Re: [bolger] Re: Digest Number 794 & Windermere

Peter:
I am eagerly awaiting my MAIB to see the new
Windemere. Does the article describe the "flat
davits" for dinghy launch/retrieval? Or could you
fill us in on the design?

Thanks, Sam.

--- ellengaestboatbuildingcom
<ellengaest@...> wrote:

> Steve,
> Either check out the latest MAIB issue or go to
> the BOLGER2
> YAHOO group,under files...
> That's about all that exists for the moment.
>
> Peter Lenihan
>
>
>
>
> --- In bolger@y..., Steven Geoffrey Keating
> <sgkeating@m...> wrote:
> > Could someone provide the web site or address to
> view the images of
> Windmere?
> >
> > Thanks and Happy New Year
> >
> > Steve
>
>
>

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Either check out the latest MAIB issue or go to the BOLGER2
YAHOO group,under files...
That's about all that exists for the moment.
Peter Lenihan

--- In bolger@y..., Steven Geoffrey Keating <sgkeating@m...> wrote:
> Could someone provide the web site or address to view the images of
Windmere?
>
> Thanks and Happy New Year
>
> Steve

Could someone provide the web site or address to view the images of Windmere?

Thanks and Happy New Year

Steve

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> There are 24 messages in this issue.
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> Topics in this digest:
>
> 1. Re: Bee?
> From: Mark Albanese <marka@...>
> 2. Re: WINDERMERE revealed...at last!
> From: Larry Whited <lwhited@...>
> 3. Re: info needed Bolger SuperBrick
> From: "Chuck Leinweber" <chuck@...>
> 4. Re: Re: batteries, series vs parallel
> From: "Clyde S. Wisner" <clydewis@...>
> 5. Re: WINDERMERE revealed...at last!
> From: "dnjost" <djost@...>
> 6. Re: Digest Number 793 - 'BEE'
> From: "Ron Magen" <quohog@...>
> 7. Re: WINDERMERE revealed...at last!
> From: "ellengaestboatbuildingcom" <ellengaest@...>
> 8. Re: Michigan Messabout
> From: "rdchamberland" <cha62759@...>
> 9. Re: Michigan Messabout
> From: "pseudodion3" <PseudoDion3@...>
> 10. Re: Re: Sailing a Micro (newbie)
> From: "Phillip & Isabella" <isabella@...>
> 11. Re: Re: Plan Resale
> From: thomas dalzell <proaconstrictor@...>
> 12. Re: info needed Bolger SuperBrick
> From: thomas dalzell <proaconstrictor@...>
> 13. Gunter Rig
> From: "pseudodion3" <PseudoDion3@...>
> 14. Re: WINDERMERE revealed...at last!
> From: "dbaldnz" <dbaldnz@...>
> 15. Re: WINDERMERE revealed...at last!
> From: "John Bell" <jmbell@...>
> 16. Re: Re: WINDERMERE revealed...at last!
> From: "Chuck Leinweber" <chuck@...>
> 17. Re: WINDERMERE revealed...at last!
> From: "vexatious2001" <cadbury@...>
> 18. Re: WINDERMERE revealed...at last!
> From: "ellengaestboatbuildingcom" <ellengaest@...>
> 19. Re: WINDERMERE revealed...at last!
> From: "ellengaestboatbuildingcom" <ellengaest@...>
> 20. Re: WINDERMERE revealed...at last!
> From: "ellengaestboatbuildingcom" <ellengaest@...>
> 21. Re: WINDERMERE revealed...at last!
> From: "ellengaestboatbuildingcom" <ellengaest@...>
> 22. Re: Gunter Rig
> From: "pvanderwaart" <pvanderwaart@...>
> 23. Re: Wyoming
> From: "jhbjap" <boatbuilding@...>
> 24. Wyoming
> From: "jhbjap" <boatbuilding@...>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 00:38:52 -0800
> From: Mark Albanese <marka@...>
> Subject: Re: Bee?
>
> Leave out the, "Bolger."
>
> kingfm wrote:
> >
> > Anyone built a Bolger Bee or has there been any discussion
> > of it
> > here? If you do a search in the archives for it you get
> > virtually
> > every post!
