Re: [bolger] Time to Start (Cartopper)
On Fri, 22 Feb 2002, gem54 wrote:
than douglas fir, and it finishes less well. You will find that a BC Pine
Cartopper won't be much of a car-topper: too heavy to lift.
Really, the overall cost difference here isn't much, and so, I encourage
you to not use BC pine.
On the other hand, if you *must* use cheaper ply, I would recommend you
take a look at the luaun underlayment. I've used it successfully, it
finishes well, and holds up to the occasional dunking that car-topped
boats get.
BC pine really is the lowest possible choice--one step above OSB for this
application.
I think it's worth paying the difference here.
> I have one question. I was planning on using the fancy lightweightI'll disagree here, and strongly so. BC Pine is A LOT heavier per sheet
> marine plywood. After comparing the price to the BC Pine plywood at
> Home Depot I don't think the difference is worth the cost. Does anyone
> have experience with the stuff from HD?
than douglas fir, and it finishes less well. You will find that a BC Pine
Cartopper won't be much of a car-topper: too heavy to lift.
Really, the overall cost difference here isn't much, and so, I encourage
you to not use BC pine.
On the other hand, if you *must* use cheaper ply, I would recommend you
take a look at the luaun underlayment. I've used it successfully, it
finishes well, and holds up to the occasional dunking that car-topped
boats get.
BC pine really is the lowest possible choice--one step above OSB for this
application.
I think it's worth paying the difference here.
I'm about to start a Cartopper, too.
I'm just finishing building my new shop, so it will be a few weeks
before I start on the boat. I've been going back and forth on the
marine ply issue too and I've decided that I'm going to make this a
nice boat with a natural finish inside, so I'll spend the extra for
the good stuff. This is my second homebuilt and after my first one I
decided that unless you're doing a hack job, the price for superior
materials is generally worth it. But that's the great thing about
Bolger's designs; it's totally up to you how much you want to spend.
You still get pretty much the same boat, performance-wise, whether
you go for bargain-basement or fine funiture. I'm using epoxy too,
which is really the bigger decision as far as price goes.
Anyway, it looks like a fun little boat. I can't wait to get it
going. Please keep us informed on your progress and I'll do likewise.
Kellan
I'm just finishing building my new shop, so it will be a few weeks
before I start on the boat. I've been going back and forth on the
marine ply issue too and I've decided that I'm going to make this a
nice boat with a natural finish inside, so I'll spend the extra for
the good stuff. This is my second homebuilt and after my first one I
decided that unless you're doing a hack job, the price for superior
materials is generally worth it. But that's the great thing about
Bolger's designs; it's totally up to you how much you want to spend.
You still get pretty much the same boat, performance-wise, whether
you go for bargain-basement or fine funiture. I'm using epoxy too,
which is really the bigger decision as far as price goes.
Anyway, it looks like a fun little boat. I can't wait to get it
going. Please keep us informed on your progress and I'll do likewise.
Kellan
--- In bolger@y..., "pvanderwaart" <pvanderwaart@y...> wrote:
> > After comparing the price to the BC Pine plywood at
> > Home Depot I don't think the difference is worth the cost.
>
> If you can keep the boat clean and dry when not actually in use,
the
> boat will last a long time with either wood.
Heck I'm using MDO for a very large boat! Marine ply is nice but with epoxy and common sense maintenance and storage, the pine or fur ply should be okay. Just fill the voids if any are noticeable.
Jeff
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Jeff
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> After comparing the price to the BC Pine plywood atIf you can keep the boat clean and dry when not actually in use, the
> Home Depot I don't think the difference is worth the cost.
boat will last a long time with either wood.
<snip>I have one question. I was planning on using the fancy lightweight
marine plywood. After comparing the price to the BC Pine plywood at
Home Depot I don't think the difference is worth the cost. Does
anyone have experience with the stuff from HD?
My goal is to have something ready for the Lake Conroe Messabout. We
will see how things progress.
GME
For a first boat, I would definitely use the pine. After you have a couple of boats under your belt, and want to build something for sale, or to last a long time, then go for the marine ply.
See you at Conroe!
Chuck
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marine plywood. After comparing the price to the BC Pine plywood at
Home Depot I don't think the difference is worth the cost. Does
anyone have experience with the stuff from HD?
My goal is to have something ready for the Lake Conroe Messabout. We
will see how things progress.
GME
For a first boat, I would definitely use the pine. After you have a couple of boats under your belt, and want to build something for sale, or to last a long time, then go for the marine ply.
See you at Conroe!
Chuck
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After reading and dreaming about Bolger boats for years, I am finally
starting to build one. Got Cartopper plans from Payson and I am ready
to go. Made a boat-shaped hole in the shop this evening. Tomorrow I
buy the plywood and start cutting away the non-boat parts.
I have one question. I was planning on using the fancy lightweight
marine plywood. After comparing the price to the BC Pine plywood at
Home Depot I don't think the difference is worth the cost. Does
anyone have experience with the stuff from HD?
My goal is to have something ready for the Lake Conroe Messabout. We
will see how things progress.
GME
starting to build one. Got Cartopper plans from Payson and I am ready
to go. Made a boat-shaped hole in the shop this evening. Tomorrow I
buy the plywood and start cutting away the non-boat parts.
I have one question. I was planning on using the fancy lightweight
marine plywood. After comparing the price to the BC Pine plywood at
Home Depot I don't think the difference is worth the cost. Does
anyone have experience with the stuff from HD?
My goal is to have something ready for the Lake Conroe Messabout. We
will see how things progress.
GME