Messing About in Boats.
> Hello,I think my Cheap Pages has the profile and sail plan for the original
>
> Does any one have any other info on the Bolger designed sharpie
> Jinni. I saw a picture on a website of one the Jim Michalak had
> built. It looked like a wonderfully pretty boat. I have never read
> about this design before any info would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks, Ken Bridges
reduced from the plans I purchased a long time back... There have been
a few pictured in the pages of Messing About in Boats.
On Sat, 6 Oct 2001kb9blackwell@...wrote:
not on Bolger's plan at all.
> Does any one have any other info on the Bolger designed sharpie Jinni.Keep in mind that Michalak's Jinni is substantially modified--the cabin is
> I saw a picture on a website of one the Jim Michalak had built. It
> looked like a wonderfully pretty boat. I have never read about this
> design before any info would be greatly appreciated.
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Hello,
Does any one have any other info on the Bolger designed sharpie
Jinni. I saw a picture on a website of one the Jim Michalak had
built. It looked like a wonderfully pretty boat. I have never read
about this design before any info would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, Ken Bridges
Does any one have any other info on the Bolger designed sharpie
Jinni. I saw a picture on a website of one the Jim Michalak had
built. It looked like a wonderfully pretty boat. I have never read
about this design before any info would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, Ken Bridges