Re: [bolger] Re: Insult to our collective egos

Summer before
> last my wife and I spent
> 5 days in Halifax harbour in our June Bug with all
> the glorious vessels
> gathered for Tall Ships 2000. I'm convinced we were
> photographed more than
> any other single boat gathered there.

Huh- could be I saw you. I was on the US Coast Guard
Barque EAGLE as part of OpSail/Tall Ships 2000. Quite
the experience.

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--- In bolger@y..., "roue20ca" <amoore@h...> wrote:
> It is a shame, but I find there are two types of Bolger enthusiasts
> one type sees and embraces the simple beauty of the designs and puts
> significant effort into the finish work the result can only be
called
> a classy boat. The other type seems to embrace the planeness of the
<snip>
> planeness enthusiasts are, I believe responsible for most the scorn
we
> receive and they don't care what others think. The rest of us
Bolger

Actualy, "Shoestring", Phil's modified Junebug, I would put in
the "classy" category. The finish is as good as the one on my car,
you can't see any of the seams, the brightwork is excelent.

Now, if someone saw MY fake boats, they are welcome to their scorn.
Right up till I sail past them through 2ft of water and land on the
beach and walk off the boat with dry shoes!
> ...which is a shame, as PCB has designed some genuinely gorgeous
> boats that would satisfy even the fussiest snob: Light Schooner,
> Spartina, Gloucester Light Dory, Snow Leopard... heck, did HMS
> _Rose_ put in an appearance at Halifax in 2000?

It is a shame, but I find there are two types of Bolger enthusiasts
one type sees and embraces the simple beauty of the designs and puts
significant effort into the finish work the result can only be called
a classy boat. The other type seems to embrace the planeness of the
design and delibrately ignore the fancy finish work. I understand
both points of view, being an engineer in the Canadian Navy I have
built and seen built many make shift temp fixes that were simple and
ugly but worked so well they were never replaced. With my car simple
and plane works but my boat is special and I like to put some TLC into
it. I probably get a little less return, sailing for my efforts than
the others but its part of the enjoyment of boating, for me. The
planeness enthusiasts are, I believe responsible for most the scorn we
receive and they don't care what others think. The rest of us Bolger
enthusiasts know his boats can be classy if we wish them to be. Lets
face it, there are lots of contemporary boats out there that have not
received much TLC and are hardly classy.

I'm from Halifax but spent most of 2000 in Quebec City sorry I missed
the Tall Ships and can neither confirm nor deny the presents of HMS
Rose in Halifax that year.


Andy Moore
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Canada
I have gotten over the scorn from the prentensios (sp) yacht broker.
I looked at Firefly today and realized how useful a little boat she
is. The bright work really adds to the character, and the cabin is
delightful. I have visions of at least one night in the lee of North
beach off of Pleasant Bay. I in my sleeping bag under the boom tent,
kids below. Breakfast at dawn, swimming, fishing, and lots of
stories under the stars.
If I take into consideration the cost per night, conversations
with the neighbors about the "ark", teaching kids how to build,
working with my own kids on the project. etc... I think I am way
ahead on this one.

David Jost
"itching for my first sail, or are those fiberglass shards stuck in
my hands"
Don't leave out the Bolger power boat designs. "Sneakeasy" and "Idaho"
are fabulous and I dare anyone to make anything but an "Oh Wow" remark
when they see either one. Then tell them they go like crazy with a tiny
motor for thier size and sip gasoline like granny did with cooking
sherry.

J.Brown
Toronto

futabachan wrote:
>
> > Let's face it, as Bolgeristas, we invite a certain amount of
> > chuckle and occasional scorn.
>
> ...which is a shame, as PCB has designed some genuinely gorgeous
> boats that would satisfy even the fussiest snob: Light Schooner,
> Spartina, Gloucester Light Dory, Snow Leopard... heck, did HMS
> _Rose_ put in an appearance at Halifax in 2000?
>
> > Summer before last my wife and I spent
> > 5 days in Halifax harbour in our June Bug with all the glorious
> > vessels gathered for Tall Ships 2000.
>
> Did you camp aboard, or ashore?
>
> --
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Actually I rather enjoy comments like the woman who yelled from 100
meters away as she came down our drive..."What are you building, a
bus shelter?" (Micro Navigator)
It's the sly types who sidle up and ask polite questions, and try or
don't try to hide a smirk as you give an honest answer.
DonB
I've run into that problem myself with certain vendors at boat shows
and when I look for help with my boat. To some extent the ugly truth
is that some of these folks are so confident in getting enough
customers with gobs of money to spend to make good profits per
customer that they feel they don't have to bother volunteering the
time of day to folks who don't want to spend as much. Certain
experienced boat brokers come to mind - they do the same amount of
work selling a big boat as a small boat, but get the bigger
commission for the bigger boat. Of course, I walk away fuming. The
upshot is that I end up doing the maintenance myself, save money, and
learn. Other vendors I found are grateful to have my business. I
pass the good word on about these. I say, go ahead and proudly show
pictures of your boat. You built it which makes a bigger statement
about pride and craftmanship and self initiative than spending a ton
of money.


--- In bolger@y..., "futabachan" <futabachan@y...> wrote:
> > Let's face it, as Bolgeristas, we invite a certain amount of
> > chuckle and occasional scorn.
>
> ...which is a shame, as PCB has designed some genuinely gorgeous
> boats that would satisfy even the fussiest snob: Light Schooner,
> Spartina, Gloucester Light Dory, Snow Leopard... heck, did HMS
> _Rose_ put in an appearance at Halifax in 2000?
>
> > Summer before last my wife and I spent
> > 5 days in Halifax harbour in our June Bug with all the glorious
> > vessels gathered for Tall Ships 2000.
>
> Did you camp aboard, or ashore?
>
> --
> Susan Davis <futabachan@y...>
> Let's face it, as Bolgeristas, we invite a certain amount of
> chuckle and occasional scorn.

...which is a shame, as PCB has designed some genuinely gorgeous
boats that would satisfy even the fussiest snob: Light Schooner,
Spartina, Gloucester Light Dory, Snow Leopard... heck, did HMS
_Rose_ put in an appearance at Halifax in 2000?

> Summer before last my wife and I spent
> 5 days in Halifax harbour in our June Bug with all the glorious
> vessels gathered for Tall Ships 2000.

Did you camp aboard, or ashore?

--
Susan Davis <futabachan@...>
Let's face it, as Bolgeristas, we invite a certain amount of chuckle and
occasional scorn. The vast majority of snobs are "seudo sailors" at best.
They want to appear more knowledgeable than they are by criticizing what
they don't have real knowledge of. My experience has been that REAL wooden
boat sailors/builders/lovers recognize and admire Bolger boats for their
simplicity, performance,and elegance. Summer before last my wife and I spent
5 days in Halifax harbour in our June Bug with all the glorious vessels
gathered for Tall Ships 2000. I'm convinced we were photographed more than
any other single boat gathered there. Yes, we did illicit many humorous
reactions, but we also evoked much envy from the millions (literally)
crowding the waterfront as we joyfully sail/commuted back and forth from our
campsite on MacNab's Island and easily rowed and manouvered within caressing
range of all the spectacular monuments of sail in the harbour.

I think we all take a bit of smug delight from the reactions of the ignorant.

jeb, sleeping better now that my sadly neglected, adopted Micro resides
under a roof of her own, awaiting tender, loving care on the snow covered,
fogbound, sodden shores of Fundy