Re: Micro sails
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "dawesnav" <dawesnav@...> wrote:
ontop of cinder blocks and melt the lead in the pan. This is
especially effective if you have a neighbor who is a welder:-)
You already have them and I assume they are the type called for.
There are several low cost manuals available to assist you.
I would also give due consideration to building the spars as shown
in the plans and using sail track. But then my mentor and Micro
guru, Peter Lenihan some time ago posted a lengthy rant about the
embarrasement concerning sails lashed to the mast.
I would also confer with my daughter if I were you;-)
Nels
>An option to avoid pouring is to have a steel pan welded up and set
> Trying to balance cost
> with
> not really wanting to work much with lead (funny how we have
> changed.
> I remember chain sawing it years ago and playing with it as a kid)
ontop of cinder blocks and melt the lead in the pan. This is
especially effective if you have a neighbor who is a welder:-)
>My first inclination would be to attempt to finish the sails myself.
> More importantly, it only came with homemade sails, not finished.
You already have them and I assume they are the type called for.
There are several low cost manuals available to assist you.
I would also give due consideration to building the spars as shown
in the plans and using sail track. But then my mentor and Micro
guru, Peter Lenihan some time ago posted a lengthy rant about the
embarrasement concerning sails lashed to the mast.
I would also confer with my daughter if I were you;-)
Nels
Bruce,
I don't have any suggestions, but I would like to see a picture of
the boat. I was thinking about buying it, but you were a bit more
decisive.
Congratulations.
Jim
I don't have any suggestions, but I would like to see a picture of
the boat. I was thinking about buying it, but you were a bit more
decisive.
Congratulations.
Jim
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "dawesnav" <dawesnav@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all. First post since buying micro.
> I bought it in Canada. It is extremely well built. I have to do
> the
> ballast keel as the builder wanted to use leeboards and no ballast
> on
> the canals of Ottowa. I want to sail off Newport Rhode Island so
> need
> a keel for coastal safety.
> Any hints as to which way to go with cast keel VS. epoxying ingots
> of
> lead into the shape greatly appreciated. Trying to balance cost
> with
> not really wanting to work much with lead (funny how we have
> changed.
> I remember chain sawing it years ago and playing with it as a kid)
>
> More importantly, it only came with homemade sails, not finished.
> When I took them into the sailmaker to finish them he suggested
> that,
> as I hadn't built the spars yet, why not look at local one design
> sails and see what sort of jibs would fly well as a sprit sail, and
> make the spars to length. Locally, we have Shields, Etchells,
J24s,
> Ensigns etc. He made the point that a sprit sail was the same
shape
> as a jib and these sails are cheap as racers have no use for them
> after their shape goes.
>
> Only concern with jibs for sprits is that a jib is cut with some
> luff
> hollow to allow for forestay sag, whereas a free standing mast will
> have some bend/fall off.
>
> I wish to lash the sails to the masts, not attch to any kind of
> track
> also
>
> Anyone got any input here. I am resisting paying $1500 for a set
of
> sails when there are plenty of good ones in Newport. I think the
> idea of using existing sails is completely within the spirit that
> this boat embraces and very "Bolgeresque"!
>
> I am excited about this little boat. My daughter is 9 YO and can
> sail
> Optis so this is an easy stretch for her. And I run a large
charter
> yacht so the simplicity of this is appealing.
> Thanks,
> David.
>
> Any hints as to which way to go with cast keel VS. epoxying ingotsCast the lead.
http://community.webshots.com/photo/121069753/1121100644051159125qadyRL#
I did mine in a recycled steel paint bucket sitting on bricks fired
with BBQ charcoal. I used a ladle to move the molten lead, did not
try to pour or pipe it. Pretty easy to do, and cheaper than ingots
and epoxy.
Hi all. First post since buying micro.
I bought it in Canada. It is extremely well built. I have to do
the
ballast keel as the builder wanted to use leeboards and no ballast
on
the canals of Ottowa. I want to sail off Newport Rhode Island so
need
a keel for coastal safety.
Any hints as to which way to go with cast keel VS. epoxying ingots
of
lead into the shape greatly appreciated. Trying to balance cost
with
not really wanting to work much with lead (funny how we have
changed.
