Re: Microcampers was insult to...
WOW, a woman with tools, who's building her own boat, and is a
technophile? I'm in love. (please send picture of tools and boat)
da
technophile? I'm in love. (please send picture of tools and boat)
da
--- In bolger@y..., "futabachan" <futabachan@y...> wrote:
> I think we have about one more Saturday worth of work (hanging
> drywall) and a handful of evenings. The other project, which
> needs to wait until the ground unfreezes, will be to run power
> (and data) out to the gara^H^H^H^Hboat shop; after that, I think
> I'll be done for a while.
>
> I don't understand the coexistence of all this and the TV AND theWell, the TV doesn't get much use, especially since I discovered
> computer. Are you a former software person who retired early? Do
> you ever sleep?
that I can't have satellite. And there's nothing on worth watching,
anyway, other than Buffy and the West Wing.
> BTW, Soling 1M is ok, but US1M is much more fun.Perhaps, but US1M's aren't raced around here, which is no fun.
And the Soling is just enough boat for me to dip my toe into the
RC world, but not so much that I get completely sucked in.
OTOH, our local club is starting a Star 45 fleet, and it's
awfully tempting to try to scratch-build one... and the study
models of Paradox and the big schooner that I build before
starting construction on the real thing are awfully tempting add
radio control to....
--
Susan Davis <futabachan@...>
I don't understand the coexistence of all this and the TV AND the
computer. Are you a former software person who retired early? Do you
ever sleep?
I find my building goes much too slow with all the distractions, even
tho I'm out of a job right now. (anyone in Boston area need some
mechanical design/engineering help?)
BTW, Soling 1M is ok, but US1M is much more fun. OTOH, you will only
need one rig even on windy days. I've wondered how much a sharpie
version would give up in performance. I'm trying (and maybe failing)
to give up this new, additional hobby (boats are already behind model
planes).
It's very warm here today. So of course I'm at a stage where I don't
need any epoxy today. Will probably go and make some sawcuts or
something.
computer. Are you a former software person who retired early? Do you
ever sleep?
I find my building goes much too slow with all the distractions, even
tho I'm out of a job right now. (anyone in Boston area need some
mechanical design/engineering help?)
BTW, Soling 1M is ok, but US1M is much more fun. OTOH, you will only
need one rig even on windy days. I've wondered how much a sharpie
version would give up in performance. I'm trying (and maybe failing)
to give up this new, additional hobby (boats are already behind model
planes).
It's very warm here today. So of course I'm at a stage where I don't
need any epoxy today. Will probably go and make some sawcuts or
something.
--- In bolger@y..., "futabachan" <futabachan@y...> wrote:
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> The real answer is that I'm building a Layden Paradox. snip have
fallen in love with the Windsprint, snip
> The Paradox may turn out to be a warmup for the construction of
> some larger vessel snip
> I've got the beginnings of a Tortoise started in my basement,
> Tortoises and Frosties being about the limit of what I could
> extract up the basement steps. snip
>
> Oh, and I just discovered that there's a local Soling One Meter
> radio-controlled fleet; snip building, which I'll probably take a
> weekend or two to do at some point between now and the start of
> the season.
>
> -- Sue --
> (yes, the building bug has bit me pretty hard :-) )
>
> --
> Susan Davis <futabachan@y...>
> Sue, what are you building? When this horrible northern weatherThe real answer is that I'm building a Layden Paradox. I've been
> permits, although it's been a heck of a warm one, but still too
> cool for outdoor epoxy up here.
reading _New Instant Boats_ a bit too much lately, though, and
have fallen in love with the Windsprint, and plan to build one
as a warmup for the Paradox project, as a testbed for the Paradox
spars and sail, and as a tutorial in framed construction and
glass layup techniques. That'll give me something to sail while
I'm finishing the Paradox, and be a useful supplement to the
Paradox for camp cruising along the Erie Canal, up in Algonquin
Park, and similar places. It looks like the Windsprint ought to
be portageable; has anyone ever tried building in a suspension
system?
