Re: [bolger] Re: Carnell's $200 Sailboat (was How to avoid armchairitis.)
I built the $200 sailboat using the glass tape and fiberglas
method with no chine log. Works fine but what I should have done is follow the plans. It would have been a lot less
work. My buddy built a similar boat using polyurethane
glue exclusively. In about two years of use the only difference that I can see is that paint did not seal his exposed ply edges nearly as well as epoxy did. So far as the joints go his seem to have held up just as well as my
epoxy did. We dont leave the boats in the water, they
are only in when used.
I would not hesitate to use the polyurethane in the future for
any joint in a boat that does not live in the water. I would seal the outside corners with light fiberglas tape and epoxy.
James Fuller
method with no chine log. Works fine but what I should have done is follow the plans. It would have been a lot less
work. My buddy built a similar boat using polyurethane
glue exclusively. In about two years of use the only difference that I can see is that paint did not seal his exposed ply edges nearly as well as epoxy did. So far as the joints go his seem to have held up just as well as my
epoxy did. We dont leave the boats in the water, they
are only in when used.
I would not hesitate to use the polyurethane in the future for
any joint in a boat that does not live in the water. I would seal the outside corners with light fiberglas tape and epoxy.
James Fuller
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Subject: [bolger] Re: Carnell's $200 Sailboat (was How to avoid armchairitis.)
A friend and i put together Carnells boat using weldwood. It worked
fine. We did use epoxy after to coat all exposed surfaces so not much
was saved. The weldwood though is cheap and easy.
--- In bolger@y..., "Roger S" <roger99a@h...> wrote:
> I should have stayed in college until I had it piled high....
>
> Anyway, what construction method is used on the $200 sailboat? I'm
> thinking about putting one together real cheap so I won't be
> intimidated about modifying the rig six or eight times while I
> experiment with it. I spent too much time and money on my Gypsy to
> start cutting new mast holes in her or installing an "A" frame for a
> crab claw rig.
>
>
> Roger S
>
> --- In bolger@y..., PseudoDion3@a... wrote:
> > Roger -- Yes, the Carnell $200 sailboat goes together that
quickly.
> > However, my work as a college professor gives me a great deal of
> free
> > time during the summer months -- a luxury that permits me to build
> > without many interruptions. So, it may take a wee bit longer to
> build
> > for others. Too, I tried to follow the plans to a "T" without much
> > interpretation or making her into a "gold plater" by attending to
a
> > lot of small details that would have certainly contributed to her
> > beauty. If I built her again, I would take more time and be more
> > meticulous about looks than I was. But, this was merely
> a "practice"
> > boat for me to see if it would have been worth my time to try
other
> > designs or develop skills that would enhance the aesthetic details
> of
> > the boat.
> > The $200 boat would be a good hull for rig experimentation.
> Dave
> > Carnell offers an alternative lug rig for the boat, but I think a
> > sprit rig would do nicely on her too.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Dennis Marshall
> >
> > --- In bolger@y..., "Roger S" <roger99a@h...> wrote:
> > > I enjoyed the article immensely, and chuckled with an air of
> > > superiority, knowing that I only built my transom twice before
it
> > fit.
> > >
> > > What really impressed me was the building time. The beautiful
> > Donna
> > > was widowed for months while I built my Gypsy. Is Dave's $200
> > boat
> > > that fast to build? I'm thinking about a second boat to use for
> > > experimental rigs.
> > >
> > > Roger S
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In bolger@y..., PseudoDion3@a... wrote:
> > > > Peter,
> > > > Thanks so much for your kind words regarding the
Duckworks
> > > > magazine article. Chuck's hope is that my experiences will
> > > encourage
> > > > first time builders to take the plunge and perhaps give a
> chuckle
> > > to
> > > > the more experienced builders whose follies in their first
> > attempt
> > > > were somewhat similar to mine.
> > > > What was not said in the article is that not only was
this
> > my
> > > > first boat building experience (of building anything for that
> > > matter)
> > > > but it was also my first time sailing ever! A life long dream
> of
> > > mine
> > > > was realized and this is one instance where the reality far
> > > surpassed
> > > > the expectations of my dreams.
> > > > Also, not five minutes after the "happy sailor" picture
> was
> > > > snapped by my gracious wife the rudder came unshipped during a
> > tack
> > > > and we were blown into someone's dock and entagled in all
sorts
> > of
> > > > things before we could work ourselves loose. Taken in stride,
> > even
> > > > such sailing faux pas could not dampen our enthusiasm. Even
> > before
> > > we
> > > > launched the boat, my wife, Terry, insisted that I take
sailing
> > > > lessons before she would get in the boat with me. You can see
> > from
> > > > the pics who the first one in was! In the dozen times I've had
> it
> > > > out, I've never dumped the boat -- it is amazingly stable and
> > > > forgiving. Not to mention the fact that God watches over
fools!
> I
> > > was
> > > > dismasted by a 25mph breeze -- a knot in the mast weakened it
> in
> > a
> > > > strategic spot. I've had it on lakes and sailed up and down
the
> > > > Grand River to the delight of many who had never seen anything
> > but
> > > a
> > > > power boat or rowing dinghy on it. All in all, a very
> satisfying
> > > > experience.
> > > > If I lament anything, it is that I started too late in
> both
> > > the
> > > > summer and in life to attempt building and sailing a boat.
> While
> > > life
> > > > circumstances would have made this difficult anyway, doubts
> about
> > > > whether I could do it made it impossible. I would simply
> > encourage
> > > > others who might be in a similar frame of mind to throw
caution
> > to
> > > > the wind and saw wood. Life is too short to talk yourself out
> of
> > > > creating something beautiful that will bring joy to others as
> > well
> > > as
> > > > yourself.
> > > >
> > > > Ok -- I'm off the soap box!
> > > >
> > > > Warm Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Dennis Marshall
> > > >
> > > > --- In bolger@y..., ellengaest@b... wrote:
> > > > > Bolgerados!
> > > > > For all who find themselves up to their chins in
nautical
> > > > > literature,slowly collecting study plans,buying "How to
> Build"
> > > boat
> > > > > books,waisting precious hours dreaming of building a certain
> > boat
> > > > (or
> > > > > any boat!),stock-piling every tool the local hardware store
> > > stocks
> > > > and
> > > > > yet despite it all just don't think they have what it takes
> to
> > > > > actually build themselves a boat.............Well,for a
> > > positively
> > > > > up-lifting and encouraging tale,check out Dennis's recent
> > article
> > > > in
> > > > > Duckworks Magazine.He confesses to being a first time
> > > > builder,loaded
> > > > > down with doubts yet manages to pull off a wonderfull
> rendering
> > > of
> > > > the
> > > > > "$200.00 sailboat" by Dave Carnell/Phil Bolger.
> > > > > To help you on your way toward taking that first nervous
> > saw
> > > > blade
> > > > > to wood,here is the link to his article:
> > > > >
> > > > >
>http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/articles/inscrutable/index.htm
> > > > >
> > > > > That wasn't so hard now,was it? Just think how much fun
> YOU
> > > > will
> > > > > have making saw dust and ending up with a thing of beauty to
> > > > treasure
> > > > > and enjoy for many years to come!
> > > > > O.K.,that's it for me.Just feeling better and a wee bit
> > > excited
> > > > by
> > > > > another successful build.Kinda makes me wish it was summer
> > > outside
> > > > > and not this gastly harbinger to winter called autumn......
> > > > >
> > > > > Bravo Dennis!
> > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > Peter Lenihan,fantasizing about what it must be like to live
> in
> > a
> > > > year
> > > > > round warm climate,from the cold and getting colder shores
of
> > the
> > > > > St.Lawrence................
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A friend and i put together Carnells boat using weldwood. It worked
fine. We did use epoxy after to coat all exposed surfaces so not much
was saved. The weldwood though is cheap and easy.
fine. We did use epoxy after to coat all exposed surfaces so not much
was saved. The weldwood though is cheap and easy.
--- In bolger@y..., "Roger S" <roger99a@h...> wrote:
> I should have stayed in college until I had it piled high....
>
> Anyway, what construction method is used on the $200 sailboat? I'm
> thinking about putting one together real cheap so I won't be
> intimidated about modifying the rig six or eight times while I
> experiment with it. I spent too much time and money on my Gypsy to
> start cutting new mast holes in her or installing an "A" frame for a
> crab claw rig.
>
>
> Roger S
>
> --- In bolger@y..., PseudoDion3@a... wrote:
> > Roger -- Yes, the Carnell $200 sailboat goes together that
quickly.
