Re: AS-29 and MicroNavigator Webpage Update
What a dream! Peter the Poet...I bet you WROTE the Karma Sutra!
Regards, DonB
Regards, DonB
> Don,some
> You rascal,you! I would have at least expected you to arrange
> sort of hammock/sling inside that new spacious cabin from whichyou
> and spouse can be rocked,ever so gently to sleep, after a thoroughyou
> exploration of chapters 43 through 57 of the Karma Sutra.I doubt
> will be able to even hear the tapping of the waves or that theywill
> even matter after its all over..............Lenihan
>
> Continued success with the conversion!
> Sincerely,
> Peter
>water
>
>
> --- In bolger@y..., dbaldnz@y... wrote:
> > Peter, inspired by your post, my ever-loving wife has agreed to
> > participate in an experiment along the lines of your suggestion,
> when
> > Oink is relaunched. In the interests of science and after the
> > weather warms up, she has agreed to be keel-hauled under the
> > slapping part for one night(head and feet tied port and starboard
> > above water). If I get a good nights sleep, will let you know.
> > DonB
Don,
You rascal,you! I would have at least expected you to arrange some
sort of hammock/sling inside that new spacious cabin from which you
and spouse can be rocked,ever so gently to sleep, after a thorough
exploration of chapters 43 through 57 of the Karma Sutra.I doubt you
will be able to even hear the tapping of the waves or that they will
even matter after its all over..............
Continued success with the conversion!
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan
You rascal,you! I would have at least expected you to arrange some
sort of hammock/sling inside that new spacious cabin from which you
and spouse can be rocked,ever so gently to sleep, after a thorough
exploration of chapters 43 through 57 of the Karma Sutra.I doubt you
will be able to even hear the tapping of the waves or that they will
even matter after its all over..............
Continued success with the conversion!
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan
--- In bolger@y..., dbaldnz@y... wrote:
> Peter, inspired by your post, my ever-loving wife has agreed to
> participate in an experiment along the lines of your suggestion,
when
> Oink is relaunched. In the interests of science and after the
> weather warms up, she has agreed to be keel-hauled under the water
> slapping part for one night(head and feet tied port and starboard
> above water). If I get a good nights sleep, will let you know.
> DonB
Geren,
This just goes to show you how sneaking around on the web while at
work can be stress inducing!Thank you for pointing out another goof-up
of mine intended to correct the previous goof-up.
The word I was trying to get right clearly,was shifting.
Now shiffing,is an entirely different animal altogether.From the word
shiff which is what ones does each time they tighten up the
fledgebearing nut used to secure the metric threaded,port side
slimjigger.Often heard around boat yards in spring,as in;"Honey,can ya
get me another beer,I'm still shiffing the fledgebearing."
Of course,we all know there is nothing worse then to be safely
anchored in a picture-perfect,tree lined cove and to be startled awake
in the middle of a dark night by the familiar click,click,clunk,ping
sound of a loose fledgebearing.Some mighty good marriages have been
tested to the breaking point because"someone" forgot to do the
springtime shiffing...............
Anyway,can never be too careful!
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,dedicated shiffer,sometime goof-up and grateful
boater,from the shores of the mighty St.Lawrence.............
This just goes to show you how sneaking around on the web while at
work can be stress inducing!Thank you for pointing out another goof-up
of mine intended to correct the previous goof-up.
The word I was trying to get right clearly,was shifting.
Now shiffing,is an entirely different animal altogether.From the word
shiff which is what ones does each time they tighten up the
fledgebearing nut used to secure the metric threaded,port side
slimjigger.Often heard around boat yards in spring,as in;"Honey,can ya
get me another beer,I'm still shiffing the fledgebearing."
Of course,we all know there is nothing worse then to be safely
anchored in a picture-perfect,tree lined cove and to be startled awake
in the middle of a dark night by the familiar click,click,clunk,ping
sound of a loose fledgebearing.Some mighty good marriages have been
tested to the breaking point because"someone" forgot to do the
springtime shiffing...............
Anyway,can never be too careful!