> >
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 00:34:09 -0800 (PST)
> From: Larry Whited <lwhited@...>
> Subject: Re: WINDERMERE revealed...at last!
>
> I am new to the Bolger group but have built a Nymph and a Micro. I am very excited about the Windermere design. It represents a size and usability level that makes it an attractive project. By this I mean that the boats in the 20-23 foot catagory require a lot of building time and still don't quite meet my desires for extended cruising. This one really promises a lot. I will eagerly follow any and all building projects of this design. I hope a web site will go along with this detailing the building experience!
> Good Luck with this exciting project. Perhaps I will be next.
> Larry
> ellengaestboatbuildingcom <ellengaest@...> wrote: Bolgerados,
> I have just up-loaded two files to the Bolger2 group illustrating
> the Bolger design WINDERMERE.
> She will be my future retirement home and all-around cruiser.As
> the building of her progresses,I'll be posting pictures and keeping
> everyone up-dated.Promise!
> I hope you enjoy re-viewing the files of her especially as she
> represents a very serious attempt at creating honest-to-goodness
> cruising capability/endurance within a shape very much to my liking
> and she is,of course,from the board of our hero,Philip C.Bolger who so
> generously made me an offer I just couldn't refuse.(Thank you, Phil!)
> Plans for this most enchanting design are available from the
> offices of PCB & Friends Inc.
> Sincerely,
> Peter Lenihan,head over heals for this design and no,LESTAT will not
> be relegated to the role of dinghy(she really deserves a good
> home!),from the chilly shores of the St.Lawrence......
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 08:01:44 -0600
> From: "Chuck Leinweber" <chuck@...>
> Subject: Re: info needed Bolger SuperBrick
>
> No, it's one of those antique information devices called books. Search Amazon or your favorite bookseller for: "Boats with an Open Mind" by Phil Bolger. Then buy it - no exceptions!
>
> Chuck
> >No I havent, is it a online article?
> thanks
> Sam
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 09:19:14 -0500
> From: "Clyde S. Wisner" <clydewis@...>
> Subject: Re: Re: batteries, series vs parallel
>
> A couple of pict at www.carr.org/~clydewis
>
> brucehallman wrote:
>
> > --- In bolger@y..., "Clyde S. Wisner" <clydewis@c...> wrote:
> >
> > >(I have a Lily)
> >
> > You have a Lily, cool! Any pictures available?
> >
> >
> > Bolger rules!!!
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> > - pls take "personals" off-list, stay on topic, and punctuate
> > - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts, snip all you like
> > - To order plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA, 01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 14:35:48 -0000
> From: "dnjost" <djost@...>
> Subject: Re: WINDERMERE revealed...at last!
>
> Peter,
> Best of luck with your project. I am kind of surprised at the
> quantum shift from your Micro, but I am sure that your construction
> skills will produce a quality project.
> What is the little derrick on the front for? It kind of reminds
> me of a Winnebago with a motor. This boat could be a lot of fun!
>
> David Jost
>
>
> > I have just up-loaded two files to the Bolger2 group
> illustrating
> > the Bolger design WINDERMERE.
> > She will be my future retirement home and all-around
> cruiser.As
> > the building of her progresses,I'll be posting pictures and keeping
> > everyone up-dated.Promise!
> > I hope you enjoy re-viewing the files of her especially as she
> > represents a very serious attempt at creating honest-to-goodness
> > cruising capability/endurance within a shape very much to my liking
> > and she is,of course,from the board of our hero,Philip C.Bolger who
> so
> > generously made me an offer I just couldn't refuse.(Thank you,
> Phil!)
> > Plans for this most enchanting design are available from the
> > offices of PCB & Friends Inc.
> > Sincerely,
> > Peter Lenihan,head over heals for this design and no,LESTAT will
> not
> > be relegated to the role of dinghy(she really deserves a good
> > home!),from the chilly shores of the St.Lawrence......
>
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>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 12:09:47 -0500
> From: "Ron Magen" <quohog@...>
> Subject: Re: Digest Number 793 - 'BEE'
>
> 'kingfm' & Vince and Mary Ann,
>
> Nice to see that my article made such an impression.
