Re: Puffer
>http://hallman.org/bolger/Puffer/Puffer.pngFor what it is worth, the surface area of the Puffer model works out
>http://hallman.org/bolger/Puffer/Puffer.fbm
to 2,369 SF.
If made of 1/4" steel, that would weigh 25,000 lbs. I have lost
track, is a dollar a pound a good estimate for steel fabrications?
If made of plywood, with 50% waste, that is 150 sheets.
A box 40' x 14' x14' has a surface area of 2,352 SF.
All in all, about equivalent amount of work as an Illinois, and in my
opinion, a much more capable boat.
> >Puffer is a SA (not PCB) concept design from PB&F. In my opinion,
> > Did PCB ever finish the Puffer design?
there is enough info in the MAIB article to build. Besides fitting
neatly in a standard double marina berth, the thing which I find
interesting about Puffer is that she uses tons of clean and grey water
as ballast in tanks, which means luxurious long hot showers, on a
boat!
http://hallman.org/bolger/Puffer/Puffer.png
http://hallman.org/bolger/Puffer/Puffer.fbm
I'll send a copy...
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Sam Glasscock <glasscocklanding@y...>
wrote:
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Sam Glasscock <glasscocklanding@y...>
wrote:
>
> I am again posting a request for help locating the
> artical from MIAB earlier this year describing the
> PB&F design Sitka Explorer--based on the Topaz hull
> but for more extended cruising. Any help would be
> appreciated--I have stupidly lost my copy. Thanks, Sam
I am again posting a request for help locating the
artical from MIAB earlier this year describing the
PB&F design Sitka Explorer--based on the Topaz hull
but for more extended cruising. Any help would be
appreciated--I have stupidly lost my copy. Thanks, Sam
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--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Ken Kongslie" <ken@k...> wrote:
mistaken, the Puffer design has
not been 'completed' by PB&F...
waiting for some builder to
express an interest, and to pay
the design costs to finish the
design. I think Puffer is a
really cool idea for a marina
livaboard design, much nicer than
the ubiquitous 'barge houses' you
see in so many marinas that are
falsely called 'boat houses'.
> Has anyone built the Puffer?I don't think so. If I am not
> ken
mistaken, the Puffer design has
not been 'completed' by PB&F...
waiting for some builder to
express an interest, and to pay
the design costs to finish the
design. I think Puffer is a
really cool idea for a marina
livaboard design, much nicer than
the ubiquitous 'barge houses' you
see in so many marinas that are
falsely called 'boat houses'.
Has anyone built the Puffer?
ken
ken
I had a conversation with Susanne yesterday about another design. (She
called me.)
I mentioned that the group was interested in Puffer. You could tell that
they'd really love to complete the design. Puffer is more than a marina
queen that can move but she's not a deep water cruiser.
I hope someone out there would like to build a Puffer and will pay to see
the design completed.
Phil Smith
called me.)
I mentioned that the group was interested in Puffer. You could tell that
they'd really love to complete the design. Puffer is more than a marina
queen that can move but she's not a deep water cruiser.
I hope someone out there would like to build a Puffer and will pay to see
the design completed.
Phil Smith
I can do this. e mail address off list. Clyde
brucehallman wrote:
brucehallman wrote:
> > from MAIB, which I believe describes Puffer?
>
> Somehow, I missed the issue with Puffer, I suspect my wife of
> screening my mail ;)
>
> I would like to get my hands on a photocopy of that article.
>
>
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Hi, Peter!
Saw the tantalizing cartoons on file, I was just trying to see the
accompanying text which seems to have disappeared along with some of the
Dead Sea scrolls...
David Romasco
-----Original Message-----
From: ellengaestboatbuildingcom [mailto:ellengaest@...]
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 8:42 AM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Re: Puffer (was: The Prolific Mr. B.)
Dave,
go here:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger2/files/BIG%20BOLGER%20BOATS/
Peter Lenihan
Saw the tantalizing cartoons on file, I was just trying to see the
accompanying text which seems to have disappeared along with some of the
Dead Sea scrolls...
David Romasco
-----Original Message-----
From: ellengaestboatbuildingcom [mailto:ellengaest@...]