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,dedicated shiffer,sometime goof-up and grateful
boater,from the shores of the mighty St.Lawrence.............
--- In bolger@y..., "Geren W. Mortensen, Jr." <gerenm@h...> wrote:
> I didn't even notice until you pointed it out. Now, I'm wondering
what
> "Shiffing" is....
>
> At 11/16/01 01:19 PM, you wrote:
> >If y'all be kind enough to see two ffs instead of two tts in my
last
> >post,it will both make more sense and be less offensive.Sorry!
>
>
> Geren W. Mortensen, Jr.
> Columbia, Maryland, USA
>
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Peter, inspired by your post, my ever-loving wife has agreed to
participate in an experiment along the lines of your suggestion, when
Oink is relaunched. In the interests of science and after the
weather warms up, she has agreed to be keel-hauled under the water
slapping part for one night(head and feet tied port and starboard
above water). If I get a good nights sleep, will let you know.
DonB
Part of the problem,when it occurs,involves waves getting "trapped"
participate in an experiment along the lines of your suggestion, when
Oink is relaunched. In the interests of science and after the
weather warms up, she has agreed to be keel-hauled under the water
slapping part for one night(head and feet tied port and starboard
above water). If I get a good nights sleep, will let you know.
DonB
Part of the problem,when it occurs,involves waves getting "trapped"
> or "pinched" by the presence of that full lenght keel whichprevents
> a cross over of waves not exactly hitting the boat dead on theis
> nose.Lots of gurgling,burps and pops!
> Short of finding a perfectly still anchorage/beaching or even
> anchoring sideways(something I've tried a few times) the best cure
> lots of good port or wine!!!be
> And if the weather permits,sleeping under the stars in the
> cockpit!!
> The water jugs......lots of rackette........I would seriously
> inclined to try Bolgers idea of going with some type of cheapis
> inflatable air-mattress,perhaps captured in one of those equally
> cheap stowage nets,then roped off underneath the bow section.This
> best for those who do not/cannot enjoy fermented grape juice.
> Sincerely,
> Peter Lenihan
I didn't even notice until you pointed it out. Now, I'm wondering what
"Shiffing" is....
At 11/16/01 01:19 PM, you wrote:
Columbia, Maryland, USA
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"Shiffing" is....
At 11/16/01 01:19 PM, you wrote:
>If y'all be kind enough to see two ffs instead of two tts in my lastGeren W. Mortensen, Jr.
>post,it will both make more sense and be less offensive.Sorry!
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If y'all be kind enough to see two ffs instead of two tts in my last
post,it will both make more sense and be less offensive.Sorry!
post,it will both make more sense and be less offensive.Sorry!
--- In bolger@y..., ellengaest@b... wrote:
> Hi Paul,
> Moving weight forward will in fact only make matters worse as
> you will be progressively presenting a"flatter" surface for the
waves
> to ride under then slap/pound.Shitting weight aft presents more of
a
> curved surface(fore and aft) which helps frustrate some of that
slap.
Hi Paul,
Moving weight forward will in fact only make matters worse as
you will be progressively presenting a"flatter" surface for the waves
to ride under then slap/pound.Shitting weight aft presents more of a
curved surface(fore and aft) which helps frustrate some of that slap.
Part of the problem,when it occurs,involves waves getting "trapped"
or "pinched" by the presence of that full lenght keel which prevents
a cross over of waves not exactly hitting the boat dead on the
nose.Lots of gurgling,burps and pops!
Short of finding a perfectly still anchorage/beaching or even
anchoring sideways(something I've tried a few times) the best cure is
lots of good port or wine!!!
And if the weather permits,sleeping under the stars in the
cockpit!!
The water jugs......lots of rackette........I would seriously be
inclined to try Bolgers idea of going with some type of cheap
inflatable air-mattress,perhaps captured in one of those equally
cheap stowage nets,then roped off underneath the bow section.This is
best for those who do not/cannot enjoy fermented grape juice.
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,sneeking in another run at the computer while the boss
enjoys his lunch,ha!,not from from the St.Lawrence........
