Re: selling LED stuff

--- In bolger@y..., "Bill Kreamer" <kreamer@m...> wrote:
> I guess I missed the (estimated?) cost.
>
> -Bill
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Clyde S. Wisner [mailto:clydewis@c...]
> Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 8:48 AM
> To: bolger@y...
> Subject: Re: [bolger] Re: selling LED stuff
>
> Me too, though I can't say that I understand the tech stuff. I can
> follow directions. Clyde
>
> "Harry W. James" wrote:
>
> > Well alrighty then, sign me up for a kit.
> >
> > HJ
> >
> > rlspell2000 wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm using 16 gauge wire. Max current to the masthead light
(longest
> > > run, highest current) would be about .3 amps. For a 50ft run of
16
> > > gauge wire at .3 amps you loose about .1 volts.
> > >http://www.altronix.com/html/an101.htm
> > >
> > > The regulator is adjustable. I'm going to wire up the masthead,
and
> > > adjust to get 3.6 or so there. Then, should get somewhere around
> 3.65
> > > (depending) on each of the other lights.
> > >
> > > --- In bolger@y..., "Harry W. James" <welshman@p...> wrote:
> > > > Well then, how about voltage drop over the wiring resistance,
or
> is
> > > the
> > > > current draw so low that it doesn't matter?
> > > >
> > > > HJ
> > > >
> > > > rlspell2000 wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes. The regulator will take battery power (6v-24v) and
convert
> > > it to
> > > > > exactly 3.6v (or whatever your LED's require, it's
adjustable).
> It
> > > > > will put out around 2 amps of power. The high power LED's
draw
> > > > > about .02 amps (depending). This is 100 LED's, more than
enough
> > > for
> > > > > all the lights on a boat.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In bolger@y..., "Harry W. James" <welshman@p...> wrote:
> > > > > > Did I understand one of your replies, That this kit would
> supply
> > > > > would
> > > > > > power all LED lights on a boat?
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
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> Well alrighty then, sign me up for a kit.
>
> HJ
>
> rlspell2000 wrote:
> >
> > I'm using 16 gauge wire. Max current to the masthead light (longest
> > run, highest current) would be about .3 amps. For a 50ft run of 16
> > gauge wire at .3 amps you loose about .1 volts.
> >http://www.altronix.com/html/an101.htm
> >
> > The regulator is adjustable. I'm going to wire up the masthead, and
> > adjust to get 3.6 or so there. Then, should get somewhere around

> > (depending) on each of the other lights.
> >
> > --- In bolger@y..., "Harry W. James" <welshman@p...> wrote:
> > > Well then, how about voltage drop over the wiring resistance, or

> > the
> > > current draw so low that it doesn't matter?
> > >
> > > HJ
> > >
> > > rlspell2000 wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yes. The regulator will take battery power (6v-24v) and convert
> > it to
> > > > exactly 3.6v (or whatever your LED's require, it's adjustable).

> > > > will put out around 2 amps of power. The high power LED's draw
> > > > about .02 amps (depending). This is 100 LED's, more than enough
> > for
> > > > all the lights on a boat.
> > > >
> > > > --- In bolger@y..., "Harry W. James" <welshman@p...> wrote:
> > > > > Did I understand one of your replies, That this kit would