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 8:42 AM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Re: Puffer (was: The Prolific Mr. B.)
Dave,
go here:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger2/files/BIG%20BOLGER%20BOATS/
Peter Lenihan
--- In bolger@y..., "David Romasco" <dromasco@g...> wrote:
> Porky,
>
> How about scanning that puppy and putting it in the files section?
> We've discussed this one on and off for a few months and seen the
> cartoons, but no one seems to have the MAIB text until now (did ALL
our
> wives intercept that issue?). We would be ever so
appreciative......
>
> David Romasco
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Dave,
go here:
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Peter Lenihan
go here:
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Peter Lenihan
--- In bolger@y..., "David Romasco" <dromasco@g...> wrote:
> Porky,
>
> How about scanning that puppy and putting it in the files section?
> We've discussed this one on and off for a few months and seen the
> cartoons, but no one seems to have the MAIB text until now (did ALL
our
> wives intercept that issue?). We would be ever so
appreciative......
>
> David Romasco
Porky,
How about scanning that puppy and putting it in the files section?
We've discussed this one on and off for a few months and seen the
cartoons, but no one seems to have the MAIB text until now (did ALL our
wives intercept that issue?). We would be ever so appreciative......
David Romasco
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From: porcupinefysh [mailto:porcupine@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 9:31 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Re: Puffer (was: The Prolific Mr. B.)
Gentlemen,
I happened to be entering Puffer's curriculum vitae into the Database
just now. The article, MAIB, Volume 16, Number 15, Pages 26-28, is in
front of me. What do you want me to do?
porky
How about scanning that puppy and putting it in the files section?
We've discussed this one on and off for a few months and seen the
cartoons, but no one seems to have the MAIB text until now (did ALL our
wives intercept that issue?). We would be ever so appreciative......
David Romasco
-----Original Message-----
From: porcupinefysh [mailto:porcupine@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 9:31 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Re: Puffer (was: The Prolific Mr. B.)
Gentlemen,
I happened to be entering Puffer's curriculum vitae into the Database
just now. The article, MAIB, Volume 16, Number 15, Pages 26-28, is in
front of me. What do you want me to do?
porky
--- In bolger@y..., "brucehallman" <brucehallman@y...> wrote:
>
> > from MAIB, which I believe describes Puffer?
>
> Somehow, I missed the issue with Puffer, I suspect my wife of
> screening my mail ;)
>
> I would like to get my hands on a photocopy of that article.
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--- In bolger@y..., Philip Smith <pbs@w...> wrote:
Don't think I'm not tempted, but I can't figure out from the pictures
where the mainmast goes. What kinda sailboat is this thing, anyway?
Now, who's going to build Super Brick so I can see *it* in three
dimensions?
;o)
porky
> Commission the design so we can all Oooh and ah at what a greatdesign it
> is. Then build it. Then throw a party and invite us to thelaunching.
>Phillip,
> I'd like to see a final design for Puffer....
Don't think I'm not tempted, but I can't figure out from the pictures
where the mainmast goes. What kinda sailboat is this thing, anyway?
Now, who's going to build Super Brick so I can see *it* in three
dimensions?
;o)
porky
At 02:30 AM 2/15/02 +0000, you wrote:
is. Then build it. Then throw a party and invite us to the launching.
I'd like to see a final design for Puffer.
Phil Smith
>Gentlemen,Commission the design so we can all Oooh and ah at what a great design it
>
>I happened to be entering Puffer's curriculum vitae into the Database
>just now. The article, MAIB, Volume 16, Number 15, Pages 26-28, is in
>front of me. What do you want me to do?
is. Then build it. Then throw a party and invite us to the launching.
I'd like to see a final design for Puffer.
Phil Smith
Gentlemen,
I happened to be entering Puffer's curriculum vitae into the Database
just now. The article, MAIB, Volume 16, Number 15, Pages 26-28, is in
front of me. What do you want me to do?
porky
I happened to be entering Puffer's curriculum vitae into the Database
just now. The article, MAIB, Volume 16, Number 15, Pages 26-28, is in
front of me. What do you want me to do?
porky
--- In bolger@y..., "brucehallman" <brucehallman@y...> wrote:
>
> > from MAIB, which I believe describes Puffer?