Moving weight forward will in fact only make matters worse as
you will be progressively presenting a"flatter" surface for the waves
to ride under then slap/pound.Shitting weight aft presents more of a
curved surface(fore and aft) which helps frustrate some of that slap.
Part of the problem,when it occurs,involves waves getting "trapped"
or "pinched" by the presence of that full lenght keel which prevents
a cross over of waves not exactly hitting the boat dead on the
nose.Lots of gurgling,burps and pops!
Short of finding a perfectly still anchorage/beaching or even
anchoring sideways(something I've tried a few times) the best cure is
lots of good port or wine!!!
And if the weather permits,sleeping under the stars in the
cockpit!!
The water jugs......lots of rackette........I would seriously be
inclined to try Bolgers idea of going with some type of cheap
inflatable air-mattress,perhaps captured in one of those equally
cheap stowage nets,then roped off underneath the bow section.This is
best for those who do not/cannot enjoy fermented grape juice.
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,sneeking in another run at the computer while the boss
enjoys his lunch,ha!,not from from the St.Lawrence........
--- In bolger@y..., "Paul Lefebvre" <paul@w...> wrote:
> Peter,
> is slamming under the bow overhang at anchor a real problem in
Lestat? I'd
> already noticed from plans and photos that the waterline hits at
about the
> point where the 'pillow' of the bunk flats falls.... do you suppose
putting
> some weight in the bow well might bring things down enough to
prevent the
> noise, or at least move it elsewhere? I'm thinking of a couple of
those
> cheap collapsible 5gal water jugs, filled with whatever you happen
to be
> floating in and put as far forward as possible at night. Of course
at 235
> lbs I'll have alot of weight forward already - I once slept in the
> claustrophobic V-berth of a 24' Bristol-designed fiberglass sloop,
and in
> the middle of the night we woke up to find the boat pointing
backwards away
> from its anchor line, and opposite all the other boats in the
anchorage,
> apparently due to weight distribution. The owner awoke in the
middle of the
> night and poked her head out and became rather alarmed, as this had
never
> happened before - she assumed we were dragging though there was
barely a
> breath of wind...... of course with the mizzen up, this is not
likely to
> happen on Micro.
>
> Paul L.
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ellengaest@b... [mailto:ellengaest@b...]
> > Not wishing to rain on anyones parade but.....if one looks
closely at
> > where the static waterline is located relative to the flat bottom
> > (right under the sleepers head),I somehow fear that the extension
> > will in fact do little to reduce "wave slap" as it occures at the
> > static waterline location and not further out in space(thin air?)
> > where the new extension hangs.
> > It is nice looking however,for those who have a hard time with
> > squares ends.
> > Sincerely,
> > Peter Lenihan,on the mild shores of the St.Lawrence.........
> >
> >
Peter,
is slamming under the bow overhang at anchor a real problem in Lestat? I'd
already noticed from plans and photos that the waterline hits at about the
point where the 'pillow' of the bunk flats falls.... do you suppose putting
some weight in the bow well might bring things down enough to prevent the
noise, or at least move it elsewhere? I'm thinking of a couple of those
cheap collapsible 5gal water jugs, filled with whatever you happen to be
floating in and put as far forward as possible at night. Of course at 235
lbs I'll have alot of weight forward already - I once slept in the
claustrophobic V-berth of a 24' Bristol-designed fiberglass sloop, and in
the middle of the night we woke up to find the boat pointing backwards away
from its anchor line, and opposite all the other boats in the anchorage,
apparently due to weight distribution. The owner awoke in the middle of the
night and poked her head out and became rather alarmed, as this had never
happened before - she assumed we were dragging though there was barely a
breath of wind...... of course with the mizzen up, this is not likely to
happen on Micro.
