Re: [bolger] re: Trailer for Topaz

Thanks, Shorty. Its a little light for my purpose.
Looks like a good deal for somebody, though.
Sam
---Shorty@...wrote:

> I have a trailer that I am selling, originally
> bought it for a boat
> building project but it is too big to roll into my
> side yard (would have
> to cut a few trees down). I ended up purchasing a
> smaller trailer.
>
>http://www.shortypen.com/trailer1.jpg
>http://www.shortypen.com/trailer2.jpg
>http://www.shortypen.com/trailer3.jpg
>http://www.shortypen.com/trailer4.jpg
>http://www.shortypen.com/trailer5.gif
>
> Not sure if it is big enough for your needs, it is
> rated for 2070 lbs,
> has new tires and is galvenized.
>
> Chuck used a similar trailer and modified it for his
> Caprice.
>
> I am selling it for $289, let me know if you are
> interested. Next
> Monday I am heading out on vacation for 2 weeks and
> won't be able to
> talk over email during that time.
>
> Shorty
>
> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 17:55:10 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Sam Glasscock
> <glasscocklanding@...>
> > Subject: Trailer for Topaz
> >
> > I will be pulling my Topaz out of the
> garage/shelter
> > this spring (or maybe not--its a pretty tight fit,
> I
> > may have to burn the house around her) and have
> > started looking for a trailer to hold her. She is
> 31'
> > long and about 6' max. beam at the waterline.
> Bolger
> > recommends a 3000# single axle trailer--I have had
> no
> > luck finding a single or double axle production
> > trailer anywhere near that light that will take
> her
> > length. I am afraid a heavily-sprung trailer will
> > shake her to pieces. Finding used trailers
> (better
> > than junk) to modify down here in the salt is
> tough or
> > worse. Any advice on how to buy/modify/fabricate
> a
> > trailer for Bolger's Topaz? Trailers for the
> "state"
> > series (Sneakeasy, Tennesee, Idaho, etc.)of
> sharpies
> > must have similar requirements. Any advice would
> be
> > appreciated.
> >
> > Sam
>
>

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I have a trailer that I am selling, originally bought it for a boat
building project but it is too big to roll into my side yard (would have
to cut a few trees down). I ended up purchasing a smaller trailer.

http://www.shortypen.com/trailer1.jpg
http://www.shortypen.com/trailer2.jpg
http://www.shortypen.com/trailer3.jpg
http://www.shortypen.com/trailer4.jpg
http://www.shortypen.com/trailer5.gif

Not sure if it is big enough for your needs, it is rated for 2070 lbs,
has new tires and is galvenized.

Chuck used a similar trailer and modified it for his Caprice.

I am selling it for $289, let me know if you are interested. Next
Monday I am heading out on vacation for 2 weeks and won't be able to
talk over email during that time.

Shorty

>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 17:55:10 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Sam Glasscock <glasscocklanding@...>
> Subject: Trailer for Topaz
>
> I will be pulling my Topaz out of the garage/shelter
> this spring (or maybe not--its a pretty tight fit, I
> may have to burn the house around her) and have
> started looking for a trailer to hold her. She is 31'
> long and about 6' max. beam at the waterline. Bolger
> recommends a 3000# single axle trailer--I have had no
> luck finding a single or double axle production
> trailer anywhere near that light that will take her
> length. I am afraid a heavily-sprung trailer will
> shake her to pieces. Finding used trailers (better
> than junk) to modify down here in the salt is tough or
> worse. Any advice on how to buy/modify/fabricate a
> trailer for Bolger's Topaz? Trailers for the "state"
> series (Sneakeasy, Tennesee, Idaho, etc.)of sharpies
> must have similar requirements. Any advice would be
> appreciated.
>
> Sam

If you follow the links, one of the California
Sneakeasies has a very nice looking trailer. You
might follow up on that, or use it as an example of
what you want.

--- Sam Glasscock <glasscocklanding@...> wrote:

<HR>
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<tt>
I will be pulling my Topaz out of the
garage/shelter 
this spring (or maybe not--its a pretty tight fit,
I 
may have to burn the house around her) and have 
started looking for a trailer to hold her. She
is 31' 
long and about 6' max. beam at the waterline.
Bolger 
recommends a 3000# single axle trailer--I have had
no 
luck finding a single or double axle production 
trailer anywhere near that light that will take
her 
length. I am afraid a heavily-sprung trailer
will 
shake her to pieces. Finding used trailers
(better 
than junk) to modify down here in the salt is tough
or 
worse. Any advice on how to buy/modify/fabricate
a 
trailer for Bolger's Topaz? Trailers for the
"state" 
series (Sneakeasy, Tennesee, Idaho, etc.)of
sharpies 
must have similar requirements. Any advice would
be 
appreciated. 
 
Sam

> 
> 
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or

> > flogging dead horses 
> > - pls take "personals" off-list,

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> and 
> > punctuate 
> > - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN

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> posts, 
> > snip all you like 
> > - To order plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O.

Box

> > 1209, Gloucester, MA, 01930, Fax: (978)

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> > 
> > There are 14 messages in this issue. 
> > 
> > Topics in this digest: 
> > 
> > 1. Truly

Portable Boat

>
>

From: Shorty@...

> > 2. Re:

Bottom Paint

>
>

From: cha62759@...

> > 3. Re:

Bottom Paint

>
>

From: "Glen Gibson"
<glen@...>

> > 4. Is

this a new idea?

>
>

From: David Ryan

> > <david@...> 
> > 5.