>
> If you want any specific information that isn't mentioned, or help,
> please drop me a line.
>
> Regards,
> Ron Magen
> Backyard Boatshop
>
> > Message: 16
> > Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 01:16:58 -0000
> > From: "kingfm" <king@...>
> > Subject: Bee?
> >
> > Anyone built a Bolger Bee or has there been any discussion of it
> > here? If you do a search in the archives for it you get virtually
> > every post!
> >
> >
> > Message: 17
> > Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 21:58:21 -0500
> > From: Vince and Mary Ann Chew <vachew@...>
> > Subject: RE: Bee?
> >
> >
> > Have you see this article in Duckworks Magazine?
> >
> >
> >http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/articles/bee/index.htm
> >
> >
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 17:29:33 -0000
> From: "ellengaestboatbuildingcom" <ellengaest@...>
> Subject: Re: WINDERMERE revealed...at last!
>
> David,
> Thanks.Sure,it appears as a big shift but it has the headroom I've
> always dreamed about along with some genuine space to
> cruise/live-a-board in fine fashion,also something I've dreamed of for
> a very very long time.
> That little derrick in front? Well,that's for raising a 30lb
> anchor without fear of damaging the hull sides or wrecking my lower
> back and as I intend to do alot of river cruising,I expect to do alot
> of anchoring to take fukk advantage of the autonomy this boat offers
> from expensive marinas etc......
> She'll be a grand sight to see coasting down to a future Lake
> Champlain Bolger Messabout with all the comforts of home including a
> very happy Pesky Crew!!
> And finally,if I do this right,WINDERMERE should out-live me by a
> long shot.A truly wonderful way to ease into retirement and
> ultimately out of this life.Heeee! Haaaa!
> Continued Success with FIREFLY!
>
> Sincerely,
> Peter Lenihan,on the threshold of a dream come true,despite the snow
> on the shores of the St.Lawrence...........
>
>
> --- In bolger@y..., "dnjost" <djost@m...> wrote:
> > Peter,
> > Best of luck with your project. I am kind of surprised at the
> > quantum shift from your Micro, but I am sure that your construction
> > skills will produce a quality project.
> > What is the little derrick on the front for? It kind of
> reminds
> > me of a Winnebago with a motor. This boat could be a lot of fun!
> >
> > David Jost
>
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>
> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 21:14:53 -0000
> From: "rdchamberland" <cha62759@...>
> Subject: Re: Michigan Messabout
>
> Late June or July sounds good to me. I can recommend Suttons Bay as a
> venue though after the fourth rooms get scarce. There is a State
> campground north of Northport but a rocky beach. If the timing is
> right and the crowd not too large I might be able to host campers
> though sanitation would be a portipotty (commercial variety) and
> garden hose. There may be a "Wooden Boat Festival" in the Village of
> Suttons Bay in that time span also. This past year it was cancelled
> because of construction of a new fishing dock at the usual site. (This
> is not the usual swarm of shiny Chris-Crafts and Gar Woods etc but a
> very eclectic mix of boats including a Bolger box at times. There
> might be a CC or two but this is not an event of the Antique Boat
> Society whatever its name is. I had intended to go the Saginaw event
> last summer but visitors obtruded. It looked to me that that event was
> heavy on kayaks. You would not want to get dunked in early June; by
> the fourth the water is warming up (sort of).
> Bob Chamberland
>
> --- In bolger@y..., Vince and Mary Ann Chew <vachew@v...> wrote:
> > Sounds like a winner. There was one in St. Ignace a few years back and
> > some kind of a get together in the Saginaw/Bay City area the past couple
> > of years. I went to St. Ignace, but haven't been to the Saginaw/Bay City
> > one. Where do you have in mind?
> >
> > Vince Chew
> > Charlevoix
> >
> > Dennis Marshall, Grand Rapids, MI Wrote
> >
> > .................... P.S. Sorry for the slightly off topic message,
> > folks. If I find a few
> > more Michiganians, might be able to put together a
> > Michigan Messabout
> > this summer.