Paul L.
is slamming under the bow overhang at anchor a real problem in Lestat? I'd
already noticed from plans and photos that the waterline hits at about the
point where the 'pillow' of the bunk flats falls.... do you suppose putting
some weight in the bow well might bring things down enough to prevent the
noise, or at least move it elsewhere? I'm thinking of a couple of those
cheap collapsible 5gal water jugs, filled with whatever you happen to be
floating in and put as far forward as possible at night. Of course at 235
lbs I'll have alot of weight forward already - I once slept in the
claustrophobic V-berth of a 24' Bristol-designed fiberglass sloop, and in
the middle of the night we woke up to find the boat pointing backwards away
from its anchor line, and opposite all the other boats in the anchorage,
apparently due to weight distribution. The owner awoke in the middle of the
night and poked her head out and became rather alarmed, as this had never
happened before - she assumed we were dragging though there was barely a
breath of wind...... of course with the mizzen up, this is not likely to
happen on Micro.
Paul L.
> -----Original Message-----
> From:ellengaest@...[mailto:ellengaest@...]
> Not wishing to rain on anyones parade but.....if one looks closely at
> where the static waterline is located relative to the flat bottom
> (right under the sleepers head),I somehow fear that the extension
> will in fact do little to reduce "wave slap" as it occures at the
> static waterline location and not further out in space(thin air?)
> where the new extension hangs.
> It is nice looking however,for those who have a hard time with
> squares ends.
> Sincerely,
> Peter Lenihan,on the mild shores of the St.Lawrence.........
>
>
Matt,
Very nice pics of the Navigator! First photos I've seen of one built from
scratch, looks like a first-rate job. Can't wait to see what it looks like
rigged. Also really enjoyed your writeup on the AS-29's handling. I find
myself steadily more interested in the AS-29; when I first saw the design I
found it unattractive, but I think I'm getting over that.
I find it curious that the first two Navigators that have appeared on this
forum are from down under (Oink popped back up here as a Nav conversion just
the other day, and appears to be from NZ), and both have had their bows
extended and sharpened. I'm very interested in hearing how these boats
perform.
Paul L.
Very nice pics of the Navigator! First photos I've seen of one built from
scratch, looks like a first-rate job. Can't wait to see what it looks like
rigged. Also really enjoyed your writeup on the AS-29's handling. I find
myself steadily more interested in the AS-29; when I first saw the design I
found it unattractive, but I think I'm getting over that.
I find it curious that the first two Navigators that have appeared on this
forum are from down under (Oink popped back up here as a Nav conversion just
the other day, and appears to be from NZ), and both have had their bows
extended and sharpened. I'm very interested in hearing how these boats
perform.
Paul L.
> In response to requests for more photos of the Micro Navigator
> currently under construction, I have updated my webpage:
>
>http://members.fortunecity.com/booraleaboats/index.html
>
> Matt
>booraleaboats@...
Not wishing to rain on anyones parade but.....if one looks closely at
where the static waterline is located relative to the flat bottom
(right under the sleepers head),I somehow fear that the extension
will in fact do little to reduce "wave slap" as it occures at the
static waterline location and not further out in space(thin air?)
where the new extension hangs.
It is nice looking however,for those who have a hard time with
squares ends.
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,on the mild shores of the St.Lawrence.........
where the static waterline is located relative to the flat bottom
(right under the sleepers head),I somehow fear that the extension
will in fact do little to reduce "wave slap" as it occures at the
static waterline location and not further out in space(thin air?)
where the new extension hangs.
It is nice looking however,for those who have a hard time with
squares ends.
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,on the mild shores of the St.Lawrence.........
--- In bolger@y..., booraleaboats@h... wrote:
> My intention in extending the bow to a point was to reduce the
> hull slap at anchor/mooring on a small boat and to improve
> performance in a seaway with the extra length and buoyancy of the
> foam.
>
That is an interesting point about the mooring noise.
Let us know if your approach is of any help. It would
be a big leap forward if it where, and I would
certainly accept the additional work for such a purpose.
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be a big leap forward if it where, and I would
certainly accept the additional work for such a purpose.
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My intention in extending the bow to a point was to reduce the
hull slap at anchor/mooring on a small boat and to improve
performance in a seaway with the extra length and buoyancy of the
foam.