CE/CLR (was OOOPS!)

>
>

From: wmrpage@...

> > 6. Re:

Is this a new idea?

>
>

From: mkstocks@...

> > 7. Re:

Is this a new idea?

>
>

From: mike_vacanti@...

> > 8. Re:

Is this a new idea?

>
>

From: mkstocks@...

> > 9. RE:

Re: Is this a new idea?

>
>

From: "Paul Lefebvre"
<paul@...>

> > 10. Re: Is

this a new idea?

>
>

From: stephen@...

> > 11. Re: CE/CLR

(was OOOPS!)

>
>

From: "Derek Waters"
<dgw@...>

> > 12. Re: Is

this a new idea?

>
>

From: shansen@...

> > 13. RE: CE/CLR

(was OOOPS!)

>
>

From: "Bill Kreamer"
<kreamer@...>

> > 14. Re: Is

this a new idea?

>
>

From: TRolaDIK@...

> > 
> > 
> > 
>

________________________________________________________________________

> > 
>

________________________________________________________________________

> > 
> > Message: 1 
> > Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001

09:22:04 -0500

> > From:

Shorty@...

> > Subject: Truly Portable Boat 
> > 
> > Not sure if this was posted before, just

spotted

> > this boat on eBay: 
> > 
> > 
>

<a
href="http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1018698701">http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1018698701</a>

> > 
> > Looks like a truly portable and reusable

boat.

> > 
> > Shorty 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
>

________________________________________________________________________

> > 
>

________________________________________________________________________

> > 
> > Message: 2 
> > Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001

14:39:00 -0000

> > From:

cha62759@...

> > Subject: Re: Bottom Paint 
> > 
> > --- In bolger@y..., David Ryan

<david@c...> wrote:

> > > FBBB -- 
> > > 
> > > The light scooner Margeret Ellen has

not faired

> > well under the no 
> > > bottom paint/scrub often plan and finds

herself

> in 
> > need of a haul out 
> > > for repairs and repainting. 
> > > 
> > > I'd like to give her a proper

antifouling paint

> > job, but find myself 
> > >> Suggestions? 
> > > 
> > > YIBB, 
> > > 
> > > David 
> > > 
> > > Hi David, I've used and am still using

VC-17m.

> > This has been in 
> > fresh relatively clean water. Lake Michigan,

and

> > Dillon reservoir in 
> > Colorado. It is a piece of cake to apply,

recoat

> and 
> > touch up. I am 
> > also using Interlux Bottomkote on my Typhoon

but

> > only because that is 
> > what was on it when I bought it. It has only

been

> in 
> > the water a 
> > couple of months so that is no test.

"Practical

> > Sailor" ran tests 
> > several years ago on bottom paints. I don't

recall

> > the conclusion. 
> > Bob Chamberland 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
>

________________________________________________________________________

> > 
>

________________________________________________________________________

> > 
> > Message: 3 
> > Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001

08:59:31 -0700

> > From: "Glen

Gibson" <glen@...>

> > Subject: Re: Bottom Paint 
> > 
> > 
> > This from a gentleman at Devlin Boat

builders when

> I 
> > asked about bottom 
> > finishes (Sam Devlins boat building book,

which I

> > like very much, 
> > recommended Copper Epoxy bottom finish, and

I

> > emailed to find out the 
> > manufacturer): 
> > 
> > We no longer use the

Copper Epoxy. While it is

> a 
> > good idea and the 
> > finish 
> > cures very hard, the application is a

nightmare. I

> > cringe at the thought 
> > of 
> > applying it. It was originally created by

System

> > Three and I believe the 
> > recipe 
> > was sold a couple of years back so I can't

say

> what 
> > label you can find 
> > it under. 
> > For the past five or six years we have used

Micron

> > CSC bottom paint 
> > exclusively, 
> > and that is what I would recommend. 
> > 
> > Glen 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
>

________________________________________________________________________

> > 
>

________________________________________________________________________

> > 
> > Message: 4 
> > Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001

14:13:15 -0400

> > From: David Ryan

<david@...>

> > Subject: Is this a new idea? 
> > 
> > FBBB -- 
> > 
> > While my wife and I are mostly committed

to

> staying 
> > here in New York, 
> > I have to admit there's more than a

little

> > temptation to close up 
> > shop and hit the open road in a

Winnebago.

> Naturally 
> > this brings up 
> > the question of the perfect boat to take

along on

> a 
> > year of camping. 
> > 
> > Ocean kayaks have always been popular as

camp

> boats 
> > in Baja 
> > California. Good for poking around in, big

enough

> to 
> > fish out of near 
>

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> 
> 
> > - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming,

or

> > flogging dead horses 
> > - pls take "personals" off-list,

stay on topic,

> and 
> > punctuate 
> > - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN

your

> posts, 
> > snip all you like 
> > - To order plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O.

Box

> > 1209, Gloucester, MA, 01930, Fax: (978)

282-1349

> > - Unsubscribe:

bolger-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

> > 
>

------------------------------------------------------------------------

> > 
> > There are 14 messages in this issue. 
> > 
> > Topics in this digest: 
> > 
> > 1. Truly

Portable Boat

>
>

From: Shorty@...

> > 2. Re:

Bottom Paint

>
>

From: cha62759@...

> > 3. Re:

Bottom Paint

>
>

From: "Glen Gibson"
<glen@...>

> > 4. Is

this a new idea?

>
>

From: David Ryan

> > <david@...> 
> > 5.

CE/CLR (was OOOPS!)