> > > > would
> > > > > power all LED lights on a boat?
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
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> Well alrighty then, sign me up for a kit.
>
> HJ
>
> rlspell2000 wrote:
> >
> > I'm using 16 gauge wire. Max current to the masthead light (longest
> > run, highest current) would be about .3 amps. For a 50ft run of 16
> > gauge wire at .3 amps you loose about .1 volts.
> >http://www.altronix.com/html/an101.htm
> >
> > The regulator is adjustable. I'm going to wire up the masthead, and
> > adjust to get 3.6 or so there. Then, should get somewhere around 3.65
> > (depending) on each of the other lights.
> >
> > --- In bolger@y..., "Harry W. James" <welshman@p...> wrote:
> > > Well then, how about voltage drop over the wiring resistance, or is
> > the
> > > current draw so low that it doesn't matter?
> > >
> > > HJ
> > >
> > > rlspell2000 wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yes. The regulator will take battery power (6v-24v) and convert
> > it to
> > > > exactly 3.6v (or whatever your LED's require, it's adjustable). It
> > > > will put out around 2 amps of power. The high power LED's draw
> > > > about .02 amps (depending). This is 100 LED's, more than enough
> > for
> > > > all the lights on a boat.
> > > >
> > > > --- In bolger@y..., "Harry W. James" <welshman@p...> wrote:
> > > > > Did I understand one of your replies, That this kit would supply
> > > > would
> > > > > power all LED lights on a boat?
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
> > Bolger rules!!!
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>
> I'm using 16 gauge wire. Max current to the masthead light (longest
> run, highest current) would be about .3 amps. For a 50ft run of 16
> gauge wire at .3 amps you loose about .1 volts.
>http://www.altronix.com/html/an101.htm
>
> The regulator is adjustable. I'm going to wire up the masthead, and
> adjust to get 3.6 or so there. Then, should get somewhere around 3.65
> (depending) on each of the other lights.
>
> --- In bolger@y..., "Harry W. James" <welshman@p...> wrote:
> > Well then, how about voltage drop over the wiring resistance, or is
> the
> > current draw so low that it doesn't matter?
> >
> > HJ
> >
> > rlspell2000 wrote:
> > >
> > > Yes. The regulator will take battery power (6v-24v) and convert
> it to
> > > exactly 3.6v (or whatever your LED's require, it's adjustable). It
> > > will put out around 2 amps of power. The high power LED's draw
> > > about .02 amps (depending). This is 100 LED's, more than enough
> for
> > > all the lights on a boat.
> > >
> > > --- In bolger@y..., "Harry W. James" <welshman@p...> wrote:
> > > > Did I understand one of your replies, That this kit would supply
> > > would
> > > > power all LED lights on a boat?
> > > >
> > >
>
>
> Bolger rules!!!
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> - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts, snip all you like
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--- In bolger@y..., "rnlocnil" <lincolnr@m...> wrote:
> No reason to use heavy wire, just add a tenth or two to the voltage
> and use light wire! Are you getting a 25 foot run by using the mast
> for return? Connections to aluminum aren't always the most
reliable.
> On the other hand, your masthead fixture is probably going to have
> quite a few bulbs in it, say 10, or 0.2A in all. Still, that's
> less than two tenths of a volt for 22 ga wire. Cheaper way to
> lighten your mast than thinning out the wall and using boron! Could
> save you on the order of half a pound.
> --- In bolger@y..., "rlspell2000" <richard@s...> wrote:
> > Actualy, thanks for asking that quesiton. I'm going to use 14
gauge
> > wire instead, and only have a .07 volt drop to the masthead light.
> >
> > Another actualy, the masthead light is at the top of a 25ft run,
I
> > was using the return figures for a total run lenght of 50ft.
> >
> > So, the number would be half again. 14 gauge would give you a
> voltage
> > drop at the masthead light of .035 volts.
> >
> > --- In bolger@y..., "Harry W. James" <welshman@p...> wrote:
> > > Well then, how about voltage drop over the wiring resistance,
or
> is
> > the
> > > current draw so low that it doesn't matter?
> > >
> > > HJ
> > >
> > > rlspell2000 wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yes. The regulator will take battery power (6v-24v) and
convert
> > it to
> > > > exactly 3.6v (or whatever your LED's require, it's
adjustable).
> It
> > > > will put out around 2 amps of power. The high power LED's draw
> > > > about .02 amps (depending). This is 100 LED's, more than
enough
> > for
> > > > all the lights on a boat.
> > > >
> > > > --- In bolger@y..., "Harry W. James" <welshman@p...> wrote:
> > > > > Did I understand one of your replies, That this kit would
> supply
> > > > would
> > > > > power all LED lights on a boat?
> > > > >
> > > >

