Re: Wyoming: Damn you, Bruce Hallman!
--- In bolger@y..., David Ryan <david@c...> wrote:
rudder with the fill and flow of the shifting/gusting wind in the
sails; and the accelerations & heel of the boat. After a while it
becomes like a dance, with total focus, but no real thought.
Zen like, "being one with the boat".
Never the less, if what one wants is a live aboard, the Wyoming would
be very nice. I also like the new Windermere! Though my mind keeps
going back to the Illinois. Did anybody else notice that PCB
mentioned that he is also working on several variations in the
Champlain class, both with alternate interior layouts and with
stretches. I can't wait!
> only sounds I hear when I look at that picture is theWhat I love most is that *feel* of delicately playing the sheets &
> wind in the sails and the hull slicing through the water.
rudder with the fill and flow of the shifting/gusting wind in the
sails; and the accelerations & heel of the boat. After a while it
becomes like a dance, with total focus, but no real thought.
Zen like, "being one with the boat".
Never the less, if what one wants is a live aboard, the Wyoming would
be very nice. I also like the new Windermere! Though my mind keeps
going back to the Illinois. Did anybody else notice that PCB
mentioned that he is also working on several variations in the
Champlain class, both with alternate interior layouts and with
stretches. I can't wait!
On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, sneakeasy2000 wrote:
And more headroom, too.
> Stay the course David!!! Don't be enticed!! Remember the BlackA Catalina 22 has substantially more interior room than a Black Skimmer.
> Skimmer has "full standing headroom" only on deck!! Wyo has it
> Everywhere!! Steve Bosquette, who has a permanent crick in the back
> from 5 seasons in Catalins 22, 60% of which was motoring!!!!!
And more headroom, too.
Stay the course David!!! Don't be enticed!! Remember the Black
Skimmer has "full standing headroom" only on deck!! Wyo has it
Everywhere!!
Steve Bosquette, who has a permanent crick in the back from 5 seasons
in Catalins 22, 60% of which was motoring!!!!!
Skimmer has "full standing headroom" only on deck!! Wyo has it
Everywhere!!
Steve Bosquette, who has a permanent crick in the back from 5 seasons
in Catalins 22, 60% of which was motoring!!!!!
--- In bolger@y..., David Ryan <david@c...> wrote:
> JB --
>
> I've been telling myself this over and over -- and picturing the
Wyo
> skimming across the Great South Bay at 15 knots, barely making a
> sound or a ripple. Makes a pretty picture, doesn't it.
>
> But even if it is "just as silent as sailing" it's a different kind
of silence.
>
> I'll keep working on it. ;-)
>
> YIBB,
>
> David
>
>
> >You won't hear the motor at all at the helm or in the bow cockpit
of
> >Wyo either. Just as silent as sailing. (Assuming you go four
stroke.)
> >
> >JB
> >
> >--- In bolger@y..., David Ryan <david@c...> wrote:
> >> FBBB --
> >>
> >> Well I was nearly ready to do it, I really was. Damn the
economy!
> >> Damn 9/11! Damn the neighbors! Damn my bank balance! There's
just
> >> enough money left to buy the ply and epoxy and my driveway just
> >long
> >> enough to lay her up.
> >>
> >> Then Bruce post that old "Cruising the Black Skimmer" article,
and
> >> one picture in particular shatters my dreams of powerboat mania
(or
> >> at least puts a severe kink in them.)
> >>
> >>http://www.hallman.org/bolger/BlackSkimmer/photo2_sm.jpg
> >>
> >> More than anything what I notice about that picture is the
motor is
> >> tipped up; the only sounds I hear when I look at that picture is
> >the
> >> wind in the sails and the hull slicing through the water.
> >>
> >> Of course, I used to picture myself out in the deep blue sea,
going
> >> from Hawaii to Tahiti or some such, and I've readily given that
up
> >to
> >> exchange dreaming for doing. I may yet dispense with the sails.
> >>
> >> YIBB,
> >>
> >> David
> >>
> >> C.E.P.
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Why not move the pre-assembled portion of the craft to the lower level, and
top it with a sun deck with a removable cover (otherwise known as dining fly)?
BTW, the "steering wheel" in the photograph appears to be a brake wheel
from a 1920's vintage railroad car.