>
>

From: wmrpage@...

> > 6. Re:

Is this a new idea?

>
>

From: mkstocks@...

> > 7. Re:

Is this a new idea?

>
>

From: mike_vacanti@...

> > 8. Re:

Is this a new idea?

>
>

From: mkstocks@...

> > 9. RE:

Re: Is this a new idea?

>
>

From: "Paul Lefebvre"
<paul@...>

> > 10. Re: Is

this a new idea?

>
>

From: stephen@...

> > 11. Re: CE/CLR

(was OOOPS!)

>
>

From: "Derek Waters"
<dgw@...>

> > 12. Re: Is

this a new idea?

>
>

From: shansen@...

> > 13. RE: CE/CLR

(was OOOPS!)

>
>

From: "Bill Kreamer"
<kreamer@...>

> > 14. Re: Is

this a new idea?

>
>

From: TRolaDIK@...

> > 
> > 
> > 
>

________________________________________________________________________

> > 
>

________________________________________________________________________

> > 
> > Message: 1 
> > Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001

09:22:04 -0500

> > From:

Shorty@...

> > Subject: Truly Portable Boat 
> > 
> > Not sure if this was posted before, just

spotted

> > this boat on eBay: 
> > 
> > 
>

<a
href="http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1018698701">http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1018698701</a>

> > 
> > Looks like a truly portable and reusable

boat.

> > 
> > Shorty 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
>

________________________________________________________________________

> > 
>

________________________________________________________________________

> > 
> > Message: 2 
> > Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001

14:39:00 -0000

> > From:

cha62759@...

> > Subject: Re: Bottom Paint 
> > 
> > --- In bolger@y..., David Ryan

<david@c...> wrote:

> > > FBBB -- 
> > > 
> > > The light scooner Margeret Ellen has

not faired

> > well under the no 
> > > bottom paint/scrub often plan and finds

herself

> in 
> > need of a haul out 
> > > for repairs and repainting. 
> > > 
> > > I'd like to give her a proper

antifouling paint

> > job, but find myself 
> > >> Suggestions? 
> > > 
> > > YIBB, 
> > > 
> > > David 
> > > 
> > > Hi David, I've used and am still using

VC-17m.

> > This has been in 
> > fresh relatively clean water. Lake Michigan,

and

> > Dillon reservoir in 
> > Colorado. It is a piece of cake to apply,

recoat

> and 
> > touch up. I am 
> > also using Interlux Bottomkote on my Typhoon

but

> > only because that is 
> > what was on it when I bought it. It has only

been

> in 
> > the water a 
> > couple of months so that is no test.

"Practical

> > Sailor" ran tests 
> > several years ago on bottom paints. I don't

recall

> > the conclusion. 
> > Bob Chamberland 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
>

________________________________________________________________________

> > 
>

________________________________________________________________________

> > 
> > Message: 3 
> > Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001

08:59:31 -0700

> > From: "Glen

Gibson" <glen@...>

> > Subject: Re: Bottom Paint 
> > 
> > 
> > This from a gentleman at Devlin Boat

builders when

> I 
> > asked about bottom 
> > finishes (Sam Devlins boat building book,

which I

> > like very much, 
> > recommended Copper Epoxy bottom finish, and

I

> > emailed to find out the 
> > manufacturer): 
> > 
> > We no longer use the

Copper Epoxy. While it is

> a 
> > good idea and the 
> > finish 
> > cures very hard, the application is a

nightmare. I

> > cringe at the thought 
> > of 
> > applying it. It was originally created by

System

> > Three and I believe the 
> > recipe 
> > was sold a couple of years back so I can't

say

> what 
> > label you can find 
> > it under. 
> > For the past five or six years we have used

Micron

> > CSC bottom paint 
> > exclusively, 
> > and that is what I would recommend. 
> > 
> > Glen 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
>

________________________________________________________________________

> > 
>

________________________________________________________________________

> > 
> > Message: 4 
> > Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001

14:13:15 -0400

> > From: David Ryan

<david@...>

> > Subject: Is this a new idea? 
> > 
> > FBBB -- 
> > 
> > While my wife and I are mostly committed

to

> staying 
> > here in New York, 
> > I have to admit there's more than a

little

> > temptation to close up 
> > shop and hit the open road in a

Winnebago.

> Naturally 
> > this brings up 
> > the question of the perfect boat to take

along on

> a 
> > year of camping. 
> > 
> > Ocean kayaks have always been popular as

camp

> boats 
> > in Baja 
> > California. Good for poking around in, big

enough

> to 
> > fish out of near 
>

> 
> 
> > - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming,

or

> > flogging dead horses 
> > - pls take "personals" off-list,

stay on topic,

> and 
> > punctuate 
> > - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN

your

> posts, 
> > snip all you like 
> > - To order plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O.

Box

> > 1209, Gloucester, MA, 01930, Fax: (978)

282-1349

> > - Unsubscribe:

bolger-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

> > 
>

------------------------------------------------------------------------

> > 
> > There are 14 messages in this issue. 
> > 
> > Topics in this digest: 
> > 
> > 1. Truly

Portable Boat

>
>

From: Shorty@...

> > 2. Re:

Bottom Paint

>
>

From: cha62759@...

> > 3. Re:

Bottom Paint

>
>

From: "Glen Gibson"
<glen@...>

> > 4. Is

this a new idea?

>
>

From: David Ryan

> > <david@...> 
> > 5.

CE/CLR (was OOOPS!)

>
>

From: wmrpage@...

> > 6. Re:

Is this a new idea?