>
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>
> Message: 9
> Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 22:25:29 -0000
> From: "pseudodion3" <PseudoDion3@...>
> Subject: Re: Michigan Messabout
>
> Bob -- excellent point about the water temperature. Heck, even down
> this way the water does not really warm up until mid-August if we are
> lucky. Just this last summer my wife, Terry, and I went strolling
> along the Lake Michigan shore in mid-late July and I swear the water
> temp was in the mid-upper 50's. It took me walking around on hot sand
> for 15 minutes before I could feel my feet again!
> Maybe we could settle on a large inland lake -- we have more
> than 10,000 to choose from. These would offer a warmer dunk if
> circumstances warrant.
>
> Dennis Marshall, Grand Rapids, MI
>
> --- In bolger@y..., "rdchamberland" <cha62759@t...> wrote:
> > Late June or July sounds good to me. I can recommend Suttons Bay as
> a
> > venue though after the fourth rooms get scarce. There is a State
> > campground north of Northport but a rocky beach. If the timing is
> > right and the crowd not too large I might be able to host campers
> > though sanitation would be a portipotty (commercial variety) and
> > garden hose. There may be a "Wooden Boat Festival" in the Village of
> > Suttons Bay in that time span also. This past year it was cancelled
> > because of construction of a new fishing dock at the usual site.
> (This
> > is not the usual swarm of shiny Chris-Crafts and Gar Woods etc but a
> > very eclectic mix of boats including a Bolger box at times. There
> > might be a CC or two but this is not an event of the Antique Boat
> > Society whatever its name is. I had intended to go the Saginaw event
> > last summer but visitors obtruded. It looked to me that that event
> was
> > heavy on kayaks. You would not want to get dunked in early June; by
> > the fourth the water is warming up (sort of).
> > Bob Chamberland
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In bolger@y..., Vince and Mary Ann Chew <vachew@v...> wrote:
> > > Sounds like a winner. There was one in St. Ignace a few years
> back and
> > > some kind of a get together in the Saginaw/Bay City area the past
> couple
> > > of years. I went to St. Ignace, but haven't been to the
> Saginaw/Bay City
> > > one. Where do you have in mind?
> > >
> > > Vince Chew
> > > Charlevoix
> > >
> > > Dennis Marshall, Grand Rapids, MI Wrote
> > >
> > > .................... P.S. Sorry for the slightly off topic
> message,
> > > folks. If I find a few
> > > more Michiganians, might be able to put
> together a
> > > Michigan Messabout
> > > this summer.
>
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>
> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 09:30:17 +1000
> From: "Phillip & Isabella" <isabella@...>
> Subject: Re: Re: Sailing a Micro (newbie)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andrew Pryer" <dukepryer@...>
> To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 8:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [bolger] Re: Sailing a Micro (newbie)
>
> > G'day
> > re : your problem with out board motor
> >
> > I was up against the same problem tryng to fit my outboard into the Long
> > Micro I am building. I got around it by introducing a curve to the top of
> > the transom this gained me about 2 inches or more.
> > You can see what I have done at the the website I'm putting together (
> just
> > updated )
> >
> > I'm as interested as you regarding other's suggestions for mooring lines
> > etc.
> >
> > Good luck with sorting it out.
> > My website athttp://members.tripod.com/rivaldukesite has lots of
> > construction pictures and takes awhile to load
> >
> > Thanks Andrew Pryer
> > Victoria
> > Australia
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "ellengaestboatbuildingcom" <ellengaest@...>
> > To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 1:50 AM
> > Subject: [bolger] Re: Sailing a Micro (newbie)
> >
> >
> > > --- In bolger@y..., "robertsmme" <martin.me.roberts@b...> wrote:
> > > > I have just purchase a 2nd hand micro, and was wondering if any one
> > > > could give me tips on sailing one. I live on a tidal estuary, The
> > > > Deben in eastern England and would appreciate any help and piinters
> > > > that people can give. I am concerned about two things in
> > > particular:
> > > >
> > > > 1) As the rear bulkhead was not adjusted for a larger motor the
> > > motor
> > > > has been put on a bracket behind the rear bulkhead. This means
> > > > reaching it is going to be difficult. Any tips on either remotely
> > > > controlling the motor or on adjusting the rear bulk head to
> > > > accomodate the larger motor.