> > However, my work as a college professor gives me a great deal of
> free
> > time during the summer months -- a luxury that permits me to build
> > without many interruptions. So, it may take a wee bit longer to
> build
> > for others. Too, I tried to follow the plans to a "T" without much
> > interpretation or making her into a "gold plater" by attending to
a
> > lot of small details that would have certainly contributed to her
> > beauty. If I built her again, I would take more time and be more
> > meticulous about looks than I was. But, this was merely
> a "practice"
> > boat for me to see if it would have been worth my time to try
other
> > designs or develop skills that would enhance the aesthetic details
> of
> > the boat.
> > The $200 boat would be a good hull for rig experimentation.
> Dave
> > Carnell offers an alternative lug rig for the boat, but I think a
> > sprit rig would do nicely on her too.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Dennis Marshall
> >
> > --- In bolger@y..., "Roger S" <roger99a@h...> wrote:
> > > I enjoyed the article immensely, and chuckled with an air of
> > > superiority, knowing that I only built my transom twice before
it
> > fit.
> > >
> > > What really impressed me was the building time. The beautiful
> > Donna
> > > was widowed for months while I built my Gypsy. Is Dave's $200
> > boat
> > > that fast to build? I'm thinking about a second boat to use for
> > > experimental rigs.
> > >
> > > Roger S
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In bolger@y..., PseudoDion3@a... wrote:
> > > > Peter,
> > > > Thanks so much for your kind words regarding the
Duckworks
> > > > magazine article. Chuck's hope is that my experiences will
> > > encourage
> > > > first time builders to take the plunge and perhaps give a
> chuckle
> > > to
> > > > the more experienced builders whose follies in their first
> > attempt
> > > > were somewhat similar to mine.
> > > > What was not said in the article is that not only was
this
> > my
> > > > first boat building experience (of building anything for that
> > > matter)
> > > > but it was also my first time sailing ever! A life long dream
> of
> > > mine
> > > > was realized and this is one instance where the reality far
> > > surpassed
> > > > the expectations of my dreams.
> > > > Also, not five minutes after the "happy sailor" picture
> was
> > > > snapped by my gracious wife the rudder came unshipped during a
> > tack
> > > > and we were blown into someone's dock and entagled in all
sorts
> > of
> > > > things before we could work ourselves loose. Taken in stride,
> > even
> > > > such sailing faux pas could not dampen our enthusiasm. Even
> > before
> > > we
> > > > launched the boat, my wife, Terry, insisted that I take
sailing
> > > > lessons before she would get in the boat with me. You can see
> > from
> > > > the pics who the first one in was! In the dozen times I've had
> it
> > > > out, I've never dumped the boat -- it is amazingly stable and
> > > > forgiving. Not to mention the fact that God watches over
fools!
> I
> > > was
> > > > dismasted by a 25mph breeze -- a knot in the mast weakened it
> in
> > a
> > > > strategic spot. I've had it on lakes and sailed up and down
the
> > > > Grand River to the delight of many who had never seen anything
> > but
> > > a
> > > > power boat or rowing dinghy on it. All in all, a very
> satisfying
> > > > experience.
> > > > If I lament anything, it is that I started too late in
> both
> > > the
> > > > summer and in life to attempt building and sailing a boat.
> While
> > > life
> > > > circumstances would have made this difficult anyway, doubts
> about
> > > > whether I could do it made it impossible. I would simply
> > encourage
> > > > others who might be in a similar frame of mind to throw
caution
> > to
> > > > the wind and saw wood. Life is too short to talk yourself out
> of
> > > > creating something beautiful that will bring joy to others as
> > well
> > > as
> > > > yourself.
> > > >
> > > > Ok -- I'm off the soap box!
> > > >
> > > > Warm Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Dennis Marshall
> > > >
> > > > --- In bolger@y..., ellengaest@b... wrote:
> > > > > Bolgerados!
> > > > > For all who find themselves up to their chins in
nautical
> > > > > literature,slowly collecting study plans,buying "How to
> Build"
> > > boat
> > > > > books,waisting precious hours dreaming of building a certain
> > boat
> > > > (or
> > > > > any boat!),stock-piling every tool the local hardware store
> > > stocks
> > > > and
> > > > > yet despite it all just don't think they have what it takes
> to
> > > > > actually build themselves a boat.............Well,for a
> > > positively
> > > > > up-lifting and encouraging tale,check out Dennis's recent
> > article
> > > > in
> > > > > Duckworks Magazine.He confesses to being a first time
> > > > builder,loaded
> > > > > down with doubts yet manages to pull off a wonderfull
> rendering
> > > of
> > > > the
> > > > > "$200.00 sailboat" by Dave Carnell/Phil Bolger.
> > > > > To help you on your way toward taking that first nervous
> > saw
> > > > blade
> > > > > to wood,here is the link to his article:
> > > > >
> > > > >
>http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/articles/inscrutable/index.htm
> > > > >
> > > > > That wasn't so hard now,was it? Just think how much fun
> YOU
> > > > will
> > > > > have making saw dust and ending up with a thing of beauty to
> > > > treasure
> > > > > and enjoy for many years to come!
> > > > > O.K.,that's it for me.Just feeling better and a wee bit
> > > excited
> > > > by
> > > > > another successful build.Kinda makes me wish it was summer
> > > outside
> > > > > and not this gastly harbinger to winter called autumn......
> > > > >
> > > > > Bravo Dennis!
> > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > Peter Lenihan,fantasizing about what it must be like to live
> in
> > a
> > > > year
> > > > > round warm climate,from the cold and getting colder shores
of
> > the
> > > > > St.Lawrence................
I used PL in above water line joints(gunwales/inwales). I used 3M
5200 on the chine boards, stem and transom. The plans call for a
butt joint in the ply sides. I scarfed that joint with epoxy.
Scarfing is not all that difficult to do. I had better success with
the scarf than my attempt to buttjoint the sides. The plans seem to
take into consideration using a scarf...I didn't run out of board at
either end :-). All said and done, I would rather work with 5200
than epoxy as 5200 is more forgiving and not all that nasty to work
with compared to epoxy.
The only real screwup I had was I did not bevel the frames. After
the sides were attached, they sorta opened a gap between the sides
and the frames. I filled the gap with epoxy and filleted the joints.
5200 on the chine boards, stem and transom. The plans call for a
butt joint in the ply sides. I scarfed that joint with epoxy.
Scarfing is not all that difficult to do. I had better success with
the scarf than my attempt to buttjoint the sides. The plans seem to
take into consideration using a scarf...I didn't run out of board at
either end :-). All said and done, I would rather work with 5200
than epoxy as 5200 is more forgiving and not all that nasty to work
with compared to epoxy.
The only real screwup I had was I did not bevel the frames. After
the sides were attached, they sorta opened a gap between the sides
and the frames. I filled the gap with epoxy and filleted the joints.
--- In bolger@y..., "Roger S" <roger99a@h...> wrote:
> Hmmm... I still have most of a gallon of red paint, a couple of
> spruce 1X6s....
>
> Can you build this thing with PL Premium and very little epoxy?
>
> Roger S
>
Roger:
You can build this thing with NO epoxy. With what you have, I see $50 worth of plywood, a couple of weekends, and viola - a boat.
Go for it!
Chuck
Hmmm... I still have most of a gallon of red paint, a couple of
spruce 1X6s....
Can you build this thing with PL Premium and very little epoxy?
Roger S
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You can build this thing with NO epoxy. With what you have, I see $50 worth of plywood, a couple of weekends, and viola - a boat.
Go for it!
Chuck
Hmmm... I still have most of a gallon of red paint, a couple of
spruce 1X6s....
Can you build this thing with PL Premium and very little epoxy?
Roger S
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Roger, I hear you brother. If you think history is unpopular, imagine
trying to teach theology to 18-19 yr olds who are not only ignorant
of history, but of philosophy, literature, and other important
things! They know all about self-esteem, but don't have much. But, I
would not have it any other way. Summers of reading, research,
writing, boatbuilding, sailing. No office hours, low pay, but enough
to build cheap boats, buy books for the library, stock the beer
cooler and the pantry. All in all, its a wonderful life!
Dennis
trying to teach theology to 18-19 yr olds who are not only ignorant
of history, but of philosophy, literature, and other important
things! They know all about self-esteem, but don't have much. But, I
would not have it any other way. Summers of reading, research,
writing, boatbuilding, sailing. No office hours, low pay, but enough
to build cheap boats, buy books for the library, stock the beer
cooler and the pantry. All in all, its a wonderful life!
Dennis
--- In bolger@y..., "Roger S" <roger99a@h...> wrote:
> Ahh.. there is an ugly tale involving an ex-wife and missed
> opportunities, not fit to be told here, but many are the days I
> wished I were spouting history at unwilling ears (it's a core
> requirement) and building boats with all that free time in summer.