>
> Somehow, I missed the issue with Puffer, I suspect my wife of
> screening my mail ;)
>
> I would like to get my hands on a photocopy of that article.
> from MAIB, which I believe describes Puffer?Somehow, I missed the issue with Puffer, I suspect my wife of
screening my mail ;)
I would like to get my hands on a photocopy of that article.
Bruce, do you by chance have the follow-on article to the Illinois page
from MAIB, which I believe describes Puffer?
David Romasco
-----Original Message-----
From: brucehallman [mailto:brucehallman@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 12:53 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Re: The Prolific Mr. B.
from MAIB, which I believe describes Puffer?
David Romasco
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Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 12:53 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Re: The Prolific Mr. B.
--- In bolger@y..., "brucehector" <bruce_hector@h...> wrote:
> Are there any shetches or cartoons of Illinois?
I've posted an excerpt from the MAIB issue about Illinois at my
"Bolger Shrine" website athttp://www.hallman.org/bolger/
Bruce Hallman
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Splendid work, sir!
David Romasco
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--- In bolger@y..., "brucehector" <bruce_hector@h...> wrote:
> Are there any shetches or cartoons of Illinois?
I've posted an excerpt from the MAIB issue about Illinois at my
"Bolger Shrine" website athttp://www.hallman.org/bolger/
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--- In bolger@y..., "brucehector" <bruce_hector@h...> wrote:
"Bolger Shrine" website athttp://www.hallman.org/bolger/
Bruce Hallman
> Are there any shetches or cartoons of Illinois?I've posted an excerpt from the MAIB issue about Illinois at my
"Bolger Shrine" website athttp://www.hallman.org/bolger/
Bruce Hallman
Are there any shetches or cartoons of Illinois? I've never seen
anything about her.
Bruce Hector
anything about her.
Bruce Hector
>Puffer looks great...though;Nicely said!
>I just read Annie Hill's "Voyaging on a Small Income" >chapter on
>anchors, [put the scare in me], and one advantage to >Illinois would
>be it's lower height and narrower width, making an easier >boat to
>hold anchor.
>Fitting in a marina slip is nice, but I hate the noise of >all those
>halyards clanking, and I imagine anchoring in some >beautiful,
>isolated place. Runs to the civilized world in the >skiff, and calm
>wind/mid-week/"avoid a crowd" trips to the marina to >empty the sewage.
And so my decision to build the Wyoming!
Jeff
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--- In bolger@y..., Philip Smith <pbs@w...> wrote:
I just read Annie Hill's "Voyaging on a Small Income" chapter on
anchors, [put the scare in me], and one advantage to Illinois would
be it's lower height and narrower width, making an easier boat to
hold anchor.
Fitting in a marina slip is nice, but I hate the noise of all those
halyards clanking, and I imagine anchoring in some beautiful,
isolated place. Runs to the civilized world in the skiff, and calm
wind/mid-week/"avoid a crowd" trips to the marina to empty the sewage.
I got sketches of Windermere on my wall, and it is seeming more and
more adaquate the longer I look at it.
> Puffer 40, 40' x 14' x 2', 40,000 pounds displacement,vs.
> Illinois, 63' 1" x 10' x 1' 6", 31,000 pounds displacementPuffer looks great...though;
> Puffer 40 has the advantage...it will fit in...40' marina
> slip.
I just read Annie Hill's "Voyaging on a Small Income" chapter on
anchors, [put the scare in me], and one advantage to Illinois would
be it's lower height and narrower width, making an easier boat to
hold anchor.
Fitting in a marina slip is nice, but I hate the noise of all those
halyards clanking, and I imagine anchoring in some beautiful,
isolated place. Runs to the civilized world in the skiff, and calm
wind/mid-week/"avoid a crowd" trips to the marina to empty the sewage.
I got sketches of Windermere on my wall, and it is seeming more and
more adaquate the longer I look at it.