> > > >
> > > > 2) Attaching the Bow to a mooring or anchor. Do you attach them
> > > > through the 'ladder' holes or over the bow gunnel?
> > > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello Lucky Micro owner,
> > > When you say the transom was not adjusted for a larger motor,are
> > > you refering to the vertical dimension? If so,then the easy solution
> > > is to cut out the top section over the opening and install a
> > > traveller horse.You can also widen the opening a wee bit too,if that
> > > is tight.
> > > As to the anchoring question,I resolved mine through the
> > > installation of a hawse pipe located between to two step cut-outs.
> > > Hopefully,other satisfied Micro owners will chime in with other
> > > solutions to ensure trouble free use of your boat!
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > > Peter Lenihan,happy Micro owner................
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Bolger rules!!!
> > > - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or flogging dead horses
> > > - pls take "personals" off-list, stay on topic, and punctuate
> > > - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts, snip all you like
> > > - To order plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA,
> > 01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
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> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > Bolger rules!!!
> > - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or flogging dead horses
> > - pls take "personals" off-list, stay on topic, and punctuate
> > - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts, snip all you like
> > - To order plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA,
> 01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
> > - Unsubscribe:bolger-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> >
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> >
> >
>
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> Message: 11
> Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 18:25:24 -0500 (EST)
> From: thomas dalzell <proaconstrictor@...>
> Subject: Re: Re: Plan Resale
>
> Thomas, what comes after "(Snip)"? Inquiring minds
> want to know. ;)<
>
> I can imagine. Nothing so scandalous was snipped, but
> I am not going to be the conduit for it.
>
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> Message: 12
> Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 18:37:25 -0500 (EST)
> From: thomas dalzell <proaconstrictor@...>
> Subject: Re: info needed Bolger SuperBrick
>
> In the book he describes it by allusion to the
> Shanty-boat concept. This is less a boat for sailing
> and motoring pleasure, than a houseboat that can be
> sailed and motored. Of course as to how all that
> sorts out, would depend on the kind of
> sailing/motoring one had in mind, might be perfect
> daysailer for someone.
>
> The article also makes clear that the boat is built in
> sections, so that one assembles the skiff, and then
> builds up the sides and over the top, for ease of
> construction.
>
> --- Chuck Leinweber <chuck@...>
> wrote:
>
> <HR>
> <html><body>
>
> <tt>
> Sam: 
> 
> I guess you have seen the chapter on SuperBrick in
> BWAOM page 365. 
> 
> Chuck 
> Looking for printed mateial on Bolger
> SuperBrick 
> Ive seen the pictures in file, need a article
> on it. 
> Ive searched web and have found nothing. 
> Thanks 
> Sam 
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 13
> Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 01:55:56 -0000
> From: "pseudodion3" <PseudoDion3@...>
> Subject: Gunter Rig
>
> Hi, All. PCB is certainly no fan of the gunter rig -- at least
> according to "103 Small Rigs." However, I notice that these are used
> in many designs still. Could it be that it has more virtures than
> vices. Would anyone care to comment?
>
> Thanks, Dennis Marshall
>
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> Message: 14
> Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 03:39:43 -0000
> From: "dbaldnz" <dbaldnz@...>
> Subject: Re: WINDERMERE revealed...at last!
>
> Peter, what a hell of a fine looking craft.
> A couple of points of interest to me- seems to be a Sneakeasy type
> hull, with the corner filled in, presumably to cut out slap? Is the
> fill in piece foam or ply? Does she have water ballast...looks like
> tanks down the keel?
> No more anchoring to beat the tides!
> DonB
>
> --- In bolger@y..., "ellengaestboatbuildingcom" <ellengaest@b...>
> wrote:
> > Bolgerados,
> > I have just up-loaded two files to the Bolger2 group
> illustrating
> > the Bolger design WINDERMERE.
> > She will be my future retirement home and all-around
> cruiser.As
> > the building of her progresses,I'll be posting pictures and keeping
> > everyone up-dated.Promise!