>
>

From: mkstocks@...

> > 7. Re:

Is this a new idea?

>
>

From: mike_vacanti@...

> > 8. Re:

Is this a new idea?

>
>

From: mkstocks@...

> > 9. RE:

Re: Is this a new idea?

>
>

From: "Paul Lefebvre"
<paul@...>

> > 10. Re: Is

this a new idea?

>
>

From: stephen@...

> > 11. Re: CE/CLR

(was OOOPS!)

>
>

From: "Derek Waters"
<dgw@...>

> > 12. Re: Is

this a new idea?

>
>

From: shansen@...

> > 13. RE: CE/CLR

(was OOOPS!)

>
>

From: "Bill Kreamer"
<kreamer@...>

> > 14. Re: Is

this a new idea?

>
>

From: TRolaDIK@...

> > 
> > 
> > 
>

________________________________________________________________________

> > 
>

________________________________________________________________________

> > 
> > Message: 1 
> > Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001

09:22:04 -0500

> > From:

Shorty@...

> > Subject: Truly Portable Boat 
> > 
> > Not sure if this was posted before, just

spotted

> > this boat on eBay: 
> > 
> > 
>

<a
href="http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1018698701">http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1018698701</a>

> > 
> > Looks like a truly portable and reusable

boat.

> > 
> > Shorty 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
>

________________________________________________________________________

> > 
>

________________________________________________________________________

> > 
> > Message: 2 
> > Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001

14:39:00 -0000

> > From:

cha62759@...

> > Subject: Re: Bottom Paint 
> > 
> > --- In bolger@y..., David Ryan

<david@c...> wrote:

> > > FBBB -- 
> > > 
> > > The light scooner Margeret Ellen has

not faired

> > well under the no 
> > > bottom paint/scrub often plan and finds

herself

> in 
> > need of a haul out 
> > > for repairs and repainting. 
> > > 
> > > I'd like to give her a proper

antifouling paint

> > job, but find myself 
> > >> Suggestions? 
> > > 
> > > YIBB, 
> > > 
> > > David 
> > > 
> > > Hi David, I've used and am still using

VC-17m.

> > This has been in 
> > fresh relatively clean water. Lake Michigan,

and

> > Dillon reservoir in 
> > Colorado. It is a piece of cake to apply,

recoat

> and 
> > touch up. I am 
> > also using Interlux Bottomkote on my Typhoon

but

> > only because that is 
> > what was on it when I bought it. It has only

been

> in 
> > the water a 
> > couple of months so that is no test.

"Practical

> > Sailor" ran tests 
> > several years ago on bottom paints. I don't

recall

> > the conclusion. 
> > Bob Chamberland 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
>

________________________________________________________________________

> > 
>

________________________________________________________________________

> > 
> > Message: 3 
> > Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001

08:59:31 -0700

> > From: "Glen

Gibson" <glen@...>

> > Subject: Re: Bottom Paint 
> > 
> > 
> > This from a gentleman at Devlin Boat

builders when

> I 
> > asked about bottom 
> > finishes (Sam Devlins boat building book,

which I

> > like very much, 
> > recommended Copper Epoxy bottom finish, and

I

> > emailed to find out the 
> > manufacturer): 
> > 
> > We no longer use the

Copper Epoxy. While it is

> a 
> > good idea and the 
> > finish 
> > cures very hard, the application is a

nightmare. I

> > cringe at the thought 
> > of 
> > applying it. It was originally created by

System

> > Three and I believe the 
> > recipe 
> > was sold a couple of years back so I can't

say

> what 
> > label you can find 
> > it under. 
> > For the past five or six years we have used

Micron

> > CSC bottom paint 
> > exclusively, 
> > and that is what I would recommend. 
> > 
> > Glen 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
>

________________________________________________________________________

> > 
>

________________________________________________________________________

> > 
> > Message: 4 
> > Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001

14:13:15 -0400

> > From: David Ryan

<david@...>

> > Subject: Is this a new idea? 
> > 
> > FBBB -- 
> > 
> > While my wife and I are mostly committed

to

> staying 
> > here in New York, 
> > I have to admit there's more than a

little

> > temptation to close up 
> > shop and hit the open road in a

Winnebago.

> Naturally 
> > this brings up 
> > the question of the perfect boat to take

along on

> a 
> > year of camping. 
> > 
> > Ocean kayaks have always been popular as

camp

> boats 
> > in Baja 
> > California. Good for poking around in, big

enough

> to 
> > fish out of near 
>

Try a local welder. I had good luck with one that advertised in the yellow
pages they made trailers. I had them made up a trailer to fit my Chebacco
that tows like a dream -- we covered about 1300 highway miles this summer.

I had spoken before to a trailer salesman, but he kept telling me what I
wanted without listening to what I said I wanted.

Jamie Orr

-----Original Message-----
From: Sam Glasscock [mailto:glasscocklanding@...]
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 5:55 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Trailer for Topaz

I will be pulling my Topaz out of the garage/shelter
this spring (or maybe not--its a pretty tight fit, I
may have to burn the house around her) and have
started looking for a trailer to hold her. She is 31'
long and about 6' max. beam at the waterline. Bolger
recommends a 3000# single axle trailer--I have had no
luck finding a single or double axle production
trailer anywhere near that light that will take her
length. I am afraid a heavily-sprung trailer will
shake her to pieces. Finding used trailers (better
than junk) to modify down here in the salt is tough or
worse. Any advice on how to buy/modify/fabricate a
trailer for Bolger's Topaz? Trailers for the "state"
series (Sneakeasy, Tennesee, Idaho, etc.)of sharpies
must have similar requirements. Any advice would be
appreciated.