--- In bolger@y..., "rlspell2000" <richard@s...> wrote:
> Actualy, thanks for asking that quesiton. I'm going to use 14 gauge
> wire instead, and only have a .07 volt drop to the masthead light.
>
> Another actualy, the masthead light is at the top of a 25ft run, I
> was using the return figures for a total run lenght of 50ft.
>
> So, the number would be half again. 14 gauge would give you a
voltage
> drop at the masthead light of .035 volts.
>
> --- In bolger@y..., "Harry W. James" <welshman@p...> wrote:
> > Well then, how about voltage drop over the wiring resistance, or
is
> the
> > current draw so low that it doesn't matter?
> >
> > HJ
> >
> > rlspell2000 wrote:
> > >
> > > Yes. The regulator will take battery power (6v-24v) and convert
> it to
> > > exactly 3.6v (or whatever your LED's require, it's adjustable).
It
> > > will put out around 2 amps of power. The high power LED's draw
> > > about .02 amps (depending). This is 100 LED's, more than enough
> for
> > > all the lights on a boat.
> > >
> > > --- In bolger@y..., "Harry W. James" <welshman@p...> wrote:
> > > > Did I understand one of your replies, That this kit would
supply
> > > would
> > > > power all LED lights on a boat?
> > > >
> > >

--- In bolger@y..., "Harry W. James" <welshman@p...> wrote:
> Well then, how about voltage drop over the wiring resistance, or is
the
> current draw so low that it doesn't matter?
>
> HJ
>
> rlspell2000 wrote:
> >
> > Yes. The regulator will take battery power (6v-24v) and convert
it to
> > exactly 3.6v (or whatever your LED's require, it's adjustable). It
> > will put out around 2 amps of power. The high power LED's draw
> > about .02 amps (depending). This is 100 LED's, more than enough
for
> > all the lights on a boat.
> >
> > --- In bolger@y..., "Harry W. James" <welshman@p...> wrote:
> > > Did I understand one of your replies, That this kit would supply
> > would
> > > power all LED lights on a boat?
> > >
> >

--- In bolger@y..., "Harry W. James" <welshman@p...> wrote:
> Well then, how about voltage drop over the wiring resistance, or is
the
> current draw so low that it doesn't matter?
>
> HJ
>
> rlspell2000 wrote:
> >
> > Yes. The regulator will take battery power (6v-24v) and convert
it to
> > exactly 3.6v (or whatever your LED's require, it's adjustable). It
> > will put out around 2 amps of power. The high power LED's draw
> > about .02 amps (depending). This is 100 LED's, more than enough
for
> > all the lights on a boat.
> >
> > --- In bolger@y..., "Harry W. James" <welshman@p...> wrote:
> > > Did I understand one of your replies, That this kit would supply
> > would
> > > power all LED lights on a boat?
> > >
> >

>
> Yes. The regulator will take battery power (6v-24v) and convert it to
> exactly 3.6v (or whatever your LED's require, it's adjustable). It
> will put out around 2 amps of power. The high power LED's draw
> about .02 amps (depending). This is 100 LED's, more than enough for
> all the lights on a boat.
>
> --- In bolger@y..., "Harry W. James" <welshman@p...> wrote:
> > Did I understand one of your replies, That this kit would supply
> would
> > power all LED lights on a boat?
> >
>

--- In bolger@y..., "Harry W. James" <welshman@p...> wrote:
> Did I understand one of your replies, That this kit would supply
would
> power all LED lights on a boat?
>
> HJ
>
> rlspell2000 wrote:
> >
> > I'm thinking of offering a kit for the 3.6v regulator needed for
> > bright white LED lights on boats, as well as the assembled unit.
This
> > would be a high efficiency switching regulator, connectors, case,
etc.
> >
> > Maybe etched circuit boards for mouting LED's on too.
> >
> > I'd be selling them on chebacco.com.
> >
> > Buyers would gain:
> > 1) Known configuration that works
> > 2) Would not need the infrastructure to work with surface mount
> > components
> > 3) Would not need the infrasturcture to etch PC boards
> > 4) Would not need to find sources for the various components.
> >
> > Any thoughts? I would offer the kit for the regulator for about
$75.
> >
> > Anybody interested?
> >
> > Bolger rules!!!
> > - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or flogging dead horses
> > - pls take "personals" off-list, stay on topic, and punctuate
> > - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts, snip all you
like
> > - To order plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209,
Gloucester, MA, 01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
> > - Unsubscribe: bolger-unsubscribe@y...
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