The Paradox may turn out to be a warmup for the construction of
some larger vessel that I could live aboard, if I still have the
itch at that point. I've been looking longingly at the Breakdown
Schooner for years; if I can figure out a better way to join the
three sections together, that'll be the one.
While I'm waiting for it to get nice enough to build the Windsprint,
I've got the beginnings of a Tortoise started in my basement,
Tortoises and Frosties being about the limit of what I could
extract up the basement steps. The Breakdown Schooner plans call
for a Tortoise as the tender and include on-deck storage space,
so building the Tortoise feels a bit like putting a down payment
on the big schooner.
Oh, and I just discovered that there's a local Soling One Meter
radio-controlled fleet; I've had a kit lying around for years that
I've never gotten around to building, which I'll probably take a
weekend or two to do at some point between now and the start of
the season.
-- Sue --
(yes, the building bug has bit me pretty hard :-) )
--
Susan Davis <futabachan@...>
> Hoping you do not let the house own you! (I've spent as much asIronically, part of the reason why I bought this particular house
> 40 hours during a working week doing additional work on this house
> and I hate it.)
is that it's in immaculate shape, and doesn't need lots of work.
But when I tried to put in DirecTV last month, I discovered that
there was no phone extension up in the finished attic that I'm
using as a game room/family room/hangout space to hook the receiver
up to. I asked a friend for advice, and we got to brainstorming,
and the project grew to the point of ripping off two walls in
order to wire the whole house with network cable, phone extensions,
whole-house audio cable, and to add a new circuit and some outlets
in the office to give my servers enough clean power. (You should
see HER house.... :-) )
The punchline: after we'd already ripped the walls off and spent
a Saturday running conduit, we discovered that there WAS an attic
extension after all -- the cord for it had just been balled up and
tossed in the back of a closet.
Punchline #2: I wound up not getting DirecTV because there are
too many trees along the south edge of my property.
Punchline #3: I use an 802.11-enabled laptop.
I think we have about one more Saturday worth of work (hanging
drywall) and a handful of evenings. The other project, which
needs to wait until the ground unfreezes, will be to run power
(and data) out to the gara^H^H^H^Hboat shop; after that, I think
I'll be done for a while.
-- Sue --
(I hope!)
--
Susan Davis <futabachan@...>
Our weather is similar, actually. I did indeed finish that seam. By
the time I finished yesterday, it was something like 48 degrees F in
there, but when I went in today the epoxy was only a little soft. I
suppose getting light in the garage might be a problem. Propane
lantern might almost be bright enough but you'd have to keep the doors
open as I understand that hydrocarbon fumes are not good for the
epoxy.
Hoping you do not let the house own you! (I've spent as much as 40
hours during a working week doing additional work on this house and I
hate it.)
Good luck with your project.
the time I finished yesterday, it was something like 48 degrees F in
there, but when I went in today the epoxy was only a little soft. I
suppose getting light in the garage might be a problem. Propane
lantern might almost be bright enough but you'd have to keep the doors
open as I understand that hydrocarbon fumes are not good for the
epoxy.
Hoping you do not let the house own you! (I've spent as much as 40
hours during a working week doing additional work on this house and I
hate it.)
Good luck with your project.
--- In bolger@y..., "futabachan" <futabachan@y...> wrote:
> > If you are south of me (Waltham, MA, USA), you ought to be able
> > to get some epoxy to cure. Have had 3 or 4 successful building
> > sessions using Raka with fast hardener this month.
>
> Alas, I'm in Rochester, NY. The temperature is in the 50's today,
> but it gets down to freezing at night, and we're expecting a
> winter storm on Wednesday. The other variable is that I don't
> have any power out in the garage, and won't until spring comes
> and some friends of mine can dig me a trench....
>
> -- Sue --
> (and I really ought to finish a couple of house projects first)
>
> --
> Susan Davis <futabachan@y...>
Sue, what are you building? When this horrible northern weather
permits, although it's been a heck of a warm one, but still too cool
for outdoor epoxy up here.