>
> Roger S
>
> --- In bolger@y..., PseudoDion3@a... wrote:
> > Roger,it is not how high it is piled -- but the depth that counts.
> >
> > Dennis Marshall
> >
> >
> > --- In bolger@y..., "Roger S" <roger99a@h...> wrote:
> > > I should have stayed in college until I had it piled high....
> > >
> > > Anyway, what construction method is used on the $200 sailboat?
> I'm
> > > thinking about putting one together real cheap so I won't be
> > > intimidated about modifying the rig six or eight times while I
> > > experiment with it. I spent too much time and money on my
Gypsy
> to
> > > start cutting new mast holes in her or installing an "A" frame
> for
> > a
> > > crab claw rig.
> > >
> > >
> > > Roger S
> > >
> > > --- In bolger@y..., PseudoDion3@a... wrote:
> > > > Roger -- Yes, the Carnell $200 sailboat goes together that
> > quickly.
> > > > However, my work as a college professor gives me a great deal
> of
> > > free
> > > > time during the summer months -- a luxury that permits me to
> > build
> > > > without many interruptions. So, it may take a wee bit longer
to
> > > build
> > > > for others. Too, I tried to follow the plans to a "T" without
> > much
> > > > interpretation or making her into a "gold plater" by
attending
> to
> > a
> > > > lot of small details that would have certainly contributed to
> her
> > > > beauty. If I built her again, I would take more time and be
> more
> > > > meticulous about looks than I was. But, this was merely
> > > a "practice"
> > > > boat for me to see if it would have been worth my time to try
> > other
> > > > designs or develop skills that would enhance the aesthetic
> > details
> > > of
> > > > the boat.
> > > > The $200 boat would be a good hull for rig
> experimentation.
> > > Dave
> > > > Carnell offers an alternative lug rig for the boat, but I
think
> a
> > > > sprit rig would do nicely on her too.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Dennis Marshall
> > > >
> > > > --- In bolger@y..., "Roger S" <roger99a@h...> wrote:
> > > > > I enjoyed the article immensely, and chuckled with an air
of
> > > > > superiority, knowing that I only built my transom twice
> before
> > it
> > > > fit.
> > > > >
> > > > > What really impressed me was the building time. The
> beautiful
> > > > Donna
> > > > > was widowed for months while I built my Gypsy. Is Dave's
> > $200
> > > > boat
> > > > > that fast to build? I'm thinking about a second boat to
use
> > for
> > > > > experimental rigs.
> > > > >
> > > > > Roger S
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In bolger@y..., PseudoDion3@a... wrote:
> > > > > > Peter,
> > > > > > Thanks so much for your kind words regarding the
> > Duckworks
> > > > > > magazine article. Chuck's hope is that my experiences
will
> > > > > encourage
> > > > > > first time builders to take the plunge and perhaps give a
> > > chuckle
> > > > > to
> > > > > > the more experienced builders whose follies in their
first
> > > > attempt
> > > > > > were somewhat similar to mine.
> > > > > > What was not said in the article is that not only
was
> > this
> > > > my
> > > > > > first boat building experience (of building anything for
> that
> > > > > matter)
> > > > > > but it was also my first time sailing ever! A life long
> dream
> > > of
> > > > > mine
> > > > > > was realized and this is one instance where the reality
far
> > > > > surpassed
> > > > > > the expectations of my dreams.
> > > > > > Also, not five minutes after the "happy sailor"
> picture
> > > was
> > > > > > snapped by my gracious wife the rudder came unshipped
> during
> > a
> > > > tack
> > > > > > and we were blown into someone's dock and entagled in all
> > sorts
> > > > of
> > > > > > things before we could work ourselves loose. Taken in
> stride,
> > > > even
> > > > > > such sailing faux pas could not dampen our enthusiasm.
Even
> > > > before
> > > > > we
> > > > > > launched the boat, my wife, Terry, insisted that I take
> > sailing
> > > > > > lessons before she would get in the boat with me. You can
> see
> > > > from
> > > > > > the pics who the first one in was! In the dozen times
I've
> > had
> > > it
> > > > > > out, I've never dumped the boat -- it is amazingly stable
> and
> > > > > > forgiving. Not to mention the fact that God watches over
> > fools!
> > > I
> > > > > was
> > > > > > dismasted by a 25mph breeze -- a knot in the mast
weakened
> it
> > > in
> > > > a
> > > > > > strategic spot. I've had it on lakes and sailed up and
down
> > the
> > > > > > Grand River to the delight of many who had never seen
> > anything
> > > > but
> > > > > a
> > > > > > power boat or rowing dinghy on it. All in all, a very
> > > satisfying
> > > > > > experience.
> > > > > > If I lament anything, it is that I started too late
in
> > > both
> > > > > the
> > > > > > summer and in life to attempt building and sailing a
boat.
> > > While
> > > > > life
> > > > > > circumstances would have made this difficult anyway,
doubts
> > > about
> > > > > > whether I could do it made it impossible. I would simply
> > > > encourage
> > > > > > others who might be in a similar frame of mind to throw
> > caution
> > > > to
> > > > > > the wind and saw wood. Life is too short to talk yourself
> out
> > > of
> > > > > > creating something beautiful that will bring joy to
others
> as
> > > > well
> > > > > as
> > > > > > yourself.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ok -- I'm off the soap box!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Warm Regards,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dennis Marshall
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In bolger@y..., ellengaest@b... wrote:
> > > > > > > Bolgerados!
> > > > > > > For all who find themselves up to their chins in
> > nautical
> > > > > > > literature,slowly collecting study plans,buying "How to
> > > Build"
> > > > > boat
> > > > > > > books,waisting precious hours dreaming of building a
> > certain
> > > > boat
> > > > > > (or
> > > > > > > any boat!),stock-piling every tool the local hardware
> store
> > > > > stocks
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > yet despite it all just don't think they have what it
> takes
> > > to
> > > > > > > actually build themselves a boat.............Well,for a
> > > > > positively
> > > > > > > up-lifting and encouraging tale,check out Dennis's
recent
> > > > article
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > Duckworks Magazine.He confesses to being a first time
> > > > > > builder,loaded
> > > > > > > down with doubts yet manages to pull off a wonderfull
> > > rendering
> > > > > of
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > "$200.00 sailboat" by Dave Carnell/Phil Bolger.
> > > > > > > To help you on your way toward taking that first
> > nervous
> > > > saw
> > > > > > blade
> > > > > > > to wood,here is the link to his article:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > >http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/articles/inscrutable/index.htm
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > That wasn't so hard now,was it? Just think how much
> fun
> > > YOU
> > > > > > will
> > > > > > > have making saw dust and ending up with a thing of
beauty
> > to
> > > > > > treasure
> > > > > > > and enjoy for many years to come!
> > > > > > > O.K.,that's it for me.Just feeling better and a wee
> bit
> > > > > excited
> > > > > > by
> > > > > > > another successful build.Kinda makes me wish it was
> summer
> > > > > outside
> > > > > > > and not this gastly harbinger to winter called
> autumn......
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Bravo Dennis!
> > > > > > >
> Sincerely,
> > > > > > > Peter Lenihan,fantasizing about what it must be like to
> > live
> > > in
> > > > a
> > > > > > year
> > > > > > > round warm climate,from the cold and getting colder
> shores
> > of
> > > > the
> > > > > > > St.Lawrence................
Ahh.. there is an ugly tale involving an ex-wife and missed
opportunities, not fit to be told here, but many are the days I
wished I were spouting history at unwilling ears (it's a core
requirement) and building boats with all that free time in summer.
Roger S
opportunities, not fit to be told here, but many are the days I
wished I were spouting history at unwilling ears (it's a core
requirement) and building boats with all that free time in summer.
Roger S
--- In bolger@y..., PseudoDion3@a... wrote:
> Roger,it is not how high it is piled -- but the depth that counts.
>
> Dennis Marshall
>
>
> --- In bolger@y..., "Roger S" <roger99a@h...> wrote:
> > I should have stayed in college until I had it piled high....
> >
> > Anyway, what construction method is used on the $200 sailboat?
I'm
> > thinking about putting one together real cheap so I won't be
> > intimidated about modifying the rig six or eight times while I
> > experiment with it. I spent too much time and money on my Gypsy
to
> > start cutting new mast holes in her or installing an "A" frame
for
> a
> > crab claw rig.
> >
> >
> > Roger S
> >
> > --- In bolger@y..., PseudoDion3@a... wrote:
> > > Roger -- Yes, the Carnell $200 sailboat goes together that
> quickly.