Sam

>
>
> > - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or
> > flogging dead horses
> > - pls take "personals" off-list, stay on topic,
> and
> > punctuate
> > - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your
> posts,
> > snip all you like
> > - To order plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box
> > 1209, Gloucester, MA, 01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
> > - Unsubscribe:bolger-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> >
>

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> >
> > There are 14 messages in this issue.
> >
> > Topics in this digest:
> >
> > 1. Truly Portable Boat
> > From:Shorty@...
> > 2. Re: Bottom Paint
> > From:cha62759@...
> > 3. Re: Bottom Paint
> > From: "Glen Gibson" <glen@...>
> > 4. Is this a new idea?
> > From: David Ryan
> > <david@...>
> > 5. CE/CLR (was OOOPS!)
> > From:wmrpage@...
> > 6. Re: Is this a new idea?
> > From:mkstocks@...
> > 7. Re: Is this a new idea?
> > From:mike_vacanti@...
> > 8. Re: Is this a new idea?
> > From:mkstocks@...
> > 9. RE: Re: Is this a new idea?
> > From: "Paul Lefebvre" <paul@...>
> > 10. Re: Is this a new idea?
> > From:stephen@...
> > 11. Re: CE/CLR (was OOOPS!)
> > From: "Derek Waters" <dgw@...>
> > 12. Re: Is this a new idea?
> > From:shansen@...
> > 13. RE: CE/CLR (was OOOPS!)
> > From: "Bill Kreamer" <kreamer@...>
> > 14. Re: Is this a new idea?
> > From:TRolaDIK@...
> >
> >
> >
>

________________________________________________________________________

> >
>

________________________________________________________________________

> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 09:22:04 -0500
> > From:Shorty@...
> > Subject: Truly Portable Boat
> >
> > Not sure if this was posted before, just spotted
> > this boat on eBay:
> >
> >
>

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1018698701

> >
> > Looks like a truly portable and reusable boat.
> >
> > Shorty
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

________________________________________________________________________

> >
>

________________________________________________________________________

> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 14:39:00 -0000
> > From:cha62759@...
> > Subject: Re: Bottom Paint
> >
> > --- In bolger@y..., David Ryan <david@c...> wrote:
> > > FBBB --
> > >
> > > The light scooner Margeret Ellen has not faired
> > well under the no
> > > bottom paint/scrub often plan and finds herself
> in
> > need of a haul out
> > > for repairs and repainting.
> > >
> > > I'd like to give her a proper antifouling paint
> > job, but find myself
> > >> Suggestions?
> > >
> > > YIBB,
> > >
> > > David
> > >
> > > Hi David, I've used and am still using VC-17m.
> > This has been in
> > fresh relatively clean water. Lake Michigan, and
> > Dillon reservoir in
> > Colorado. It is a piece of cake to apply, recoat
> and
> > touch up. I am
> > also using Interlux Bottomkote on my Typhoon but
> > only because that is
> > what was on it when I bought it. It has only been
> in
> > the water a
> > couple of months so that is no test. "Practical
> > Sailor" ran tests
> > several years ago on bottom paints. I don't recall
> > the conclusion.
> > Bob Chamberland
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

________________________________________________________________________

> >
>

________________________________________________________________________

> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 08:59:31 -0700
> > From: "Glen Gibson" <glen@...>
> > Subject: Re: Bottom Paint
> >
> >
> > This from a gentleman at Devlin Boat builders when
> I
> > asked about bottom
> > finishes (Sam Devlins boat building book, which I
> > like very much,
> > recommended Copper Epoxy bottom finish, and I
> > emailed to find out the
> > manufacturer):
> >
> > We no longer use the Copper Epoxy. While it is
> a
> > good idea and the
> > finish
> > cures very hard, the application is a nightmare. I
> > cringe at the thought
> > of
> > applying it. It was originally created by System
> > Three and I believe the
> > recipe
> > was sold a couple of years back so I can't say
> what
> > label you can find
> > it under.
> > For the past five or six years we have used Micron
> > CSC bottom paint
> > exclusively,
> > and that is what I would recommend.
> >
> > Glen
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

________________________________________________________________________

> >
>

________________________________________________________________________

> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 14:13:15 -0400
> > From: David Ryan <david@...>
> > Subject: Is this a new idea?
> >
> > FBBB --
> >
> > While my wife and I are mostly committed to
> staying
> > here in New York,
> > I have to admit there's more than a little
> > temptation to close up
> > shop and hit the open road in a Winnebago.
> Naturally
> > this brings up
> > the question of the perfect boat to take along on
> a
> > year of camping.
> >
> > Ocean kayaks have always been popular as camp
> boats
> > in Baja
> > California. Good for poking around in, big enough
> to
> > fish out of near
>

=== message truncated ===

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I will be pulling my Topaz out of the garage/shelter
this spring (or maybe not--its a pretty tight fit, I
may have to burn the house around her) and have
started looking for a trailer to hold her. She is 31'
long and about 6' max. beam at the waterline. Bolger
recommends a 3000# single axle trailer--I have had no
luck finding a single or double axle production
trailer anywhere near that light that will take her
length. I am afraid a heavily-sprung trailer will
shake her to pieces. Finding used trailers (better
than junk) to modify down here in the salt is tough or
worse. Any advice on how to buy/modify/fabricate a
trailer for Bolger's Topaz? Trailers for the "state"
series (Sneakeasy, Tennesee, Idaho, etc.)of sharpies
must have similar requirements. Any advice would be
appreciated.