> > I hope you enjoy re-viewing the files of her especially as she
> > represents a very serious attempt at creating honest-to-goodness
> > cruising capability/endurance within a shape very much to my liking
> > and she is,of course,from the board of our hero,Philip C.Bolger who
> so
> > generously made me an offer I just couldn't refuse.(Thank you,
> Phil!)
> > Plans for this most enchanting design are available from the
> > offices of PCB & Friends Inc.
> > Sincerely,
> > Peter Lenihan,head over heals for this design and no,LESTAT will
> not
> > be relegated to the role of dinghy(she really deserves a good
> > home!),from the chilly shores of the St.Lawrence......
>
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> Message: 15
> Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 22:52:18 -0500
> From: "John Bell" <jmbell@...>
> Subject: Re: WINDERMERE revealed...at last!
>
> A sweet little cruiser you have there. Looks like quite project ahead of
> you. Hope you can secure some heated building space so you can at least make
> progress in the winter time.
>
> Is that a deck aft above the motors? How are you supposed to launch (and
> retrieve) the skiff?
>
> JB
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ellengaestboatbuildingcom" <ellengaest@...>
> To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 12:10 AM
> Subject: [bolger] WINDERMERE revealed...at last!
>
> | Bolgerados,
> | I have just up-loaded two files to the Bolger2 group illustrating
> | the Bolger design WINDERMERE.
> | She will be my future retirement home and all-around cruiser.As
> | the building of her progresses,I'll be posting pictures and keeping
> | everyone up-dated.Promise!
> | I hope you enjoy re-viewing the files of her especially as she
> | represents a very serious attempt at creating honest-to-goodness
> | cruising capability/endurance within a shape very much to my liking
> | and she is,of course,from the board of our hero,Philip C.Bolger who so
> | generously made me an offer I just couldn't refuse.(Thank you, Phil!)
> | Plans for this most enchanting design are available from the
> | offices of PCB & Friends Inc.
> | Sincerely,
> | Peter Lenihan,head over heals for this design and no,LESTAT will not
> | be relegated to the role of dinghy(she really deserves a good
> | home!),from the chilly shores of the St.Lawrence......
> |
> |
> |
> | Bolger rules!!!
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> Message: 16
> Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 23:09:22 -0600
> From: "Chuck Leinweber" <chuck@...>
> Subject: Re: Re: WINDERMERE revealed...at last!
>
> What? No Viking funeral?
>
> Chuck
> And finally,if I do this right,WINDERMERE should out-live me by a
> long shot.A truly wonderful way to ease into retirement and
> ultimately out of this life.Heeee! Haaaa!
> Continued Success with FIREFLY!
>
> Sincerely,
> Peter Lenihan,on the threshold of a dream come true,despite the snow
> on the shores of the St.Lawrence...........
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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> Message: 17
> Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 06:13:36 -0000
> From: "vexatious2001" <cadbury@...>
> Subject: Re: WINDERMERE revealed...at last!
>
> ---
>
> > of anchoring to take fukk advantage of the autonomy this boat offers
> > from expensive marinas etc......
>
> I am really sorry but i can just NOT resist the temptation
> to bring up the "shi__ing ballast" post again!
>
> P.S. I really like the design although it is WAY more
> project than I think I will ever tackle (and finish).
>
> Keep us advised of progress!
>
> Max
>
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> Message: 18
> Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 12:21:01 -0000
> From: "ellengaestboatbuildingcom" <ellengaest@...>
> Subject: Re: WINDERMERE revealed...at last!
>
> Hello Don,
> The fillet you refer to is out of plywood with foam to fill in
> the dead space.Yes,it is used to reduce the slap/pounding of wave
> action.The boxkeel in this boat(unlike SNEAKEASY?) is partially used
> to hold/store key elements of the boat eg;batteries,anchor.
> Her "ballast" comes from a thick bottom and shoe assembly along
> with the weight of the batteries(1824lbs).Of course,the freshwater
> holding tanks(835lbs) and fuel capacity(1230lbs) is not to be ignored
> and contribute positively to her overall stability.
> The"tanks" you refer to are actually part of the battery
> pack.All the tanks are situated bellow the cabin floor but not in the
> boxkeel.
> Glad to hear that you think she is good looking! Bolger is
> such a crafty designer........!