> > > However, my work as a college professor gives me a great deal
of
> > free
> > > time during the summer months -- a luxury that permits me to
> build
> > > without many interruptions. So, it may take a wee bit longer to
> > build
> > > for others. Too, I tried to follow the plans to a "T" without
> much
> > > interpretation or making her into a "gold plater" by attending
to
> a
> > > lot of small details that would have certainly contributed to
her
> > > beauty. If I built her again, I would take more time and be
more
> > > meticulous about looks than I was. But, this was merely
> > a "practice"
> > > boat for me to see if it would have been worth my time to try
> other
> > > designs or develop skills that would enhance the aesthetic
> details
> > of
> > > the boat.
> > > The $200 boat would be a good hull for rig
experimentation.
> > Dave
> > > Carnell offers an alternative lug rig for the boat, but I think
a
> > > sprit rig would do nicely on her too.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Dennis Marshall
> > >
> > > --- In bolger@y..., "Roger S" <roger99a@h...> wrote:
> > > > I enjoyed the article immensely, and chuckled with an air of
> > > > superiority, knowing that I only built my transom twice
before
> it
> > > fit.
> > > >
> > > > What really impressed me was the building time. The
beautiful
> > > Donna
> > > > was widowed for months while I built my Gypsy. Is Dave's
> $200
> > > boat
> > > > that fast to build? I'm thinking about a second boat to use
> for
> > > > experimental rigs.
> > > >
> > > > Roger S
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In bolger@y..., PseudoDion3@a... wrote:
> > > > > Peter,
> > > > > Thanks so much for your kind words regarding the
> Duckworks
> > > > > magazine article. Chuck's hope is that my experiences will
> > > > encourage
> > > > > first time builders to take the plunge and perhaps give a
> > chuckle
> > > > to
> > > > > the more experienced builders whose follies in their first
> > > attempt
> > > > > were somewhat similar to mine.
> > > > > What was not said in the article is that not only was
> this
> > > my
> > > > > first boat building experience (of building anything for
that
> > > > matter)
> > > > > but it was also my first time sailing ever! A life long
dream
> > of
> > > > mine
> > > > > was realized and this is one instance where the reality far
> > > > surpassed
> > > > > the expectations of my dreams.
> > > > > Also, not five minutes after the "happy sailor"
picture
> > was
> > > > > snapped by my gracious wife the rudder came unshipped
during
> a
> > > tack
> > > > > and we were blown into someone's dock and entagled in all
> sorts
> > > of
> > > > > things before we could work ourselves loose. Taken in
stride,
> > > even
> > > > > such sailing faux pas could not dampen our enthusiasm. Even
> > > before
> > > > we
> > > > > launched the boat, my wife, Terry, insisted that I take
> sailing
> > > > > lessons before she would get in the boat with me. You can
see
> > > from
> > > > > the pics who the first one in was! In the dozen times I've
> had
> > it
> > > > > out, I've never dumped the boat -- it is amazingly stable
and
> > > > > forgiving. Not to mention the fact that God watches over
> fools!
> > I
> > > > was
> > > > > dismasted by a 25mph breeze -- a knot in the mast weakened
it
> > in
> > > a
> > > > > strategic spot. I've had it on lakes and sailed up and down
> the
> > > > > Grand River to the delight of many who had never seen
> anything
> > > but
> > > > a
> > > > > power boat or rowing dinghy on it. All in all, a very
> > satisfying
> > > > > experience.
> > > > > If I lament anything, it is that I started too late in
> > both
> > > > the
> > > > > summer and in life to attempt building and sailing a boat.
> > While
> > > > life
> > > > > circumstances would have made this difficult anyway, doubts
> > about
> > > > > whether I could do it made it impossible. I would simply
> > > encourage
> > > > > others who might be in a similar frame of mind to throw
> caution
> > > to
> > > > > the wind and saw wood. Life is too short to talk yourself
out
> > of
> > > > > creating something beautiful that will bring joy to others
as
> > > well
> > > > as
> > > > > yourself.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ok -- I'm off the soap box!
> > > > >
> > > > > Warm Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Dennis Marshall
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In bolger@y..., ellengaest@b... wrote:
> > > > > > Bolgerados!
> > > > > > For all who find themselves up to their chins in
> nautical
> > > > > > literature,slowly collecting study plans,buying "How to
> > Build"
> > > > boat
> > > > > > books,waisting precious hours dreaming of building a
> certain
> > > boat
> > > > > (or
> > > > > > any boat!),stock-piling every tool the local hardware
store
> > > > stocks
> > > > > and
> > > > > > yet despite it all just don't think they have what it
takes
> > to
> > > > > > actually build themselves a boat.............Well,for a
> > > > positively
> > > > > > up-lifting and encouraging tale,check out Dennis's recent
> > > article
> > > > > in
> > > > > > Duckworks Magazine.He confesses to being a first time
> > > > > builder,loaded
> > > > > > down with doubts yet manages to pull off a wonderfull
> > rendering
> > > > of
> > > > > the
> > > > > > "$200.00 sailboat" by Dave Carnell/Phil Bolger.
> > > > > > To help you on your way toward taking that first
> nervous
> > > saw
> > > > > blade
> > > > > > to wood,here is the link to his article:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> >http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/articles/inscrutable/index.htm
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That wasn't so hard now,was it? Just think how much
fun
> > YOU
> > > > > will
> > > > > > have making saw dust and ending up with a thing of beauty
> to
> > > > > treasure
> > > > > > and enjoy for many years to come!
> > > > > > O.K.,that's it for me.Just feeling better and a wee
bit
> > > > excited
> > > > > by
> > > > > > another successful build.Kinda makes me wish it was
summer
> > > > outside
> > > > > > and not this gastly harbinger to winter called
autumn......
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bravo Dennis!
> > > > > >
Sincerely,
> > > > > > Peter Lenihan,fantasizing about what it must be like to
> live
> > in
> > > a
> > > > > year
> > > > > > round warm climate,from the cold and getting colder
shores
> of
> > > the
> > > > > > St.Lawrence................
Hi,
You should be able to have the hull ready to paint in no more that two
weekends of work. The plans are inexpensive and very good. Dave is great
to answer
questions and always happy to hear from you.
Look at this site for an explanation of construction.
http://home.att.net/~DaveCarnell/sailboat.html
James
You should be able to have the hull ready to paint in no more that two
weekends of work. The plans are inexpensive and very good. Dave is great
to answer
questions and always happy to hear from you.
Look at this site for an explanation of construction.
http://home.att.net/~DaveCarnell/sailboat.html
James
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger S" <roger99a@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 2:47 PM
Subject: [bolger] Carnell's $200 Sailboat (was How to avoid armchairitis.)
> I should have stayed in college until I had it piled high....
>
> Anyway, what construction method is used on the $200 sailboat? I'm
> thinking about putting one together real cheap so I won't be
> intimidated about modifying the rig six or eight times while I
> experiment with it. I spent too much time and money on my Gypsy to
> start cutting new mast holes in her or installing an "A" frame for a
> crab claw rig.
>
>
> Roger S
>
> --- In bolger@y..., PseudoDion3@a... wrote:
> > Roger -- Yes, the Carnell $200 sailboat goes together that quickly.
> > However, my work as a college professor gives me a great deal of
> free
> > time during the summer months -- a luxury that permits me to build
> > without many interruptions. So, it may take a wee bit longer to
> build
> > for others. Too, I tried to follow the plans to a "T" without much
> > interpretation or making her into a "gold plater" by attending to a
> > lot of small details that would have certainly contributed to her
> > beauty. If I built her again, I would take more time and be more
> > meticulous about looks than I was. But, this was merely
> a "practice"
> > boat for me to see if it would have been worth my time to try other
> > designs or develop skills that would enhance the aesthetic details
> of
> > the boat.
> > The $200 boat would be a good hull for rig experimentation.
> Dave
> > Carnell offers an alternative lug rig for the boat, but I think a
> > sprit rig would do nicely on her too.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Dennis Marshall
> >
> > --- In bolger@y..., "Roger S" <roger99a@h...> wrote:
> > > I enjoyed the article immensely, and chuckled with an air of
> > > superiority, knowing that I only built my transom twice before it
> > fit.
> > >
> > > What really impressed me was the building time. The beautiful
> > Donna
> > > was widowed for months while I built my Gypsy. Is Dave's $200
> > boat
> > > that fast to build? I'm thinking about a second boat to use for
> > > experimental rigs.
> > >
> > > Roger S
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In bolger@y..., PseudoDion3@a... wrote:
> > > > Peter,
> > > > Thanks so much for your kind words regarding the Duckworks
> > > > magazine article. Chuck's hope is that my experiences will
> > > encourage
> > > > first time builders to take the plunge and perhaps give a
> chuckle
> > > to
> > > > the more experienced builders whose follies in their first
> > attempt
> > > > were somewhat similar to mine.