If I remember correctly, PCB was looking for somebody to put down $2000 to finish the design. I
really thought about it and when I mentioned"living on a boat" to my wife, she became much more
interested in finding a retirement home "on land". Prior to that she was humoring me. Clyde
ellengaestboatbuildingcom wrote:
really thought about it and when I mentioned"living on a boat" to my wife, she became much more
interested in finding a retirement home "on land". Prior to that she was humoring me. Clyde
ellengaestboatbuildingcom wrote:
> --- In bolger@y..., Philip Smith <pbs@w...> wrote:
>
> > >
> > Evidently Phil's "Puffer 40" never made it to the finished design
> phase. It
> > seems as if it is pretty close from the drawings and that Phil would
> want
> > to complete the design from the write up in a MAIB article. Three
> pages on
> > Puffer 40, 40' x 14' x 2', 40,000 pounds displacement, can be found
> in MAIB
> > Vol. 16, No. 15, 15 Dec 98, beginning on page 26.
>
> For those without the required MAIB article,you can click here to see
> images of the PUFFER 40 that Philip Smith is refering to.Sorry,but no
> text although Mr.Smith pretty much makes a good case for her! Puffer
> is very handsome!
>
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger2/files/BIG%20BOLGER%20BOATS/
> Sincerely,
> Peter Lenihan.........
>
>
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That wouldn't cause objection at this waterfront.
I note the Box cutwater ( sorry ). Puffer seems to offer
confirmation that the slow speed boats don't have to have it
running aft of midships.
Mark
ellengaestboatbuildingcom wrote:
I note the Box cutwater ( sorry ). Puffer seems to offer
confirmation that the slow speed boats don't have to have it
running aft of midships.
Mark
ellengaestboatbuildingcom wrote:
>
> --- In bolger@y..., Philip Smith <pbs@w...> wrote:
>
> > >
> > Evidently Phil's "Puffer 40" never made it to the
> finished design
> phase. It
> > seems as if it is pretty close from the drawings and
> that Phil would
> want
> > to complete the design from the write up in a MAIB
> article. Three
> pages on
> > Puffer 40, 40' x 14' x 2', 40,000 pounds displacement,
> can be found
> in MAIB
> > Vol. 16, No. 15, 15 Dec 98, beginning on page 26.
>
> For those without the required MAIB article,you can click
> here to see
> images of the PUFFER 40 that Philip Smith is refering
> to.Sorry,but no
> text although Mr.Smith pretty much makes a good case for
> her! Puffer
> is very handsome!
>
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger2/files/BIG%20BOLGER%20BOATS/
> Sincerely,
> Peter Lenihan.........
>
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--- In bolger@y..., Philip Smith <pbs@w...> wrote:
images of the PUFFER 40 that Philip Smith is refering to.Sorry,but no
text although Mr.Smith pretty much makes a good case for her! Puffer
is very handsome!
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger2/files/BIG%20BOLGER%20BOATS/
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan.........
> >phase. It
> Evidently Phil's "Puffer 40" never made it to the finished design
> seems as if it is pretty close from the drawings and that Phil wouldwant
> to complete the design from the write up in a MAIB article. Threepages on
> Puffer 40, 40' x 14' x 2', 40,000 pounds displacement, can be foundin MAIB
> Vol. 16, No. 15, 15 Dec 98, beginning on page 26.For those without the required MAIB article,you can click here to see
images of the PUFFER 40 that Philip Smith is refering to.Sorry,but no
text although Mr.Smith pretty much makes a good case for her! Puffer
is very handsome!
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger2/files/BIG%20BOLGER%20BOATS/
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan.........
>Evidently Phil's "Puffer 40" never made it to the finished design phase. It
>I wonder if PCB has designed other "floating studio" live-aboards of
>which I am not aware?
>
seems as if it is pretty close from the drawings and that Phil would want
to complete the design from the write up in a MAIB article. Three pages on
Puffer 40, 40' x 14' x 2', 40,000 pounds displacement, can be found in MAIB
Vol. 16, No. 15, 15 Dec 98, beginning on page 26. I believe that Illinois,
63' 1" x 10' x 1' 6", 31,000 pounds displacement, can be found in MAIB Vol.