At 1/10/02 03:05 PM, you wrote:
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top it with a sun deck with a removable cover (otherwise known as dining fly)?
BTW, the "steering wheel" in the photograph appears to be a brake wheel
from a 1920's vintage railroad car.
At 1/10/02 03:05 PM, you wrote:
>Too bad the "Redneck Boat" is so tall. Might have worked for me insteadGeren W. Mortensen, Jr.
>of the Wyo. I'm sure the wife would love it too! The cost would be a lot
>lower too! Saves more money for beer and pizza on the cruise.
>
><Grin>
>
>Jeff
>
>
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Too bad the "Redneck Boat" is so tall. Might have worked for me instead of the Wyo. I'm sure the wife would love it too! The cost would be a lot lower too! Saves more money for beer and pizza on the cruise.
<Grin>
Jeff
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Jeff
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You've nailed it exactly -- the boat you want vs. the the boat you
need; the boat you can dream about vs. the boat you can have.
The "new and improved" Wyoming makes nearly perfect sense for me, my
family and the places we want to go (assuming I "need" any sort of
boat at all.) That's why I'm pissed at Bruce for posting that
picture! ;-)
The very idea that I might have been dreaming of a powerboat all
these years is still pretty new. Might fit me like a finely tailored
suit, but the fabric is still stiff.
Still totally psyched about your Wyo!
David
134 West 26th St. 12th Floor
New York, New York 10001
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need; the boat you can dream about vs. the boat you can have.
The "new and improved" Wyoming makes nearly perfect sense for me, my
family and the places we want to go (assuming I "need" any sort of
boat at all.) That's why I'm pissed at Bruce for posting that
picture! ;-)
The very idea that I might have been dreaming of a powerboat all
these years is still pretty new. Might fit me like a finely tailored
suit, but the fabric is still stiff.
Still totally psyched about your Wyo!
David
>I can relate to the silence of sailing, ya just gotta love it.C.E.P.
>
>My reason for thinking power is very simple. I need to run the
>canals. I want to be able to duck under bridges, low hanging trees,
>and as a recent revelation, speed. Not big speed, but enough to run
>up river, fight currents, and duck out into open water on a
>beautiful day and duck back in time for supper.
>
>On our planned route, everything I've read says it's 90% power, 10%
>sail. Unless I built a boat capable of open water, the sails will
>be see very little action compared to the motor. Why not just motor
>and save the sail cost.
>
>My needs are rather specific. Compromise, compromise, compromise,
>that's boating in it's simplist terms.
>
>Jeff
>
>
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>
>
>
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It occurred to me that the cabin of the Cabin Clam Skiff (with the
partly closed roof) is an add-on. That is, it is not structural,
and the boat does not *need* it. Therefore, if you want a Birdwatcher-
style roof, just do it. If you want a thatched one, no problem. Just
watch the weight.
Sakari Aaltonen
partly closed roof) is an add-on. That is, it is not structural,
and the boat does not *need* it. Therefore, if you want a Birdwatcher-
style roof, just do it. If you want a thatched one, no problem. Just
watch the weight.
Sakari Aaltonen
Another thing about those pictures is that they show
how beautiful a Bolger sharpie used to be. I can
remember why I ordered the plans for BS. I never
built them, choosing a multi instead.
I'm as convinced of the benifits of boxes as the next
of us, but BS sure is nice to look at.
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how beautiful a Bolger sharpie used to be. I can
remember why I ordered the plans for BS. I never
built them, choosing a multi instead.
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What kind of dinghy, sailboat, motor boat, row boat would be ideal given the need to lift it off the roof? Anyone know? I just finishing a Bolger Nymph that I figured would work okay but I'm concerned about her ability to be stable and load carrying to be used as cruising Dinghy.
PB&F shows a June Bug. A bit heavy to get off the roof I would think. Ideas?
If I actually do the Wyo, and it's looking GOOD, and I actually get to go on our Great Circle Route cruise, and....
Well anyway, I'd love to meet all fellow boat builders where ever.
Jeff
PB&F shows a June Bug. A bit heavy to get off the roof I would think. Ideas?
If I actually do the Wyo, and it's looking GOOD, and I actually get to go on our Great Circle Route cruise, and....
Well anyway, I'd love to meet all fellow boat builders where ever.
