Re:Accommodations: Tennessee v. Idaho
The plans for the Dakota I'm building came with a sheet of four
alternate arrangement plans in addition to the one "streetcar style"
accommodation which was the basis for my choosing this plan. It is
similar to Idaho but 7 feet longer. The fact that so many options were
presented including just using the hull as a big skiff with no cabin at
all, indicates to me that you can play around with the cabins on these
designs quite a bit to suit your needs (within limits of weight and balance).
I built the cabin with headroom varying from 6'1" to 6'3". I might have
been able to get another inch or so out of the width of a 4' sheet of
cabin side material if that had been a requirement for me. If not, it
would have been fairly simple to splice a narrow strip at the top.
You can always sketch any modification you are contemplating and fax it
to PCB. If you are a paying customer, you will get prompt feedback.
Vince Chew
alternate arrangement plans in addition to the one "streetcar style"
accommodation which was the basis for my choosing this plan. It is
similar to Idaho but 7 feet longer. The fact that so many options were
presented including just using the hull as a big skiff with no cabin at
all, indicates to me that you can play around with the cabins on these
designs quite a bit to suit your needs (within limits of weight and balance).
I built the cabin with headroom varying from 6'1" to 6'3". I might have
been able to get another inch or so out of the width of a 4' sheet of
cabin side material if that had been a requirement for me. If not, it
would have been fairly simple to splice a narrow strip at the top.
You can always sketch any modification you are contemplating and fax it
to PCB. If you are a paying customer, you will get prompt feedback.
Vince Chew
I don't think that rocker makes her less able to carry
a load. It all a matter of what you are talking
about. Loading any boat "too much" will slow her
down. She is a displacement craft, so I would imagine
that she could be less succeptible to performance
degradation than overloading a boat you actually have
to lift out of the water any time you want to move her
forward, like the planning sharpies. If you run the
planning sharpies as displacemnet boats, they will
pull a lot of lake behind the submerged transom.
Given the same footprint, additional inches of
sumbmersion will yield identical displacements, after
the waterline embraces the whole boat. The only
factor that sounds like what yo are talking about is
that a rockered boat will have less dipalcement than a
flat bottomed one, but that is more a question of what
her ideal displacement will be than what happens at
the margin when she is "overloaded".
Its a big enough boat for what you are contemplating,
though the layout inside is spartan. To see what can
be done with her look at some of the Australian ones
that have been built.
At the same time, even a 20 foot Houseboat will have
far more useable space and headroom, not to mention a
deck.
loading her too much would slow her down. Any
idea how much her <BR>
performance would be degraded by the weight of four
adults, a June <BR>
Bug, and other gear? For my purposes, the
ability to cruise at 10 <BR>
knots with modest power is enough -- I don't need to
go faster.<BR>
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a load. It all a matter of what you are talking
about. Loading any boat "too much" will slow her
down. She is a displacement craft, so I would imagine
that she could be less succeptible to performance
degradation than overloading a boat you actually have
to lift out of the water any time you want to move her
forward, like the planning sharpies. If you run the
planning sharpies as displacemnet boats, they will
pull a lot of lake behind the submerged transom.
Given the same footprint, additional inches of
sumbmersion will yield identical displacements, after
the waterline embraces the whole boat. The only
factor that sounds like what yo are talking about is
that a rockered boat will have less dipalcement than a
flat bottomed one, but that is more a question of what
her ideal displacement will be than what happens at
the margin when she is "overloaded".
Its a big enough boat for what you are contemplating,
though the layout inside is spartan. To see what can
be done with her look at some of the Australian ones
that have been built.
At the same time, even a 20 foot Houseboat will have
far more useable space and headroom, not to mention a
deck.
>ever, I read somewhere that, because of the rocker inthe hull, <BR>
loading her too much would slow her down. Any
idea how much her <BR>
performance would be degraded by the weight of four
adults, a June <BR>
Bug, and other gear? For my purposes, the
ability to cruise at 10 <BR>
knots with modest power is enough -- I don't need to
go faster.<BR>
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I've been thinking more about the boat I'd like to have for cruising
on the Potomac River, and I'm leaning toward Tennessee or Idaho.
After searching through prior posts and other material on the web, I
can't seem to find detailed info about the accommodations on either
boat, so I thought I'd try asking here rather than bothering PCB&F.
Here's what I have in mind as minimum accommodations.
1. A area 5-6 feet long (fore to aft) with standing headroom for
tall people (I'm 6-4.).
2. Additional cabin space with sitting headroom for a double berth.
3. Enough cockpit space (6-feet aft of the cabin?) with a hard
top, to double as a shaded "porch" and sleeping area (with roll-down
tent sides for bad weather.
4. Room up top to carry a 14-foot skiff (June Bug?) for rowing and
sailing.
Any comments re the suitability of the accommodations (as designed,
or with modifications) on Tennessee or Idaho would be appreciated.
One additional question. Tennessee is appealing -- I gather that
she's lighter, a bit wider, a bit shorter, and easier to build.
However, I read somewhere that, because of the rocker in the hull,
loading her too much would slow her down. Any idea how much her
performance would be degraded by the weight of four adults, a June
Bug, and other gear? For my purposes, the ability to cruise at 10
knots with modest power is enough -- I don't need to go faster.
Thanks!
Steve Paskey
Washington, DC
on the Potomac River, and I'm leaning toward Tennessee or Idaho.
After searching through prior posts and other material on the web, I
can't seem to find detailed info about the accommodations on either
boat, so I thought I'd try asking here rather than bothering PCB&F.
Here's what I have in mind as minimum accommodations.
1. A area 5-6 feet long (fore to aft) with standing headroom for
tall people (I'm 6-4.).
2. Additional cabin space with sitting headroom for a double berth.
3. Enough cockpit space (6-feet aft of the cabin?) with a hard
top, to double as a shaded "porch" and sleeping area (with roll-down
tent sides for bad weather.
4. Room up top to carry a 14-foot skiff (June Bug?) for rowing and
sailing.
Any comments re the suitability of the accommodations (as designed,
or with modifications) on Tennessee or Idaho would be appreciated.
One additional question. Tennessee is appealing -- I gather that
she's lighter, a bit wider, a bit shorter, and easier to build.
However, I read somewhere that, because of the rocker in the hull,
loading her too much would slow her down. Any idea how much her
performance would be degraded by the weight of four adults, a June
Bug, and other gear? For my purposes, the ability to cruise at 10
knots with modest power is enough -- I don't need to go faster.
Thanks!
Steve Paskey
Washington, DC