16, No. 15, 1 Dec 98, beginning on page 28. Many people say that boats cost
by the pound, so it is possible that Puffer 40 would cost more to build
than Illinois, but Illinois would seem to have a whole lot more plywood and
glue and work in her than Puffer 40.
Puffer 40 has the advantage in that it will fit in the standard 40' marina
slip. I think that it would make a great retirement pad/ bachelor pad/
getaway/ artists studio. Although Puffer 40 was commissioned by a guy who
wanted to be able to leave the dock to satisfy the "functioning boat"
criteria of the marina management, PCB says that with two Yamaha high
thrust 50s she should move right along, be maneuverable and fairly seaworthy.
Puffer 40 seems to be an eminently sensible design for those who can live
aboard in a marina. If you can live in a marina and need more space, two
Puffer 40s might make more sense than one Illinois. Might be less expensive
to berth too as the Puffer 40s fit into slips and Illinois doesn't.
Illinois might look twice as good, though.
If conversations with Phil are any indication, a strong commitment to build
Puffer 40 and a little more money than the cost of one of his stock plans
ought to get the design completed. It certainly wouldn't hurt to ask him
how much and when he thought he'd get the plans done.
Phil Smith
You make me think, how to choose; Bill with a focus on the process,
and Peter focusing on the practical. PCB reflects this dichotomy
exactly in most of his essays, which are windows into his design
process.
I keep coming back to Illinois...
PCB writes about live-a-boards/Illinois:
..."It has to resemble a real boat! You can not risk looking like a
squatter, notwithstanding the fact that you actually are sort
of."..."Her style was intended to avoid the usual protests by owners
of shore property in the vicinity of such places. They will fight
hard, and usually successfully, against intrusion on their views of
house type houseboats, but often actually welcome the presence of a
yacht, especially if she goes away occasionally. This craft is a
reasonably convincing representation of a large power cruiser of
1920's vintage."...
From the phylosophical perspective: I keep dreaming about living
aboard. I want a "low overhead" studio, a peaceful haven to clear my
mind and create art, software, etc.. Illinois, anchored in a marsh
at dawn, seems to fit this bill exactly.
From a practical perspective, I can't decide where to physically be,
now in the San Francisco Bay area, but later perhaps in Puget Sound
and north. As Illinois is not nearly offshore capable, I hope
hauling it with a commerical trucker on I-5 is not out of the
question.
I wonder if PCB has designed other "floating studio" live-aboards of
which I am not aware?
and Peter focusing on the practical. PCB reflects this dichotomy
exactly in most of his essays, which are windows into his design
process.
I keep coming back to Illinois...
PCB writes about live-a-boards/Illinois:
..."It has to resemble a real boat! You can not risk looking like a
squatter, notwithstanding the fact that you actually are sort
of."..."Her style was intended to avoid the usual protests by owners
of shore property in the vicinity of such places. They will fight
hard, and usually successfully, against intrusion on their views of
house type houseboats, but often actually welcome the presence of a
yacht, especially if she goes away occasionally. This craft is a
reasonably convincing representation of a large power cruiser of
1920's vintage."...
From the phylosophical perspective: I keep dreaming about living
aboard. I want a "low overhead" studio, a peaceful haven to clear my
mind and create art, software, etc.. Illinois, anchored in a marsh
at dawn, seems to fit this bill exactly.
From a practical perspective, I can't decide where to physically be,
now in the San Francisco Bay area, but later perhaps in Puget Sound
and north. As Illinois is not nearly offshore capable, I hope
hauling it with a commerical trucker on I-5 is not out of the
question.
I wonder if PCB has designed other "floating studio" live-aboards of
which I am not aware?
How to choose? I'm the wrong person to ask about that. But I
have added half a dozen designs from "Small Boats," bringing
the total to 160. More to come.
Steve Paskey
have added half a dozen designs from "Small Boats," bringing
the total to 160. More to come.
Steve Paskey
--- In bolger@y..., "brucehallman" <brucehallman@y...> wrote:
> Open question to the list:
> Advise me please, as to how to make a choice.