The heel of the stem is now exactly level with the heel of the stern
(ie 5 1/2" off the waterline).The frames and bulkheads are setup to
exactly the same spacings and heights as the micro. I expect that
the stem will dampen motion offshore without causing drag. Phil
Bolger has expressed his approval of the modification although
he may consider it unnecessary extra work.
It's good to see that there is positive interest in the project.
Cheers.
hull slap at anchor/mooring on a small boat and to improve
performance in a seaway with the extra length and buoyancy of the
foam.
The heel of the stem is now exactly level with the heel of the stern
(ie 5 1/2" off the waterline).The frames and bulkheads are setup to
exactly the same spacings and heights as the micro. I expect that
the stem will dampen motion offshore without causing drag. Phil
Bolger has expressed his approval of the modification although
he may consider it unnecessary extra work.
It's good to see that there is positive interest in the project.
Cheers.
--- In bolger@y..., thomas dalzell <proaconstrictor@y...> wrote:
> Nice looking hull. I noticed you really rounded out
> the chines up front. Nice look, when the boat is
> healed, that is sort of the stem, however. Where you
> trying to avoid drag from crabbing?
>
>
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>
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> <tt>
> <BR>
> <BR>
> Hi all,<BR>
> <BR>
> In response to requests for more photos of the Micro
> Navigator<BR>
> currently under construction, I have updated my
> webpage:<BR>
> <BR>
> <a
>
href="http://members.fortunecity.com/booraleaboats/index.html">http://
members.fortunecity.com/booraleaboats/index.html</a><BR>
> <BR>
> Recently, the lead ballast was attached, and the hull
> now awaits<BR>
> the addition of the cabin. More photos pending.<BR>
> <BR>
> Also, I have included AS-29 description and inventory
> details<BR>
> and a page on my experience of handling the AS-29.<BR>
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Nice looking hull. I noticed you really rounded out
the chines up front. Nice look, when the boat is
healed, that is sort of the stem, however. Where you
trying to avoid drag from crabbing?
---booraleaboats@...wrote:
<HR>
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<tt>
<BR>
<BR>
Hi all,<BR>
<BR>
In response to requests for more photos of the Micro
Navigator<BR>
currently under construction, I have updated my
webpage:<BR>
<BR>
<a
href="http://members.fortunecity.com/booraleaboats/index.html">http://members.fortunecity.com/booraleaboats/index.html</a><BR>
<BR>
Recently, the lead ballast was attached, and the hull
now awaits<BR>
the addition of the cabin. More photos pending.<BR>
<BR>
Also, I have included AS-29 description and inventory
details<BR>
and a page on my experience of handling the AS-29.<BR>
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healed, that is sort of the stem, however. Where you
trying to avoid drag from crabbing?
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Hi all,<BR>
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In response to requests for more photos of the Micro
Navigator<BR>
currently under construction, I have updated my
webpage:<BR>
<BR>
<a
href="http://members.fortunecity.com/booraleaboats/index.html">http://members.fortunecity.com/booraleaboats/index.html</a><BR>
<BR>
Recently, the lead ballast was attached, and the hull
now awaits<BR>
the addition of the cabin. More photos pending.<BR>
<BR>
Also, I have included AS-29 description and inventory
details<BR>
and a page on my experience of handling the AS-29.<BR>
<BR>
Matt<BR>
booraleaboats@...<BR>
<BR>
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Hi all,
In response to requests for more photos of the Micro Navigator
currently under construction, I have updated my webpage:
http://members.fortunecity.com/booraleaboats/index.html
Recently, the lead ballast was attached, and the hull now awaits
the addition of the cabin. More photos pending.
Also, I have included AS-29 description and inventory details
and a page on my experience of handling the AS-29.
Matt
booraleaboats@...
In response to requests for more photos of the Micro Navigator
currently under construction, I have updated my webpage:
http://members.fortunecity.com/booraleaboats/index.html
Recently, the lead ballast was attached, and the hull now awaits
the addition of the cabin. More photos pending.
Also, I have included AS-29 description and inventory details
and a page on my experience of handling the AS-29.
Matt
booraleaboats@...