>
> I'm thinking of offering a kit for the 3.6v regulator needed for
> bright white LED lights on boats, as well as the assembled unit. This
> would be a high efficiency switching regulator, connectors, case, etc.
>
> Maybe etched circuit boards for mouting LED's on too.
>
> I'd be selling them on chebacco.com.
>
> Buyers would gain:
> 1) Known configuration that works
> 2) Would not need the infrastructure to work with surface mount
> components
> 3) Would not need the infrasturcture to etch PC boards
> 4) Would not need to find sources for the various components.
>
> Any thoughts? I would offer the kit for the regulator for about $75.
>
> Anybody interested?
>
> Bolger rules!!!
> - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or flogging dead horses
> - pls take "personals" off-list, stay on topic, and punctuate
> - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts, snip all you like
> - To order plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA, 01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
> - Unsubscribe:bolger-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
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--- In bolger@y..., "petehodges" <petehodges@y...> wrote:
> I would be interested.
>
> I would also suggest you look at a kit that could be used to
> manufacture a replacement bulb for incadecent bulbs, e.g. a fitting
> that would plug into an existing 12v socket.
>
> You could even provide a frenzel(sp?) lense that could be used for
a
> masthead light.
>
> Keep me informed.
>
>
> --- In bolger@y..., "rlspell2000" <richard@s...> wrote:
> > I'm thinking of offering a kit for the 3.6v regulator needed for
> > bright white LED lights on boats, as well as the assembled unit.
> This
> > would be a high efficiency switching regulator, connectors, case,
> etc.
> >
> > Maybe etched circuit boards for mouting LED's on too.
> >
> > I'd be selling them on chebacco.com.
> >
> > Buyers would gain:
> > 1) Known configuration that works
> > 2) Would not need the infrastructure to work with surface mount
> > components
> > 3) Would not need the infrasturcture to etch PC boards
> > 4) Would not need to find sources for the various components.
> >
> > Any thoughts? I would offer the kit for the regulator for about
$75.
> >
> > Anybody interested?

--- In bolger@y..., "rlspell2000" <richard@s...> wrote:
> I'm thinking of offering a kit for the 3.6v regulator needed for
> bright white LED lights on boats, as well as the assembled unit.
This
> would be a high efficiency switching regulator, connectors, case,
etc.
>
> Maybe etched circuit boards for mouting LED's on too.
>
> I'd be selling them on chebacco.com.
>
> Buyers would gain:
> 1) Known configuration that works
> 2) Would not need the infrastructure to work with surface mount
> components
> 3) Would not need the infrasturcture to etch PC boards
> 4) Would not need to find sources for the various components.
>
> Any thoughts? I would offer the kit for the regulator for about $75.
>
> Anybody interested?

--- In bolger@y..., "Charles Whipple" <ctw-inex@k...> wrote:
> I've been looking for LED navigational lights, so I don't have to
worry
> about changing bulbs for a million hours. Know of any available?
>
>
>
> ----------
> >From: "rlspell2000" <richard@s...>
> >To: bolger@y...
> >Subject: [bolger] selling LED stuff
> >Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 20:49:01 -0000
> >
>
> > I'm thinking of offering a kit for the 3.6v regulator needed for
> > bright white LED lights on boats, as well as the assembled unit.
This
> > would be a high efficiency switching regulator, connectors, case,
etc.
> >
> > Maybe etched circuit boards for mouting LED's on too.
> >
> > I'd be selling them on chebacco.com.
> >
> > Buyers would gain:
> > 1) Known configuration that works
> > 2) Would not need the infrastructure to work with surface mount
> > components
> > 3) Would not need the infrasturcture to etch PC boards
> > 4) Would not need to find sources for the various components.
> >
> > Any thoughts? I would offer the kit for the regulator for about
$75.
> >
> > Anybody interested?
> >
> >

>From: "rlspell2000" <richard@...>
>To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [bolger] selling LED stuff
>Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 20:49:01 -0000
>

> I'm thinking of offering a kit for the 3.6v regulator needed for
> bright white LED lights on boats, as well as the assembled unit. This
> would be a high efficiency switching regulator, connectors, case, etc.
>
> Maybe etched circuit boards for mouting LED's on too.
>
> I'd be selling them on chebacco.com.
>
> Buyers would gain:
> 1) Known configuration that works
> 2) Would not need the infrastructure to work with surface mount
> components
> 3) Would not need the infrasturcture to etch PC boards
> 4) Would not need to find sources for the various components.
>
> Any thoughts? I would offer the kit for the regulator for about $75.
>
> Anybody interested?
>
>