Sam

>
>
> > - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or
> > flogging dead horses
> > - pls take "personals" off-list, stay on topic,
> and
> > punctuate
> > - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your
> posts,
> > snip all you like
> > - To order plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box
> > 1209, Gloucester, MA, 01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
> > - Unsubscribe:bolger-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> >
>

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> >
> > There are 14 messages in this issue.
> >
> > Topics in this digest:
> >
> > 1. Truly Portable Boat
> > From:Shorty@...
> > 2. Re: Bottom Paint
> > From:cha62759@...
> > 3. Re: Bottom Paint
> > From: "Glen Gibson" <glen@...>
> > 4. Is this a new idea?
> > From: David Ryan
> > <david@...>
> > 5. CE/CLR (was OOOPS!)
> > From:wmrpage@...
> > 6. Re: Is this a new idea?
> > From:mkstocks@...
> > 7. Re: Is this a new idea?
> > From:mike_vacanti@...
> > 8. Re: Is this a new idea?
> > From:mkstocks@...
> > 9. RE: Re: Is this a new idea?
> > From: "Paul Lefebvre" <paul@...>
> > 10. Re: Is this a new idea?
> > From:stephen@...
> > 11. Re: CE/CLR (was OOOPS!)
> > From: "Derek Waters" <dgw@...>
> > 12. Re: Is this a new idea?
> > From:shansen@...
> > 13. RE: CE/CLR (was OOOPS!)
> > From: "Bill Kreamer" <kreamer@...>
> > 14. Re: Is this a new idea?
> > From:TRolaDIK@...
> >
> >
> >
>

________________________________________________________________________

> >
>

________________________________________________________________________

> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 09:22:04 -0500
> > From:Shorty@...
> > Subject: Truly Portable Boat
> >
> > Not sure if this was posted before, just spotted
> > this boat on eBay:
> >
> >
>

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1018698701

> >
> > Looks like a truly portable and reusable boat.
> >
> > Shorty
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

________________________________________________________________________

> >
>

________________________________________________________________________

> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 14:39:00 -0000
> > From:cha62759@...
> > Subject: Re: Bottom Paint
> >
> > --- In bolger@y..., David Ryan <david@c...> wrote:
> > > FBBB --
> > >
> > > The light scooner Margeret Ellen has not faired
> > well under the no
> > > bottom paint/scrub often plan and finds herself
> in
> > need of a haul out
> > > for repairs and repainting.
> > >
> > > I'd like to give her a proper antifouling paint
> > job, but find myself
> > >> Suggestions?
> > >
> > > YIBB,
> > >
> > > David
> > >
> > > Hi David, I've used and am still using VC-17m.
> > This has been in
> > fresh relatively clean water. Lake Michigan, and
> > Dillon reservoir in
> > Colorado. It is a piece of cake to apply, recoat
> and
> > touch up. I am
> > also using Interlux Bottomkote on my Typhoon but
> > only because that is
> > what was on it when I bought it. It has only been
> in
> > the water a
> > couple of months so that is no test. "Practical
> > Sailor" ran tests
> > several years ago on bottom paints. I don't recall
> > the conclusion.
> > Bob Chamberland
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

________________________________________________________________________

> >
>

________________________________________________________________________

> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 08:59:31 -0700
> > From: "Glen Gibson" <glen@...>
> > Subject: Re: Bottom Paint
> >
> >
> > This from a gentleman at Devlin Boat builders when
> I
> > asked about bottom
> > finishes (Sam Devlins boat building book, which I
> > like very much,
> > recommended Copper Epoxy bottom finish, and I
> > emailed to find out the
> > manufacturer):
> >
> > We no longer use the Copper Epoxy. While it is
> a
> > good idea and the
> > finish
> > cures very hard, the application is a nightmare. I
> > cringe at the thought
> > of
> > applying it. It was originally created by System
> > Three and I believe the
> > recipe
> > was sold a couple of years back so I can't say
> what
> > label you can find
> > it under.
> > For the past five or six years we have used Micron
> > CSC bottom paint
> > exclusively,
> > and that is what I would recommend.
> >
> > Glen
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

________________________________________________________________________

> >
>

________________________________________________________________________

> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 14:13:15 -0400
> > From: David Ryan <david@...>
> > Subject: Is this a new idea?
> >
> > FBBB --
> >
> > While my wife and I are mostly committed to
> staying
> > here in New York,
> > I have to admit there's more than a little
> > temptation to close up
> > shop and hit the open road in a Winnebago.
> Naturally
> > this brings up
> > the question of the perfect boat to take along on
> a
> > year of camping.
> >
> > Ocean kayaks have always been popular as camp
> boats
> > in Baja
> > California. Good for poking around in, big enough
> to
> > fish out of near
>

=== message truncated ===

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ive started building a bantam in fort pierce florida
almost ready to assemble the main hull nice detailed
plans pretty straightforward so far mostly light
plywood this may t be the second one bolger mentioed
making some corrections basesd on a hands on
inspection of the prototypecaptjbturtle@...