> > > > What was not said in the article is that not only was this
> > my
> > > > first boat building experience (of building anything for that
> > > matter)
> > > > but it was also my first time sailing ever! A life long dream
> of
> > > mine
> > > > was realized and this is one instance where the reality far
> > > surpassed
> > > > the expectations of my dreams.
> > > > Also, not five minutes after the "happy sailor" picture
> was
> > > > snapped by my gracious wife the rudder came unshipped during a
> > tack
> > > > and we were blown into someone's dock and entagled in all sorts
> > of
> > > > things before we could work ourselves loose. Taken in stride,
> > even
> > > > such sailing faux pas could not dampen our enthusiasm. Even
> > before
> > > we
> > > > launched the boat, my wife, Terry, insisted that I take sailing
> > > > lessons before she would get in the boat with me. You can see
> > from
> > > > the pics who the first one in was! In the dozen times I've had
> it
> > > > out, I've never dumped the boat -- it is amazingly stable and
> > > > forgiving. Not to mention the fact that God watches over fools!
> I
> > > was
> > > > dismasted by a 25mph breeze -- a knot in the mast weakened it
> in
> > a
> > > > strategic spot. I've had it on lakes and sailed up and down the
> > > > Grand River to the delight of many who had never seen anything
> > but
> > > a
> > > > power boat or rowing dinghy on it. All in all, a very
> satisfying
> > > > experience.
> > > > If I lament anything, it is that I started too late in
> both
> > > the
> > > > summer and in life to attempt building and sailing a boat.
> While
> > > life
> > > > circumstances would have made this difficult anyway, doubts
> about
> > > > whether I could do it made it impossible. I would simply
> > encourage
> > > > others who might be in a similar frame of mind to throw caution
> > to
> > > > the wind and saw wood. Life is too short to talk yourself out
> of
> > > > creating something beautiful that will bring joy to others as
> > well
> > > as
> > > > yourself.
> > > >
> > > > Ok -- I'm off the soap box!
> > > >
> > > > Warm Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Dennis Marshall
> > > >
> > > > --- In bolger@y..., ellengaest@b... wrote:
> > > > > Bolgerados!
> > > > > For all who find themselves up to their chins in nautical
> > > > > literature,slowly collecting study plans,buying "How to
> Build"
> > > boat
> > > > > books,waisting precious hours dreaming of building a certain
> > boat
> > > > (or
> > > > > any boat!),stock-piling every tool the local hardware store
> > > stocks
> > > > and
> > > > > yet despite it all just don't think they have what it takes
> to
> > > > > actually build themselves a boat.............Well,for a
> > > positively
> > > > > up-lifting and encouraging tale,check out Dennis's recent
> > article
> > > > in
> > > > > Duckworks Magazine.He confesses to being a first time
> > > > builder,loaded
> > > > > down with doubts yet manages to pull off a wonderfull
> rendering
> > > of
> > > > the
> > > > > "$200.00 sailboat" by Dave Carnell/Phil Bolger.
> > > > > To help you on your way toward taking that first nervous
> > saw
> > > > blade
> > > > > to wood,here is the link to his article:
> > > > >
> > > > >
>http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/articles/inscrutable/index.htm
> > > > >
> > > > > That wasn't so hard now,was it? Just think how much fun
> YOU
> > > > will
> > > > > have making saw dust and ending up with a thing of beauty to
> > > > treasure
> > > > > and enjoy for many years to come!
> > > > > O.K.,that's it for me.Just feeling better and a wee bit
> > > excited
> > > > by
> > > > > another successful build.Kinda makes me wish it was summer
> > > outside
> > > > > and not this gastly harbinger to winter called autumn......
> > > > >
> > > > > Bravo Dennis!
> > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > Peter Lenihan,fantasizing about what it must be like to live
> in
> > a
> > > > year
> > > > > round warm climate,from the cold and getting colder shores of
> > the
> > > > > St.Lawrence................
>
>
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>
Roger,it is not how high it is piled -- but the depth that counts.
Dennis Marshall
Dennis Marshall
--- In bolger@y..., "Roger S" <roger99a@h...> wrote:
> I should have stayed in college until I had it piled high....
>
> Anyway, what construction method is used on the $200 sailboat? I'm
> thinking about putting one together real cheap so I won't be
> intimidated about modifying the rig six or eight times while I
> experiment with it. I spent too much time and money on my Gypsy to
> start cutting new mast holes in her or installing an "A" frame for
a
> crab claw rig.
>
>
> Roger S
>
> --- In bolger@y..., PseudoDion3@a... wrote:
> > Roger -- Yes, the Carnell $200 sailboat goes together that
quickly.
> > However, my work as a college professor gives me a great deal of
> free
> > time during the summer months -- a luxury that permits me to
build
> > without many interruptions. So, it may take a wee bit longer to
> build
> > for others. Too, I tried to follow the plans to a "T" without
much
> > interpretation or making her into a "gold plater" by attending to
a
> > lot of small details that would have certainly contributed to her
> > beauty. If I built her again, I would take more time and be more
> > meticulous about looks than I was. But, this was merely
> a "practice"
> > boat for me to see if it would have been worth my time to try
other
> > designs or develop skills that would enhance the aesthetic
details
> of
> > the boat.
> > The $200 boat would be a good hull for rig experimentation.
> Dave
> > Carnell offers an alternative lug rig for the boat, but I think a
> > sprit rig would do nicely on her too.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Dennis Marshall
> >
> > --- In bolger@y..., "Roger S" <roger99a@h...> wrote:
> > > I enjoyed the article immensely, and chuckled with an air of
> > > superiority, knowing that I only built my transom twice before
it
> > fit.
> > >
> > > What really impressed me was the building time. The beautiful
> > Donna
> > > was widowed for months while I built my Gypsy. Is Dave's
$200
> > boat
> > > that fast to build? I'm thinking about a second boat to use
for
> > > experimental rigs.
> > >
> > > Roger S
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In bolger@y..., PseudoDion3@a... wrote:
> > > > Peter,
> > > > Thanks so much for your kind words regarding the
Duckworks
> > > > magazine article. Chuck's hope is that my experiences will
> > > encourage
> > > > first time builders to take the plunge and perhaps give a
> chuckle
> > > to
> > > > the more experienced builders whose follies in their first
> > attempt
> > > > were somewhat similar to mine.
> > > > What was not said in the article is that not only was
this
> > my
> > > > first boat building experience (of building anything for that
> > > matter)
> > > > but it was also my first time sailing ever! A life long dream
> of
> > > mine
> > > > was realized and this is one instance where the reality far
> > > surpassed
> > > > the expectations of my dreams.
> > > > Also, not five minutes after the "happy sailor" picture
> was
> > > > snapped by my gracious wife the rudder came unshipped during
a
> > tack
> > > > and we were blown into someone's dock and entagled in all
sorts
> > of
> > > > things before we could work ourselves loose. Taken in stride,
> > even
> > > > such sailing faux pas could not dampen our enthusiasm. Even
> > before
> > > we
> > > > launched the boat, my wife, Terry, insisted that I take
sailing
> > > > lessons before she would get in the boat with me. You can see
> > from
> > > > the pics who the first one in was! In the dozen times I've
had
> it
> > > > out, I've never dumped the boat -- it is amazingly stable and
> > > > forgiving. Not to mention the fact that God watches over
fools!
> I
> > > was
> > > > dismasted by a 25mph breeze -- a knot in the mast weakened it
> in
> > a
> > > > strategic spot. I've had it on lakes and sailed up and down
the
> > > > Grand River to the delight of many who had never seen
anything
> > but
> > > a
> > > > power boat or rowing dinghy on it. All in all, a very
> satisfying
> > > > experience.
> > > > If I lament anything, it is that I started too late in
> both
> > > the
> > > > summer and in life to attempt building and sailing a boat.
> While
> > > life
> > > > circumstances would have made this difficult anyway, doubts
> about
> > > > whether I could do it made it impossible. I would simply
> > encourage
> > > > others who might be in a similar frame of mind to throw
caution
> > to
> > > > the wind and saw wood. Life is too short to talk yourself out
> of
> > > > creating something beautiful that will bring joy to others as
> > well
> > > as
> > > > yourself.
> > > >
> > > > Ok -- I'm off the soap box!
> > > >
> > > > Warm Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Dennis Marshall
> > > >
> > > > --- In bolger@y..., ellengaest@b... wrote:
> > > > > Bolgerados!
> > > > > For all who find themselves up to their chins in
nautical
> > > > > literature,slowly collecting study plans,buying "How to
> Build"
> > > boat
> > > > > books,waisting precious hours dreaming of building a
certain
> > boat
> > > > (or
> > > > > any boat!),stock-piling every tool the local hardware store
> > > stocks
> > > > and
> > > > > yet despite it all just don't think they have what it takes
> to
> > > > > actually build themselves a boat.............Well,for a
> > > positively
> > > > > up-lifting and encouraging tale,check out Dennis's recent
> > article
> > > > in
> > > > > Duckworks Magazine.He confesses to being a first time
> > > > builder,loaded
> > > > > down with doubts yet manages to pull off a wonderfull
> rendering
> > > of
> > > > the
> > > > > "$200.00 sailboat" by Dave Carnell/Phil Bolger.