--- In bolger@y..., "brucehallman" <brucehallman@y...> wrote:
You could have at least picked an easier question to ask the
group,like; just how many gallons of water are there in the oceans
anyway? :-)
But since you've chosen a real tuffy,you'll just have to put up
with this attempt of mine.
I think it all revolves around the idea of movement.Many
movements,in fact! The first movement has to happen from within
yourself.Since no one knows YOU like you know YOU only you can decide
if it is a significant movement.It may be a noticable racing of your
heart as your gaze settles on a particular design or perhaps a sudden
rush of images cascading through the cinema of your mind.You may
become aware of yourself enjoying the most delightful daydreams about
a particular design or,even better,experiencing vivid dreams of
actually using a certain boat.Whichever it is,there has to be this
stirring from within,this shifting of focus toward the possible,this
movement.
Like the snowball formed in ones hands and laid on the
ground,the next movement will show direction.At first you may yet
to have a clear idea of direction but as you begin to assemble items
considered important to you,your direction will become clearer.Just
like the snowball pushed along through the snow will grow in size and
shape,so too will your thoughts.Perhaps,as your snowball grows,you
will be faced with choices."Do I have what it takes to push my
snowball up this slight incline or should I turn it toward that nice
flat piece of field?" Only you will know at that time,the choice is
unimportant! Movement is everything....gotta keep the ball rolling.
And so it will go,your boat will begin to take on real heft like
the snowball.Soon it will be as big as yourself or bigger! You may
even begin to fear that you cannot possibly continue keeping up this
movement.But have no fear! Your snowball is big and beautiful and has
started to attract attention.Unexpectedly,helping hands will appear to
help you along as you go.With all this rolling around(movement!) your
snowball has also picked up all sorts of odd bits of stuff through the
snow like twigs,leaves and garbage from the path you have chosen.Your
snowball,although very much like any other snowball,will be a unique
collection of odd bits reflecting this particular route of yours.
In time,all you will be able to see in front of you is one huge
snowball.Nothing else will matter.Also in time,you will decide to stop
pushing the snowball.You will know when it is big enough.At that
point,you may wish to climb to the top of it to admire the view your
snowball now affords you or you may simply dig a hole into the center
and marvel at the special silence which surrounds you with
serenity.These simple pleasures will be unique to you and enhanced
through the knowledge that you did it! This is your own special
snowball!
Now,some may snicker and say'"Ya sure,anyone can build a big
snowball man". Well Bruce,to them(and you) I ask only this,"Just
exactly when was the last time you did one?"
I guess what I'm trying to say with all this is that it really
doesn't matter.At some point you just have to surrender your"armchair"
status to someone else and git yerself in gear!Movement! There ain't
no law that says you can only build ONE boat per lifetime.Just pick
the one that moves you and keep it in motion!!
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,(hoping Bruce gets to feel something moving inside real
soon),from the shores of the St.Lawrence............
> I fall into the "armchair builder/dreamer" camp here. And, myNever-the-less,
> favorite design is typically the last one I studied.
> I want to build a "big one" someday soon. Looking at that list, IBruce,
> simply cannot imagine being able to narrow my choices down to one!
>
> Open question to the list:
> Advise me please, as to how to make a choice.
You could have at least picked an easier question to ask the
group,like; just how many gallons of water are there in the oceans
anyway? :-)
But since you've chosen a real tuffy,you'll just have to put up
with this attempt of mine.
I think it all revolves around the idea of movement.Many
movements,in fact! The first movement has to happen from within
yourself.Since no one knows YOU like you know YOU only you can decide
if it is a significant movement.It may be a noticable racing of your
heart as your gaze settles on a particular design or perhaps a sudden
rush of images cascading through the cinema of your mind.You may
become aware of yourself enjoying the most delightful daydreams about
a particular design or,even better,experiencing vivid dreams of
actually using a certain boat.Whichever it is,there has to be this
stirring from within,this shifting of focus toward the possible,this
movement.