> Bolger rules!!!
> - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or
> flogging dead horses
> - pls take "personals" off-list, stay on topic, and
> punctuate
> - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts,
> snip all you like
> - To order plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box
> 1209, Gloucester, MA, 01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
> - Unsubscribe:bolger-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>

------------------------------------------------------------------------

>
> There are 14 messages in this issue.
>
> Topics in this digest:
>
> 1. Truly Portable Boat
> From:Shorty@...
> 2. Re: Bottom Paint
> From:cha62759@...
> 3. Re: Bottom Paint
> From: "Glen Gibson" <glen@...>
> 4. Is this a new idea?
> From: David Ryan
> <david@...>
> 5. CE/CLR (was OOOPS!)
> From:wmrpage@...
> 6. Re: Is this a new idea?
> From:mkstocks@...
> 7. Re: Is this a new idea?
> From:mike_vacanti@...
> 8. Re: Is this a new idea?
> From:mkstocks@...
> 9. RE: Re: Is this a new idea?
> From: "Paul Lefebvre" <paul@...>
> 10. Re: Is this a new idea?
> From:stephen@...
> 11. Re: CE/CLR (was OOOPS!)
> From: "Derek Waters" <dgw@...>
> 12. Re: Is this a new idea?
> From:shansen@...
> 13. RE: CE/CLR (was OOOPS!)
> From: "Bill Kreamer" <kreamer@...>
> 14. Re: Is this a new idea?
> From:TRolaDIK@...
>
>
>

________________________________________________________________________

>

________________________________________________________________________

>
> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 09:22:04 -0500
> From:Shorty@...
> Subject: Truly Portable Boat
>
> Not sure if this was posted before, just spotted
> this boat on eBay:
>
>

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1018698701

>
> Looks like a truly portable and reusable boat.
>
> Shorty
>
>
>
>

________________________________________________________________________

>

________________________________________________________________________

>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 14:39:00 -0000
> From:cha62759@...
> Subject: Re: Bottom Paint
>
> --- In bolger@y..., David Ryan <david@c...> wrote:
> > FBBB --
> >
> > The light scooner Margeret Ellen has not faired
> well under the no
> > bottom paint/scrub often plan and finds herself in
> need of a haul out
> > for repairs and repainting.
> >
> > I'd like to give her a proper antifouling paint
> job, but find myself
> >> Suggestions?
> >
> > YIBB,
> >
> > David
> >
> > Hi David, I've used and am still using VC-17m.
> This has been in
> fresh relatively clean water. Lake Michigan, and
> Dillon reservoir in
> Colorado. It is a piece of cake to apply, recoat and
> touch up. I am
> also using Interlux Bottomkote on my Typhoon but
> only because that is
> what was on it when I bought it. It has only been in
> the water a
> couple of months so that is no test. "Practical
> Sailor" ran tests
> several years ago on bottom paints. I don't recall
> the conclusion.
> Bob Chamberland
>
>
>
>

________________________________________________________________________

>

________________________________________________________________________

>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 08:59:31 -0700
> From: "Glen Gibson" <glen@...>
> Subject: Re: Bottom Paint
>
>
> This from a gentleman at Devlin Boat builders when I
> asked about bottom
> finishes (Sam Devlins boat building book, which I
> like very much,
> recommended Copper Epoxy bottom finish, and I
> emailed to find out the
> manufacturer):
>
> We no longer use the Copper Epoxy. While it is a
> good idea and the
> finish
> cures very hard, the application is a nightmare. I
> cringe at the thought
> of
> applying it. It was originally created by System
> Three and I believe the
> recipe
> was sold a couple of years back so I can't say what
> label you can find
> it under.
> For the past five or six years we have used Micron
> CSC bottom paint
> exclusively,
> and that is what I would recommend.
>
> Glen
>
>
>
>

________________________________________________________________________

>

________________________________________________________________________

>
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 14:13:15 -0400
> From: David Ryan <david@...>
> Subject: Is this a new idea?
>
> FBBB --
>
> While my wife and I are mostly committed to staying
> here in New York,
> I have to admit there's more than a little
> temptation to close up
> shop and hit the open road in a Winnebago. Naturally
> this brings up
> the question of the perfect boat to take along on a
> year of camping.
>
> Ocean kayaks have always been popular as camp boats
> in Baja
> California. Good for poking around in, big enough to
> fish out of near
> shore. I've seen plenty of couples traveling with
> his and hers kayaks
> having a blast. Only problem are when you stop
> paddling they stop
> going, and who's going to watch our daughter when my
> wife and I are
> out paddling?
>
> Zodiac type inflatables are also popular. Good for
> fishing or diving,
> but not really my idea of boating for boating's sake
> fun.
>
> Then I had an idea. What if you had a pair of kayaks
> that could
> easily be converted into pontoons for catamaran that
> would be driven
> by motor, sails or oars. The sailing needn't be a
> powerful beach cat
> rig, just something that would let you glide along
> at a modest clip.
> A motor could make her a nice fishing/diving
> platform, and why *not*
> have a way to drive it with oars -- that's my
> preferred way of
> getting off the beach, I'll harden the sheet (or try
> to start the
> motor) once I'm well clear of the impact zone thank
> you very much.
> When Dad wants to make an early morning fishing trip
> (or Mom just
>

=== message truncated ===

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Sam:

I have modified "standard" trailers to fit long plywood boats twice now. Once for my Tennessee, and recently for my Caprice. Each time, I was able to locate a used trailer of about the right load capacity. Each time I simply lengthened the tongue. I used a piece of regular 3" x 1/8" regular steel box beam welded as an extension to the old tongue. If I had a galvinized trailer, I might have used light "H" beam and had it dipped then bolted in place of the original tongue.

As an alternative, if you went to a small trailer manufacturer, they would probably do a custom job for you. Good luck!