> > > > > To help you on your way toward taking that first
nervous
> > saw
> > > > blade
> > > > > to wood,here is the link to his article:
> > > > >
> > > > >
>http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/articles/inscrutable/index.htm
> > > > >
> > > > > That wasn't so hard now,was it? Just think how much fun
> YOU
> > > > will
> > > > > have making saw dust and ending up with a thing of beauty
to
> > > > treasure
> > > > > and enjoy for many years to come!
> > > > > O.K.,that's it for me.Just feeling better and a wee bit
> > > excited
> > > > by
> > > > > another successful build.Kinda makes me wish it was summer
> > > outside
> > > > > and not this gastly harbinger to winter called autumn......
> > > > >
> > > > > Bravo Dennis!
> > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > Peter Lenihan,fantasizing about what it must be like to
live
> in
> > a
> > > > year
> > > > > round warm climate,from the cold and getting colder shores
of
> > the
> > > > > St.Lawrence................
Hmmm... I still have most of a gallon of red paint, a couple of
spruce 1X6s....
Can you build this thing with PL Premium and very little epoxy?
Roger S
spruce 1X6s....
Can you build this thing with PL Premium and very little epoxy?
Roger S
--- In bolger@y..., micwal_va@h... wrote:
> The construction is glue and screw. It uses 4 sheets of 1/4" ply
and
> about 15 board feet of SYP for chine log and gunwales.
>
> All told I have about $250 in mine with paint. Still need to
> contruct the rudder, mast and sail.
The construction is glue and screw. It uses 4 sheets of 1/4" ply and
about 15 board feet of SYP for chine log and gunwales.
All told I have about $250 in mine with paint. Still need to
contruct the rudder, mast and sail.
about 15 board feet of SYP for chine log and gunwales.
All told I have about $250 in mine with paint. Still need to
contruct the rudder, mast and sail.
I should have stayed in college until I had it piled high....
Anyway, what construction method is used on the $200 sailboat? I'm
thinking about putting one together real cheap so I won't be
intimidated about modifying the rig six or eight times while I
experiment with it. I spent too much time and money on my Gypsy to
start cutting new mast holes in her or installing an "A" frame for a
crab claw rig.
Roger S
Anyway, what construction method is used on the $200 sailboat? I'm
thinking about putting one together real cheap so I won't be
intimidated about modifying the rig six or eight times while I
experiment with it. I spent too much time and money on my Gypsy to
start cutting new mast holes in her or installing an "A" frame for a
crab claw rig.
Roger S
--- In bolger@y..., PseudoDion3@a... wrote:
> Roger -- Yes, the Carnell $200 sailboat goes together that quickly.
> However, my work as a college professor gives me a great deal of
free
> time during the summer months -- a luxury that permits me to build
> without many interruptions. So, it may take a wee bit longer to
build
> for others. Too, I tried to follow the plans to a "T" without much
> interpretation or making her into a "gold plater" by attending to a
> lot of small details that would have certainly contributed to her
> beauty. If I built her again, I would take more time and be more
> meticulous about looks than I was. But, this was merely
a "practice"
> boat for me to see if it would have been worth my time to try other
> designs or develop skills that would enhance the aesthetic details
of
> the boat.
> The $200 boat would be a good hull for rig experimentation.
Dave
> Carnell offers an alternative lug rig for the boat, but I think a
> sprit rig would do nicely on her too.
>
> Regards,
>
> Dennis Marshall
>
> --- In bolger@y..., "Roger S" <roger99a@h...> wrote:
> > I enjoyed the article immensely, and chuckled with an air of
> > superiority, knowing that I only built my transom twice before it
> fit.
> >
> > What really impressed me was the building time. The beautiful
> Donna
> > was widowed for months while I built my Gypsy. Is Dave's $200
> boat
> > that fast to build? I'm thinking about a second boat to use for
> > experimental rigs.
> >
> > Roger S
> >
> >
> > --- In bolger@y..., PseudoDion3@a... wrote:
> > > Peter,
> > > Thanks so much for your kind words regarding the Duckworks
> > > magazine article. Chuck's hope is that my experiences will
> > encourage
> > > first time builders to take the plunge and perhaps give a
chuckle
> > to
> > > the more experienced builders whose follies in their first
> attempt
> > > were somewhat similar to mine.
> > > What was not said in the article is that not only was this
> my
> > > first boat building experience (of building anything for that
> > matter)
> > > but it was also my first time sailing ever! A life long dream
of
> > mine
> > > was realized and this is one instance where the reality far
> > surpassed
> > > the expectations of my dreams.
> > > Also, not five minutes after the "happy sailor" picture
was
> > > snapped by my gracious wife the rudder came unshipped during a
> tack
> > > and we were blown into someone's dock and entagled in all sorts
> of
> > > things before we could work ourselves loose. Taken in stride,
> even
> > > such sailing faux pas could not dampen our enthusiasm. Even
> before
> > we
> > > launched the boat, my wife, Terry, insisted that I take sailing
> > > lessons before she would get in the boat with me. You can see
> from
> > > the pics who the first one in was! In the dozen times I've had
it
> > > out, I've never dumped the boat -- it is amazingly stable and
> > > forgiving. Not to mention the fact that God watches over fools!
I
> > was
> > > dismasted by a 25mph breeze -- a knot in the mast weakened it
in
> a
> > > strategic spot. I've had it on lakes and sailed up and down the
> > > Grand River to the delight of many who had never seen anything
> but
> > a
> > > power boat or rowing dinghy on it. All in all, a very
satisfying
> > > experience.
> > > If I lament anything, it is that I started too late in
both
> > the
> > > summer and in life to attempt building and sailing a boat.
While
> > life
> > > circumstances would have made this difficult anyway, doubts
about
> > > whether I could do it made it impossible. I would simply
> encourage
> > > others who might be in a similar frame of mind to throw caution
> to
> > > the wind and saw wood. Life is too short to talk yourself out
of
> > > creating something beautiful that will bring joy to others as
> well
> > as
> > > yourself.
> > >
> > > Ok -- I'm off the soap box!
> > >
> > > Warm Regards,
> > >
> > > Dennis Marshall
> > >
> > > --- In bolger@y..., ellengaest@b... wrote:
> > > > Bolgerados!
> > > > For all who find themselves up to their chins in nautical
> > > > literature,slowly collecting study plans,buying "How to
Build"
> > boat
> > > > books,waisting precious hours dreaming of building a certain
> boat
> > > (or
> > > > any boat!),stock-piling every tool the local hardware store
> > stocks
> > > and
> > > > yet despite it all just don't think they have what it takes
to
> > > > actually build themselves a boat.............Well,for a
> > positively
> > > > up-lifting and encouraging tale,check out Dennis's recent
> article
> > > in
> > > > Duckworks Magazine.He confesses to being a first time
> > > builder,loaded
> > > > down with doubts yet manages to pull off a wonderfull
rendering
> > of
> > > the
> > > > "$200.00 sailboat" by Dave Carnell/Phil Bolger.
> > > > To help you on your way toward taking that first nervous
> saw
> > > blade
> > > > to wood,here is the link to his article:
> > > >
> > > >
http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/articles/inscrutable/index.htm
> > > >
> > > > That wasn't so hard now,was it? Just think how much fun
YOU
> > > will
> > > > have making saw dust and ending up with a thing of beauty to
> > > treasure
> > > > and enjoy for many years to come!
> > > > O.K.,that's it for me.Just feeling better and a wee bit
> > excited
> > > by
> > > > another successful build.Kinda makes me wish it was summer
> > outside
> > > > and not this gastly harbinger to winter called autumn......
> > > >
> > > > Bravo Dennis!
> > > > Sincerely,
> > > > Peter Lenihan,fantasizing about what it must be like to live
in
> a
> > > year
> > > > round warm climate,from the cold and getting colder shores of
> the
> > > > St.Lawrence................
Dennis is right--the $200 boat is a snap to build, and
Dave Carnell is one heck of a nice guy. I built mine
in three weeks after work and weekends, but I used a
sunfish rig so I didn't have to fool with spars or
mast. The old "featherwind" design is decent to row
and very nice to sail, and Dave did a great job
simplifying the plans.
Sam
--- Roger S <roger99a@...> wrote:
Do You Yahoo!?