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: jmbell1
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 10:00 AM
Subject: [bolger] Re: Wyoming: Damn you, Bruce Hallman!
The cabin top of Wyoh is plenty big enough for you carry a 10-16'
sailboat so you can "get the sensation" you so crave. Best of both
worlds, no?
JB who is jealous of all you who have the space and the bank balance
to build Wyoh. Somebody please invite me aboard when you get it done?
--- In bolger@y..., David Ryan <david@c...> wrote:
> JB --
>
> I've been telling myself this over and over -- and picturing the
Wyo
> skimming across the Great South Bay at 15 knots, barely making a
> sound or a ripple. Makes a pretty picture, doesn't it.
>
> But even if it is "just as silent as sailing" it's a different kind
of silence.
>
> I'll keep working on it. ;-)
>
> YIBB,
>
> David
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I can relate to the silence of sailing, ya just gotta love it.
My reason for thinking power is very simple. I need to run the canals. I want to be able to duck under bridges, low hanging trees, and as a recent revelation, speed. Not big speed, but enough to run up river, fight currents, and duck out into open water on a beautiful day and duck back in time for supper.
On our planned route, everything I've read says it's 90% power, 10% sail. Unless I built a boat capable of open water, the sails will be see very little action compared to the motor. Why not just motor and save the sail cost.
My needs are rather specific. Compromise, compromise, compromise, that's boating in it's simplist terms.
Jeff
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My reason for thinking power is very simple. I need to run the canals. I want to be able to duck under bridges, low hanging trees, and as a recent revelation, speed. Not big speed, but enough to run up river, fight currents, and duck out into open water on a beautiful day and duck back in time for supper.
On our planned route, everything I've read says it's 90% power, 10% sail. Unless I built a boat capable of open water, the sails will be see very little action compared to the motor. Why not just motor and save the sail cost.
My needs are rather specific. Compromise, compromise, compromise, that's boating in it's simplist terms.
Jeff
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The cabin top of Wyoh is plenty big enough for you carry a 10-16'
sailboat so you can "get the sensation" you so crave. Best of both
worlds, no?
JB who is jealous of all you who have the space and the bank balance
to build Wyoh. Somebody please invite me aboard when you get it done?
sailboat so you can "get the sensation" you so crave. Best of both
worlds, no?
JB who is jealous of all you who have the space and the bank balance
to build Wyoh. Somebody please invite me aboard when you get it done?
--- In bolger@y..., David Ryan <david@c...> wrote:
> JB --
>
> I've been telling myself this over and over -- and picturing the
Wyo
> skimming across the Great South Bay at 15 knots, barely making a
> sound or a ripple. Makes a pretty picture, doesn't it.
>
> But even if it is "just as silent as sailing" it's a different kind
of silence.
>
> I'll keep working on it. ;-)
>
> YIBB,
>
> David
JB --
I've been telling myself this over and over -- and picturing the Wyo
skimming across the Great South Bay at 15 knots, barely making a
sound or a ripple. Makes a pretty picture, doesn't it.
But even if it is "just as silent as sailing" it's a different kind of silence.
I'll keep working on it. ;-)
YIBB,
David
134 West 26th St. 12th Floor
New York, New York 10001
http://www.crumblingempire.com
(212) 247-0296
I've been telling myself this over and over -- and picturing the Wyo
skimming across the Great South Bay at 15 knots, barely making a
sound or a ripple. Makes a pretty picture, doesn't it.
But even if it is "just as silent as sailing" it's a different kind of silence.
I'll keep working on it. ;-)
YIBB,
David
>You won't hear the motor at all at the helm or in the bow cockpit ofC.E.P.
>Wyo either. Just as silent as sailing. (Assuming you go four stroke.)
>
>JB
>
>--- In bolger@y..., David Ryan <david@c...> wrote:
>> FBBB --
>>
>> Well I was nearly ready to do it, I really was. Damn the economy!
>> Damn 9/11! Damn the neighbors! Damn my bank balance! There's just
>> enough money left to buy the ply and epoxy and my driveway just
>long
>> enough to lay her up.
>>
>> Then Bruce post that old "Cruising the Black Skimmer" article, and
>> one picture in particular shatters my dreams of powerboat mania (or
>> at least puts a severe kink in them.)