Chuck

----- Original Message -----
From: Sam Glasscock
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 7:55 Bonham
Subject: [bolger] Trailer for Topaz

I will be pulling my Topaz out of the garage/shelter
this spring (or maybe not--its a pretty tight fit, I
may have to burn the house around her) and have
started looking for a trailer to hold her. She is 31'
long and about 6' max. beam at the waterline. Bolger
recommends a 3000# single axle trailer--I have had no
luck finding a single or double axle production
trailer anywhere near that light that will take her
length. I am afraid a heavily-sprung trailer will
shake her to pieces. Finding used trailers (better
than junk) to modify down here in the salt is tough or
worse. Any advice on how to buy/modify/fabricate a
trailer for Bolger's Topaz? Trailers for the "state"
series (Sneakeasy, Tennesee, Idaho, etc.)of sharpies
must have similar requirements. Any advice would be
appreciated.

Sam
>
>
> > - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or
> > flogging dead horses
> > - pls take "personals" off-list, stay on topic,
> and
> > punctuate
> > - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your
> posts,
> > snip all you like
> > - To order plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box
> > 1209, Gloucester, MA, 01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
> > - Unsubscribe:bolger-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> >
>
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> >
> > There are 14 messages in this issue.
> >
> > Topics in this digest:
> >
> > 1. Truly Portable Boat
> > From:Shorty@...
> > 2. Re: Bottom Paint
> > From:cha62759@...
> > 3. Re: Bottom Paint
> > From: "Glen Gibson" <glen@...>
> > 4. Is this a new idea?
> > From: David Ryan
> > <david@...>
> > 5. CE/CLR (was OOOPS!)
> > From:wmrpage@...
> > 6. Re: Is this a new idea?
> > From:mkstocks@...
> > 7. Re: Is this a new idea?
> > From:mike_vacanti@...
> > 8. Re: Is this a new idea?
> > From:mkstocks@...
> > 9. RE: Re: Is this a new idea?
> > From: "Paul Lefebvre" <paul@...>
> > 10. Re: Is this a new idea?
> > From:stephen@...
> > 11. Re: CE/CLR (was OOOPS!)
> > From: "Derek Waters" <dgw@...>
> > 12. Re: Is this a new idea?
> > From:shansen@...
> > 13. RE: CE/CLR (was OOOPS!)
> > From: "Bill Kreamer" <kreamer@...>
> > 14. Re: Is this a new idea?
> > From:TRolaDIK@...
> >
> >
> >
>
________________________________________________________________________
> >
>
________________________________________________________________________
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 09:22:04 -0500
> > From:Shorty@...
> > Subject: Truly Portable Boat
> >
> > Not sure if this was posted before, just spotted
> > this boat on eBay:
> >
> >
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1018698701
> >
> > Looks like a truly portable and reusable boat.
> >
> > Shorty
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
________________________________________________________________________
> >
>
________________________________________________________________________
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 14:39:00 -0000
> > From:cha62759@...
> > Subject: Re: Bottom Paint
> >
> > --- In bolger@y..., David Ryan <david@c...> wrote:
> > > FBBB --
> > >
> > > The light scooner Margeret Ellen has not faired
> > well under the no
> > > bottom paint/scrub often plan and finds herself
> in
> > need of a haul out
> > > for repairs and repainting.
> > >
> > > I'd like to give her a proper antifouling paint
> > job, but find myself
> > >> Suggestions?
> > >
> > > YIBB,
> > >
> > > David
> > >
> > > Hi David, I've used and am still using VC-17m.
> > This has been in
> > fresh relatively clean water. Lake Michigan, and
> > Dillon reservoir in
> > Colorado. It is a piece of cake to apply, recoat
> and
> > touch up. I am
> > also using Interlux Bottomkote on my Typhoon but
> > only because that is
> > what was on it when I bought it. It has only been
> in
> > the water a
> > couple of months so that is no test. "Practical
> > Sailor" ran tests
> > several years ago on bottom paints. I don't recall
> > the conclusion.
> > Bob Chamberland
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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> >
>
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> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 08:59:31 -0700
> > From: "Glen Gibson" <glen@...>
> > Subject: Re: Bottom Paint
> >
> >
> > This from a gentleman at Devlin Boat builders when
> I
> > asked about bottom
> > finishes (Sam Devlins boat building book, which I
> > like very much,
> > recommended Copper Epoxy bottom finish, and I
> > emailed to find out the
> > manufacturer):
> >
> > We no longer use the Copper Epoxy. While it is
> a
> > good idea and the
> > finish
> > cures very hard, the application is a nightmare. I
> > cringe at the thought
> > of
> > applying it. It was originally created by System
> > Three and I believe the
> > recipe
> > was sold a couple of years back so I can't say
> what
> > label you can find
> > it under.
> > For the past five or six years we have used Micron
> > CSC bottom paint
> > exclusively,
> > and that is what I would recommend.
> >
> > Glen
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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> >
>
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> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 14:13:15 -0400
> > From: David Ryan <david@...>
> > Subject: Is this a new idea?
> >
> > FBBB --
> >
> > While my wife and I are mostly committed to
> staying
> > here in New York,
> > I have to admit there's more than a little
> > temptation to close up
> > shop and hit the open road in a Winnebago.
> Naturally
> > this brings up
> > the question of the perfect boat to take along on
> a
> > year of camping.
> >
> > Ocean kayaks have always been popular as camp
> boats
> > in Baja
> > California. Good for poking around in, big enough
> to
> > fish out of near
>
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