Find a job, post your resume.
http://careers.yahoo.com
Dave Carnell is one heck of a nice guy. I built mine
in three weeks after work and weekends, but I used a
sunfish rig so I didn't have to fool with spars or
mast. The old "featherwind" design is decent to row
and very nice to sail, and Dave did a great job
simplifying the plans.
Sam
--- Roger S <roger99a@...> wrote:
> I enjoyed the article immensely, and chuckled with__________________________________________________
> an air of
> superiority, knowing that I only built my transom
> twice before it fit.
>
> What really impressed me was the building time. The
> beautiful Donna
> was widowed for months while I built my Gypsy. Is
> Dave's $200 boat
> that fast to build? I'm thinking about a second
> boat to use for
> experimental rigs.
>
> Roger S
>
> > > >
>
>
Do You Yahoo!?
Find a job, post your resume.
http://careers.yahoo.com
Roger -- Yes, the Carnell $200 sailboat goes together that quickly.
However, my work as a college professor gives me a great deal of free
time during the summer months -- a luxury that permits me to build
without many interruptions. So, it may take a wee bit longer to build
for others. Too, I tried to follow the plans to a "T" without much
interpretation or making her into a "gold plater" by attending to a
lot of small details that would have certainly contributed to her
beauty. If I built her again, I would take more time and be more
meticulous about looks than I was. But, this was merely a "practice"
boat for me to see if it would have been worth my time to try other
designs or develop skills that would enhance the aesthetic details of
the boat.
The $200 boat would be a good hull for rig experimentation. Dave
Carnell offers an alternative lug rig for the boat, but I think a
sprit rig would do nicely on her too.
Regards,
Dennis Marshall
However, my work as a college professor gives me a great deal of free
time during the summer months -- a luxury that permits me to build
without many interruptions. So, it may take a wee bit longer to build
for others. Too, I tried to follow the plans to a "T" without much
interpretation or making her into a "gold plater" by attending to a
lot of small details that would have certainly contributed to her
beauty. If I built her again, I would take more time and be more
meticulous about looks than I was. But, this was merely a "practice"
boat for me to see if it would have been worth my time to try other
designs or develop skills that would enhance the aesthetic details of
the boat.
The $200 boat would be a good hull for rig experimentation. Dave
Carnell offers an alternative lug rig for the boat, but I think a
sprit rig would do nicely on her too.
Regards,
Dennis Marshall
--- In bolger@y..., "Roger S" <roger99a@h...> wrote:
> I enjoyed the article immensely, and chuckled with an air of
> superiority, knowing that I only built my transom twice before it
fit.
>
> What really impressed me was the building time. The beautiful
Donna
> was widowed for months while I built my Gypsy. Is Dave's $200
boat
> that fast to build? I'm thinking about a second boat to use for
> experimental rigs.
>
> Roger S
>
>
> --- In bolger@y..., PseudoDion3@a... wrote:
> > Peter,
> > Thanks so much for your kind words regarding the Duckworks
> > magazine article. Chuck's hope is that my experiences will
> encourage
> > first time builders to take the plunge and perhaps give a chuckle
> to
> > the more experienced builders whose follies in their first
attempt
> > were somewhat similar to mine.
> > What was not said in the article is that not only was this
my
> > first boat building experience (of building anything for that
> matter)
> > but it was also my first time sailing ever! A life long dream of
> mine
> > was realized and this is one instance where the reality far
> surpassed
> > the expectations of my dreams.
> > Also, not five minutes after the "happy sailor" picture was
> > snapped by my gracious wife the rudder came unshipped during a
tack
> > and we were blown into someone's dock and entagled in all sorts
of
> > things before we could work ourselves loose. Taken in stride,
even
> > such sailing faux pas could not dampen our enthusiasm. Even
before
> we
> > launched the boat, my wife, Terry, insisted that I take sailing
> > lessons before she would get in the boat with me. You can see
from
> > the pics who the first one in was! In the dozen times I've had it
> > out, I've never dumped the boat -- it is amazingly stable and
> > forgiving. Not to mention the fact that God watches over fools! I
> was
> > dismasted by a 25mph breeze -- a knot in the mast weakened it in
a
> > strategic spot. I've had it on lakes and sailed up and down the
> > Grand River to the delight of many who had never seen anything
but
> a
> > power boat or rowing dinghy on it. All in all, a very satisfying
> > experience.
> > If I lament anything, it is that I started too late in both
> the
> > summer and in life to attempt building and sailing a boat. While
> life
> > circumstances would have made this difficult anyway, doubts about
> > whether I could do it made it impossible. I would simply
encourage
> > others who might be in a similar frame of mind to throw caution
to
> > the wind and saw wood. Life is too short to talk yourself out of
> > creating something beautiful that will bring joy to others as
well
> as
> > yourself.
> >
> > Ok -- I'm off the soap box!
> >
> > Warm Regards,
> >
> > Dennis Marshall
> >
> > --- In bolger@y..., ellengaest@b... wrote:
> > > Bolgerados!
> > > For all who find themselves up to their chins in nautical
> > > literature,slowly collecting study plans,buying "How to Build"
> boat
> > > books,waisting precious hours dreaming of building a certain
boat
> > (or
> > > any boat!),stock-piling every tool the local hardware store
> stocks
> > and
> > > yet despite it all just don't think they have what it takes to
> > > actually build themselves a boat.............Well,for a
> positively
> > > up-lifting and encouraging tale,check out Dennis's recent
article
> > in
> > > Duckworks Magazine.He confesses to being a first time
> > builder,loaded
> > > down with doubts yet manages to pull off a wonderfull rendering
> of
> > the
> > > "$200.00 sailboat" by Dave Carnell/Phil Bolger.
> > > To help you on your way toward taking that first nervous
saw
> > blade
> > > to wood,here is the link to his article:
> > >
> > >http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/articles/inscrutable/index.htm
> > >
> > > That wasn't so hard now,was it? Just think how much fun YOU
> > will
> > > have making saw dust and ending up with a thing of beauty to
> > treasure
> > > and enjoy for many years to come!
> > > O.K.,that's it for me.Just feeling better and a wee bit
> excited
> > by
> > > another successful build.Kinda makes me wish it was summer
> outside
> > > and not this gastly harbinger to winter called autumn......
> > >
> > > Bravo Dennis!
> > > Sincerely,
> > > Peter Lenihan,fantasizing about what it must be like to live in
a
> > year
> > > round warm climate,from the cold and getting colder shores of
the
> > > St.Lawrence................
I enjoyed the article immensely, and chuckled with an air of
superiority, knowing that I only built my transom twice before it fit.
What really impressed me was the building time. The beautiful Donna
was widowed for months while I built my Gypsy. Is Dave's $200 boat
that fast to build? I'm thinking about a second boat to use for
experimental rigs.
Roger S
superiority, knowing that I only built my transom twice before it fit.
What really impressed me was the building time. The beautiful Donna
was widowed for months while I built my Gypsy. Is Dave's $200 boat
that fast to build? I'm thinking about a second boat to use for
experimental rigs.
Roger S
--- In bolger@y..., PseudoDion3@a... wrote:
> Peter,
> Thanks so much for your kind words regarding the Duckworks
> magazine article. Chuck's hope is that my experiences will
encourage
> first time builders to take the plunge and perhaps give a chuckle
to
> the more experienced builders whose follies in their first attempt
> were somewhat similar to mine.
> What was not said in the article is that not only was this my
> first boat building experience (of building anything for that
matter)
> but it was also my first time sailing ever! A life long dream of
mine
> was realized and this is one instance where the reality far
surpassed
> the expectations of my dreams.
> Also, not five minutes after the "happy sailor" picture was
> snapped by my gracious wife the rudder came unshipped during a tack
> and we were blown into someone's dock and entagled in all sorts of
> things before we could work ourselves loose. Taken in stride, even
> such sailing faux pas could not dampen our enthusiasm. Even before
we
> launched the boat, my wife, Terry, insisted that I take sailing
> lessons before she would get in the boat with me. You can see from
> the pics who the first one in was! In the dozen times I've had it
> out, I've never dumped the boat -- it is amazingly stable and
> forgiving. Not to mention the fact that God watches over fools! I
was
> dismasted by a 25mph breeze -- a knot in the mast weakened it in a
> strategic spot. I've had it on lakes and sailed up and down the
> Grand River to the delight of many who had never seen anything but
a
> power boat or rowing dinghy on it. All in all, a very satisfying
> experience.
> If I lament anything, it is that I started too late in both
the
> summer and in life to attempt building and sailing a boat. While
life
> circumstances would have made this difficult anyway, doubts about
> whether I could do it made it impossible. I would simply encourage
> others who might be in a similar frame of mind to throw caution to
> the wind and saw wood. Life is too short to talk yourself out of
> creating something beautiful that will bring joy to others as well
as
> yourself.