> Sincerely,
> Peter Lenihan
>
> --- In bolger@y..., "dbaldnz" <dbaldnz@y...> wrote:
> > Peter, what a hell of a fine looking craft.
> > A couple of points of interest to me- seems to be a Sneakeasy type
> > hull, with the corner filled in, presumably to cut out slap? Is
> the
> > fill in piece foam or ply? Does she have water ballast...looks
> like
> > tanks down the keel?
> > No more anchoring to beat the tides!
> > DonB
> >
> > --- In bolger@y..., "ellengaestboatbuildingcom" <ellengaest@b...>
> > wrote:
> > > Bolgerados,
> > > I have just up-loaded two files to the Bolger2 group
> > illustrating
> > > the Bolger design WINDERMERE.
> > > She will be my future retirement home and all-around
> > cruiser.As
> > > the building of her progresses,I'll be posting pictures and
> keeping
> > > everyone up-dated.Promise!
> > > I hope you enjoy re-viewing the files of her especially as
> she
> > > represents a very serious attempt at creating honest-to-goodness
> > > cruising capability/endurance within a shape very much to my
> liking
> > > and she is,of course,from the board of our hero,Philip C.Bolger
> who
> > so
> > > generously made me an offer I just couldn't refuse.(Thank you,
> > Phil!)
> > > Plans for this most enchanting design are available from the
> > > offices of PCB & Friends Inc.
> > > Sincerely,
> > > Peter Lenihan,head over heals for this design and no,LESTAT will
> > not
> > > be relegated to the role of dinghy(she really deserves a good
> > > home!),from the chilly shores of the St.Lawrence......
>
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> Message: 19
> Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 12:31:39 -0000
> From: "ellengaestboatbuildingcom" <ellengaest@...>
> Subject: Re: WINDERMERE revealed...at last!
>
> Morning John,
> One of the advantages of this type of construction is that one
> can proceed with the building of many components(bulkeads etc) before
> actual setup.This will allow me to begin in a space no bigger then a
> garage.If things move along smartly,summer time should see me
> assembling the whole works together.In fact,Bolger recommends
> starting with the bulkheads to work up effecient building habits then
> moving on to the side-panels and finally the bottom.The bottom is
> meant to be built upside down as a unit and virtually finished before
> roll-over.Afterward,bulkheads are installed using temporary braces
> followed by"wrapping around" the pre-assembled side panels.
> Yes that is a small aft deck which can be expanded by lowering an
> (optional) panel aft.The skiffs overhead are lowered and retrieved
> through an ingenius davit setup included on the plans from Bolger.Our
> hero thinks of everything!
> Sincerely,
> Peter Lenihan,wishing he lived in the sunny sunny south!
>
> --- In bolger@y..., "John Bell" <jmbell@m...> wrote:
> > A sweet little cruiser you have there. Looks like quite project
> ahead of
> > you. Hope you can secure some heated building space so you can at
> least make
> > progress in the winter time.
> >
> > Is that a deck aft above the motors? How are you supposed to launch
> (and
> > retrieve) the skiff?
> >
> > JB
>
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> Message: 20
> Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 12:42:25 -0000
> From: "ellengaestboatbuildingcom" <ellengaest@...>
> Subject: Re: WINDERMERE revealed...at last!
>
> Ahh Chuck,
> While this may be a wee bit premature considering the boat ain't
> even built yet,but I can easily see the enviro-police going ballastic
> when the fuel,batteries and holdingtank explode in one mighty toxic
> blast..........besides,I'm Irish!
> I'd much rather have me friends gathered around the boat for a
> good soaking in the finest beverages available from the"licker"store
> followed by a non too serious parade over to the as yet built PHILIP
> C.BOLGER MUSEUM of NAUTICAL HISTORICS were she(the boat) can be
> donated!
> Sincerely,
> Peter Lenihan,feeling the pull of my Celtic ancestors over the
> ether,stuck here at work...burp......it's tough....and
> lonely....burp.....but I canna stay home!
>
> --- In bolger@y..., "Chuck Leinweber" <chuck@d...> wrote:
> > What? No Viking funeral?