Like the snowball formed in ones hands and laid on the
ground,the next movement will show direction.At first you may yet
to have a clear idea of direction but as you begin to assemble items
considered important to you,your direction will become clearer.Just
like the snowball pushed along through the snow will grow in size and
shape,so too will your thoughts.Perhaps,as your snowball grows,you
will be faced with choices."Do I have what it takes to push my
snowball up this slight incline or should I turn it toward that nice
flat piece of field?" Only you will know at that time,the choice is
unimportant! Movement is everything....gotta keep the ball rolling.
And so it will go,your boat will begin to take on real heft like
the snowball.Soon it will be as big as yourself or bigger! You may
even begin to fear that you cannot possibly continue keeping up this
movement.But have no fear! Your snowball is big and beautiful and has
started to attract attention.Unexpectedly,helping hands will appear to
help you along as you go.With all this rolling around(movement!) your
snowball has also picked up all sorts of odd bits of stuff through the
snow like twigs,leaves and garbage from the path you have chosen.Your
snowball,although very much like any other snowball,will be a unique
collection of odd bits reflecting this particular route of yours.
In time,all you will be able to see in front of you is one huge
snowball.Nothing else will matter.Also in time,you will decide to stop
pushing the snowball.You will know when it is big enough.At that
point,you may wish to climb to the top of it to admire the view your
snowball now affords you or you may simply dig a hole into the center
and marvel at the special silence which surrounds you with
serenity.These simple pleasures will be unique to you and enhanced
through the knowledge that you did it! This is your own special
snowball!
Now,some may snicker and say'"Ya sure,anyone can build a big
snowball man". Well Bruce,to them(and you) I ask only this,"Just
exactly when was the last time you did one?"
I guess what I'm trying to say with all this is that it really
doesn't matter.At some point you just have to surrender your"armchair"
status to someone else and git yerself in gear!Movement! There ain't
no law that says you can only build ONE boat per lifetime.Just pick
the one that moves you and keep it in motion!!
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,(hoping Bruce gets to feel something moving inside real
soon),from the shores of the St.Lawrence............
I gotta see 'Fie Fia'
I hope you don't mind I edited two of your entries.
For the Auray Punt I added to availability in BWAOM, since
enough is there to build.
For Anhinga, in description went the URL to files in
Bolger2. Can't be a hotlink, but copy and paste will take
you there.
Mark
brucehallman wrote:
I hope you don't mind I edited two of your entries.
For the Auray Punt I added to availability in BWAOM, since
enough is there to build.
For Anhinga, in description went the URL to files in
Bolger2. Can't be a hotlink, but copy and paste will take
you there.
Mark
brucehallman wrote:
>
>
> I'm in pure awe of that man's creative energy.
I just loaded 100 more PCB designs into the database, drawing from
the MAIB index. Presently there are 154 boats in the database. I
have read everything I have come across by PCB for ten years now, and
still, about half of these 154 designs are unfamiliar to me.
I'm in pure awe of that man's creative energy. PCB is to boat design
as Hank Aaron is to baseball...or perhaps...he should be compared to
the engergizer bunny.
Some people have suggested that there are 700 numbered designs, and I
suspect that there are another 1000 concept studies, many of which
complete enough be numbered if he wanted.
I fall into the "armchair builder/dreamer" camp here. And, my
favorite design is typically the last one I studied. Never-the-less,
I want to build a "big one" someday soon. Looking at that list, I
simply cannot imagine being able to narrow my choices down to one!
Open question to the list:
Advise me please, as to how to make a choice.
the MAIB index. Presently there are 154 boats in the database. I
have read everything I have come across by PCB for ten years now, and
still, about half of these 154 designs are unfamiliar to me.
I'm in pure awe of that man's creative energy. PCB is to boat design
as Hank Aaron is to baseball...or perhaps...he should be compared to
the engergizer bunny.
Some people have suggested that there are 700 numbered designs, and I
suspect that there are another 1000 concept studies, many of which
complete enough be numbered if he wanted.
I fall into the "armchair builder/dreamer" camp here. And, my
favorite design is typically the last one I studied. Never-the-less,
I want to build a "big one" someday soon. Looking at that list, I
simply cannot imagine being able to narrow my choices down to one!
Open question to the list:
Advise me please, as to how to make a choice.