>
> Ok -- I'm off the soap box!
>
> Warm Regards,
>
> Dennis Marshall
>
> --- In bolger@y..., ellengaest@b... wrote:
> > Bolgerados!
> > For all who find themselves up to their chins in nautical
> > literature,slowly collecting study plans,buying "How to Build"
boat
> > books,waisting precious hours dreaming of building a certain boat
> (or
> > any boat!),stock-piling every tool the local hardware store
stocks
> and
> > yet despite it all just don't think they have what it takes to
> > actually build themselves a boat.............Well,for a
positively
> > up-lifting and encouraging tale,check out Dennis's recent article
> in
> > Duckworks Magazine.He confesses to being a first time
> builder,loaded
> > down with doubts yet manages to pull off a wonderfull rendering
of
> the
> > "$200.00 sailboat" by Dave Carnell/Phil Bolger.
> > To help you on your way toward taking that first nervous saw
> blade
> > to wood,here is the link to his article:
> >
> >http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/articles/inscrutable/index.htm
> >
> > That wasn't so hard now,was it? Just think how much fun YOU
> will
> > have making saw dust and ending up with a thing of beauty to
> treasure
> > and enjoy for many years to come!
> > O.K.,that's it for me.Just feeling better and a wee bit
excited
> by
> > another successful build.Kinda makes me wish it was summer
outside
> > and not this gastly harbinger to winter called autumn......
> >
> > Bravo Dennis!
> > Sincerely,
> > Peter Lenihan,fantasizing about what it must be like to live in a
> year
> > round warm climate,from the cold and getting colder shores of the
> > St.Lawrence................
Peter,
Thanks so much for your kind words regarding the Duckworks
magazine article. Chuck's hope is that my experiences will encourage
first time builders to take the plunge and perhaps give a chuckle to
the more experienced builders whose follies in their first attempt
were somewhat similar to mine.
What was not said in the article is that not only was this my
first boat building experience (of building anything for that matter)
but it was also my first time sailing ever! A life long dream of mine
was realized and this is one instance where the reality far surpassed
the expectations of my dreams.
Also, not five minutes after the "happy sailor" picture was
snapped by my gracious wife the rudder came unshipped during a tack
and we were blown into someone's dock and entagled in all sorts of
things before we could work ourselves loose. Taken in stride, even
such sailing faux pas could not dampen our enthusiasm. Even before we
launched the boat, my wife, Terry, insisted that I take sailing
lessons before she would get in the boat with me. You can see from
the pics who the first one in was! In the dozen times I've had it
out, I've never dumped the boat -- it is amazingly stable and
forgiving. Not to mention the fact that God watches over fools! I was
dismasted by a 25mph breeze -- a knot in the mast weakened it in a
strategic spot. I've had it on lakes and sailed up and down the
Grand River to the delight of many who had never seen anything but a
power boat or rowing dinghy on it. All in all, a very satisfying
experience.
If I lament anything, it is that I started too late in both the
summer and in life to attempt building and sailing a boat. While life
circumstances would have made this difficult anyway, doubts about
whether I could do it made it impossible. I would simply encourage
others who might be in a similar frame of mind to throw caution to
the wind and saw wood. Life is too short to talk yourself out of
creating something beautiful that will bring joy to others as well as
yourself.
Ok -- I'm off the soap box!
Warm Regards,
Dennis Marshall
Thanks so much for your kind words regarding the Duckworks
magazine article. Chuck's hope is that my experiences will encourage
first time builders to take the plunge and perhaps give a chuckle to
the more experienced builders whose follies in their first attempt
were somewhat similar to mine.
What was not said in the article is that not only was this my
first boat building experience (of building anything for that matter)
but it was also my first time sailing ever! A life long dream of mine
was realized and this is one instance where the reality far surpassed
the expectations of my dreams.
Also, not five minutes after the "happy sailor" picture was
snapped by my gracious wife the rudder came unshipped during a tack
and we were blown into someone's dock and entagled in all sorts of
things before we could work ourselves loose. Taken in stride, even
such sailing faux pas could not dampen our enthusiasm. Even before we
launched the boat, my wife, Terry, insisted that I take sailing
lessons before she would get in the boat with me. You can see from
the pics who the first one in was! In the dozen times I've had it
out, I've never dumped the boat -- it is amazingly stable and
forgiving. Not to mention the fact that God watches over fools! I was
dismasted by a 25mph breeze -- a knot in the mast weakened it in a
strategic spot. I've had it on lakes and sailed up and down the
Grand River to the delight of many who had never seen anything but a
power boat or rowing dinghy on it. All in all, a very satisfying
experience.
If I lament anything, it is that I started too late in both the
summer and in life to attempt building and sailing a boat. While life
circumstances would have made this difficult anyway, doubts about
whether I could do it made it impossible. I would simply encourage
others who might be in a similar frame of mind to throw caution to
the wind and saw wood. Life is too short to talk yourself out of
creating something beautiful that will bring joy to others as well as
yourself.
Ok -- I'm off the soap box!
Warm Regards,
Dennis Marshall
--- In bolger@y..., ellengaest@b... wrote:
> Bolgerados!
> For all who find themselves up to their chins in nautical
> literature,slowly collecting study plans,buying "How to Build" boat
> books,waisting precious hours dreaming of building a certain boat
(or
> any boat!),stock-piling every tool the local hardware store stocks
and
> yet despite it all just don't think they have what it takes to
> actually build themselves a boat.............Well,for a positively
> up-lifting and encouraging tale,check out Dennis's recent article
in
> Duckworks Magazine.He confesses to being a first time
builder,loaded
> down with doubts yet manages to pull off a wonderfull rendering of
the
> "$200.00 sailboat" by Dave Carnell/Phil Bolger.
> To help you on your way toward taking that first nervous saw
blade
> to wood,here is the link to his article:
>
>http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/articles/inscrutable/index.htm
>
> That wasn't so hard now,was it? Just think how much fun YOU
will
> have making saw dust and ending up with a thing of beauty to
treasure
> and enjoy for many years to come!
> O.K.,that's it for me.Just feeling better and a wee bit excited
by
> another successful build.Kinda makes me wish it was summer outside
> and not this gastly harbinger to winter called autumn......
>
> Bravo Dennis!
> Sincerely,
> Peter Lenihan,fantasizing about what it must be like to live in a
year
> round warm climate,from the cold and getting colder shores of the
> St.Lawrence................
Bolgerados!
For all who find themselves up to their chins in nautical
literature,slowly collecting study plans,buying "How to Build" boat
books,waisting precious hours dreaming of building a certain boat(or
any boat!),stock-piling every tool the local hardware store stocks and
yet despite it all just don't think they have what it takes to
actually build themselves a boat.............Well,for a positively
up-lifting and encouraging tale,check out Dennis's recent article in
Duckworks Magazine.He confesses to being a first time builder,loaded
down with doubts yet manages to pull off a wonderfull rendering of the
"$200.00 sailboat" by Dave Carnell/Phil Bolger.
To help you on your way toward taking that first nervous saw blade
to wood,here is the link to his article:
http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/articles/inscrutable/index.htm
That wasn't so hard now,was it? Just think how much fun YOU will
have making saw dust and ending up with a thing of beauty to treasure
and enjoy for many years to come!
O.K.,that's it for me.Just feeling better and a wee bit excited by
another successful build.Kinda makes me wish it was summer outside
and not this gastly harbinger to winter called autumn......
Bravo Dennis!
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,fantasizing about what it must be like to live in a year
round warm climate,from the cold and getting colder shores of the
St.Lawrence................
For all who find themselves up to their chins in nautical
literature,slowly collecting study plans,buying "How to Build" boat
books,waisting precious hours dreaming of building a certain boat(or
any boat!),stock-piling every tool the local hardware store stocks and
yet despite it all just don't think they have what it takes to
actually build themselves a boat.............Well,for a positively
up-lifting and encouraging tale,check out Dennis's recent article in
Duckworks Magazine.He confesses to being a first time builder,loaded
down with doubts yet manages to pull off a wonderfull rendering of the
"$200.00 sailboat" by Dave Carnell/Phil Bolger.
To help you on your way toward taking that first nervous saw blade
to wood,here is the link to his article:
http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/articles/inscrutable/index.htm
That wasn't so hard now,was it? Just think how much fun YOU will
have making saw dust and ending up with a thing of beauty to treasure
and enjoy for many years to come!
O.K.,that's it for me.Just feeling better and a wee bit excited by
another successful build.Kinda makes me wish it was summer outside
and not this gastly harbinger to winter called autumn......
Bravo Dennis!
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,fantasizing about what it must be like to live in a year
round warm climate,from the cold and getting colder shores of the
St.Lawrence................