> >
> > Chuck
> > And finally,if I do this right,WINDERMERE should out-live me
> by a
> > long shot.A truly wonderful way to ease into retirement and
> > ultimately out of this life.Heeee! Haaaa!
> > Continued Success with FIREFLY!
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Peter Lenihan,on the threshold of a dream come true,despite the
> snow
> > on the shores of the St.Lawrence...........
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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> Message: 21
> Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 13:42:18 -0000
> From: "ellengaestboatbuildingcom" <ellengaest@...>
> Subject: Re: WINDERMERE revealed...at last!
>
> Max,
> Yes,WINDERMERE has the DLD toilette feature and this is just as
> well since most composting heads would require a considerable amount
> of electricity to opperate properly in my generally cooler climate.
> The holding tank is not a ballast feature.......
>
> Sincerely,
> Peter Lenihan,still wondering about the usefullness of Zebra mussels
> for serious chomping/recycling of waste element.....
>
> --- In bolger@y..., "vexatious2001" <cadbury@s...> wrote:
> > I am really sorry but i can just NOT resist the temptation
> > to bring up the "shi__ing ballast" post again!
> >
> > P.S. I really like the design although it is WAY more
> > project than I think I will ever tackle (and finish).
> >
> > Keep us advised of progress!
> >
> > Max
>
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>
> Message: 22
> Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 13:50:15 -0000
> From: "pvanderwaart" <pvanderwaart@...>
> Subject: Re: Gunter Rig
>
> > PCB is certainly no fan of the gunter rig -- at least
> > according to "103 Small Rigs."
>
> Bolger usually uses the Solent Lug rig instead of the gunter. The
> difference is that there is no attachment of the heel of the yard to
> the mast. The tradeoff is that the gunter may bind and be difficult
> to raise or lower, whereas the Solent Lug may blow off downwind and
> be hard to control.
>
> His preference extends even to quite large boats such as the Wolf
> Trap 30 about which he said that the yard was unpopular "for reasons
> easy to imagine." Very easy!
>
> PHV
>
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> Message: 23
> Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 15:58:47 -0000
> From: "jhbjap" <boatbuilding@...>
> Subject: Re: Wyoming
>
> Good question! I'm not sure we would need 3 weeks but we envision
> doing a lot of idling along staying put for weeks at a time. We
> would like to head out into the FL Keys or backwaters of LA,
> Tombigbee, St. Lawrence and the Great Lakes. Many of the river
> travels will not include pump out stations close together. We'd also
> like the ability just to relax and do nothing, maybe explore a whole
> area, and Murphy's Law dictates it'll be somewhere that doesn't have
> a pump out station or fresh water.
>
> Being able to hide away for 2 weeks at a time is part of our dream.
>
> While less than 2 weeks is realistic, 3 weeks of self containment is
> just a comfort zone.
>
> Jeff
>
> --- In bolger@y..., "John Bell" <jmbell@m...> wrote:
> > I'm curious about the need for three weeks of self-sufficiency in
> your
> > proposed cruise. It's not like you are going to be far from
> civilization
> > anywhere on the ICW or any of the rivers draining the central US.
> What's
> > driving that requirement?
> >
> > Glad to see you are interested in Wyoh again. Keep us posted.
> >
> > JB
> >
> >
>
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> Message: 24
> Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 17:01:26 -0000
> From: "jhbjap" <boatbuilding@...>
> Subject: Wyoming
>
> After a week of serious viewing the new Wyo plans, I am impressed
> with the ease at which a very large boat can be built.
>
> Almost no seam taping, fillets only to stop water from standing in
> corners. Each bulkhead, seam, etc. is backed up with 1 1/2" square
> frames or larger.
>
> With a bit of planning, all parts can be cut, epoxy and/or glassed as
> need before assembly using a small garage. Assembly could literally
> be done in a few full days of work with a couple strong helpers. (I
> have 5 sons, teenagers and older.) After assembly, jack up one side
> at a time just enough to finish the chines and bottom seams.
>
> Still, a large project, but I think she can be assembled in 500
> hours. Another 500 hours or more for fit out and finish work.
>
> That's the real genius of Mr. Bolger! Ya just gotta love it!
>
> Jeff
>
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