I remember chain sawing it years ago and playing with it as a kid)
More importantly, it only came with homemade sails, not finished.
When I took them into the sailmaker to finish them he suggested
that,
as I hadn't built the spars yet, why not look at local one design
sails and see what sort of jibs would fly well as a sprit sail, and
make the spars to length. Locally, we have Shields, Etchells, J24s,
Ensigns etc. He made the point that a sprit sail was the same shape
as a jib and these sails are cheap as racers have no use for them
after their shape goes.
Only concern with jibs for sprits is that a jib is cut with some
luff
hollow to allow for forestay sag, whereas a free standing mast will
have some bend/fall off.
I wish to lash the sails to the masts, not attch to any kind of
track
also
Anyone got any input here. I am resisting paying $1500 for a set of
sails when there are plenty of good ones in Newport. I think the
idea of using existing sails is completely within the spirit that
this boat embraces and very "Bolgeresque"!
I am excited about this little boat. My daughter is 9 YO and can
sail
Optis so this is an easy stretch for her. And I run a large charter
yacht so the simplicity of this is appealing.
Thanks,
David.
I bought it in Canada. It is extremely well built. I have to do
the
ballast keel as the builder wanted to use leeboards and no ballast
on
the canals of Ottowa. I want to sail off Newport Rhode Island so
need
a keel for coastal safety.
Any hints as to which way to go with cast keel VS. epoxying ingots
of
lead into the shape greatly appreciated. Trying to balance cost
with
not really wanting to work much with lead (funny how we have
changed.
I remember chain sawing it years ago and playing with it as a kid)
More importantly, it only came with homemade sails, not finished.
When I took them into the sailmaker to finish them he suggested
that,
as I hadn't built the spars yet, why not look at local one design
sails and see what sort of jibs would fly well as a sprit sail, and
make the spars to length. Locally, we have Shields, Etchells, J24s,
Ensigns etc. He made the point that a sprit sail was the same shape
as a jib and these sails are cheap as racers have no use for them
after their shape goes.
Only concern with jibs for sprits is that a jib is cut with some
luff
hollow to allow for forestay sag, whereas a free standing mast will
have some bend/fall off.
I wish to lash the sails to the masts, not attch to any kind of
track
also
Anyone got any input here. I am resisting paying $1500 for a set of
sails when there are plenty of good ones in Newport. I think the
idea of using existing sails is completely within the spirit that
this boat embraces and very "Bolgeresque"!
I am excited about this little boat. My daughter is 9 YO and can
sail
Optis so this is an easy stretch for her. And I run a large charter
yacht so the simplicity of this is appealing.
Thanks,
David.
Micro main and mizzen, already made, for less than the price for the kit from sailrite:
http://ultasail.com/bolger.htm
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That's a big sail - you need to have some shape, alright, to get some power
in that main. The Micro's already a short, stocky boat, and I think you
want some decent sails to punch her along through the chop.
Gregg
At 10:30 AM 8/27/1999 -0700, you wrote:
in that main. The Micro's already a short, stocky boat, and I think you
want some decent sails to punch her along through the chop.
Gregg
At 10:30 AM 8/27/1999 -0700, you wrote:
>Dear list - what would you think of making Micro sails from polytarp?
>And which shape should be given to main and mizzen? I understand that
>the mizzen should be almost flat, but what about the main? Best - Pippo
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I wouldn't anticipate any major problems using polytarp. Use lots of
fiberglass reinforced outdoor carpet tape.
I would put about 10% draft in, and used a curved sprit or a wishbone.
pippobianco@...wrote:
fiberglass reinforced outdoor carpet tape.
I would put about 10% draft in, and used a curved sprit or a wishbone.
pippobianco@...wrote:
> Dear list - what would you think of making Micro sails from polytarp?
> And which shape should be given to main and mizzen? I understand that
> the mizzen should be almost flat, but what about the main? Best - Pippo
>
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Dear list - what would you think of making Micro sails from polytarp?
And which shape should be given to main and mizzen? I understand that
the mizzen should be almost flat, but what about the main? Best - Pippo
And which shape should be given to main and mizzen? I understand that
the mizzen should be almost flat, but what about the main? Best - Pippo