>>
>>http://www.hallman.org/bolger/BlackSkimmer/photo2_sm.jpg
>>
>> More than anything what I notice about that picture is the motor is
>> tipped up; the only sounds I hear when I look at that picture is
>the
>> wind in the sails and the hull slicing through the water.
>>
>> Of course, I used to picture myself out in the deep blue sea, going
>> from Hawaii to Tahiti or some such, and I've readily given that up
>to
>> exchange dreaming for doing. I may yet dispense with the sails.
>>
>> YIBB,
>>
>> David
>>
>> C.E.P.
>> 134 West 26th St. 12th Floor
>> New York, New York 10001
>>http://www.crumblingempire.com
>> (212) 247-0296
>
>
>
>Bolger rules!!!
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>- pls take "personals" off-list, stay on topic, and punctuate
>- add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts, snip all you like
>- To order plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester,
>MA, 01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
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134 West 26th St. 12th Floor
New York, New York 10001
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You won't hear the motor at all at the helm or in the bow cockpit of
Wyo either. Just as silent as sailing. (Assuming you go four stroke.)
JB
Wyo either. Just as silent as sailing. (Assuming you go four stroke.)
JB
--- In bolger@y..., David Ryan <david@c...> wrote:
> FBBB --
>
> Well I was nearly ready to do it, I really was. Damn the economy!
> Damn 9/11! Damn the neighbors! Damn my bank balance! There's just
> enough money left to buy the ply and epoxy and my driveway just
long
> enough to lay her up.
>
> Then Bruce post that old "Cruising the Black Skimmer" article, and
> one picture in particular shatters my dreams of powerboat mania (or
> at least puts a severe kink in them.)
>
>http://www.hallman.org/bolger/BlackSkimmer/photo2_sm.jpg
>
> More than anything what I notice about that picture is the motor is
> tipped up; the only sounds I hear when I look at that picture is
the
> wind in the sails and the hull slicing through the water.
>
> Of course, I used to picture myself out in the deep blue sea, going
> from Hawaii to Tahiti or some such, and I've readily given that up
to
> exchange dreaming for doing. I may yet dispense with the sails.
>
> YIBB,
>
> David
>
> C.E.P.
> 134 West 26th St. 12th Floor
> New York, New York 10001
>http://www.crumblingempire.com
> (212) 247-0296
FBBB --
Well I was nearly ready to do it, I really was. Damn the economy!
Damn 9/11! Damn the neighbors! Damn my bank balance! There's just
enough money left to buy the ply and epoxy and my driveway just long
enough to lay her up.
Then Bruce post that old "Cruising the Black Skimmer" article, and
one picture in particular shatters my dreams of powerboat mania (or
at least puts a severe kink in them.)
http://www.hallman.org/bolger/BlackSkimmer/photo2_sm.jpg
More than anything what I notice about that picture is the motor is
tipped up; the only sounds I hear when I look at that picture is the
wind in the sails and the hull slicing through the water.
Of course, I used to picture myself out in the deep blue sea, going
from Hawaii to Tahiti or some such, and I've readily given that up to
exchange dreaming for doing. I may yet dispense with the sails.
YIBB,
David
C.E.P.
134 West 26th St. 12th Floor
New York, New York 10001
http://www.crumblingempire.com
(212) 247-0296
Well I was nearly ready to do it, I really was. Damn the economy!
Damn 9/11! Damn the neighbors! Damn my bank balance! There's just
enough money left to buy the ply and epoxy and my driveway just long
enough to lay her up.
Then Bruce post that old "Cruising the Black Skimmer" article, and
one picture in particular shatters my dreams of powerboat mania (or
at least puts a severe kink in them.)
http://www.hallman.org/bolger/BlackSkimmer/photo2_sm.jpg
More than anything what I notice about that picture is the motor is
tipped up; the only sounds I hear when I look at that picture is the
wind in the sails and the hull slicing through the water.
Of course, I used to picture myself out in the deep blue sea, going
from Hawaii to Tahiti or some such, and I've readily given that up to
exchange dreaming for doing. I may yet dispense with the sails.
YIBB,
David
C.E.P.
134 West 26th St. 12th Floor
New York, New York 10001
http://www.crumblingempire.com
(212) 247-0296