Bruce Hector
Kingston, ON
www.brucesboats.com
permits, although it's been a heck of a warm one, but still too cool
for outdoor epoxy up here.
Bruce Hector
Kingston, ON
www.brucesboats.com
> If you are south of me (Waltham, MA, USA), you ought to be ableAlas, I'm in Rochester, NY. The temperature is in the 50's today,
> to get some epoxy to cure. Have had 3 or 4 successful building
> sessions using Raka with fast hardener this month.
but it gets down to freezing at night, and we're expecting a
winter storm on Wednesday. The other variable is that I don't
have any power out in the garage, and won't until spring comes
and some friends of mine can dig me a trench....
-- Sue --
(and I really ought to finish a couple of house projects first)
--
Susan Davis <futabachan@...>
If you are south of me (Waltham, MA, USA), you ought to be able to get
some epoxy to cure. Have had 3 or 4 successful building sessions using
Raka with fast hardener this month. Hoping for another today, if I can
get a bunch of niggly real world stuff done quickly first. Last seam,
and the rest is minor sanding and detail stuff.
some epoxy to cure. Have had 3 or 4 successful building sessions using
Raka with fast hardener this month. Hoping for another today, if I can
get a bunch of niggly real world stuff done quickly first. Last seam,
and the rest is minor sanding and detail stuff.
--- In bolger@y..., "futabachan" <futabachan@y...> wrote:
snip
>
> -- Sue --
> (waiting for the weather to get warm enough for epoxy to cure out
> in the garage overnight so I can start Windsprinting)
>
> --
> Susan Davis <futabachan@y...>
> A fleet of Windsprints is beautiful. I will post some pictures myWe can, if other people bring Windsprints. :-)
> daughter took at Mahone Bay 2000 of the Bolger Fleet (I was busy
> racing my June Bug). Can we race little Bolger boats at Gloucester
> in August?
-- Sue --
(waiting for the weather to get warm enough for epoxy to cure out
in the garage overnight so I can start Windsprinting)
--
Susan Davis <futabachan@...>
Lots of good advice. Just sold the '76 Ford because it cost 3 times
as much for only 1/10 the miles.
A fleet of Windsprints is beautiful. I will post some pictures my
daughter took at Mahone Bay 2000 of the Bolger Fleet (I was busy
racing my June Bug). Can we race little Bolger boats at Gloucester
in August?
Phil Lea
Russellville, AR.
as much for only 1/10 the miles.
A fleet of Windsprints is beautiful. I will post some pictures my
daughter took at Mahone Bay 2000 of the Bolger Fleet (I was busy
racing my June Bug). Can we race little Bolger boats at Gloucester
in August?
Phil Lea
Russellville, AR.
--- In bolger@y..., teakdeck@a... wrote:
> In my opinion Windsprint is a great boat. You must keep in mind,
however,
> that it will spill eventually and it is not easy to recover. The
boat fills
> up with water, a lot of it!
In my opinion Windsprint is a great boat. You must keep in mind, however,
that it will spill eventually and it is not easy to recover. The boat fills
up with water, a lot of it!
I dumped mine one day, AT THE DOCK. This is more a coment on me than the
boat, but even in that situation it was a lot of work to empty the boat out.
I had large beach ball type things stuffed in each end of the boat for
flotation. It was useles. I think one should keep this in mind before when
you plan to go camping with three people.
Mike Masten
In a message dated 2/22/02 8:49:40 PM,marka@...writes:
that it will spill eventually and it is not easy to recover. The boat fills
up with water, a lot of it!
I dumped mine one day, AT THE DOCK. This is more a coment on me than the
boat, but even in that situation it was a lot of work to empty the boat out.
I had large beach ball type things stuffed in each end of the boat for
flotation. It was useles. I think one should keep this in mind before when
you plan to go camping with three people.
Mike Masten
In a message dated 2/22/02 8:49:40 PM,marka@...writes:
>Phil,
>
>
>
>I built a Windsprint because it was the very largest boat I
>
>could imagine cartopped. It is great alone or with a friend
>
>to spend an afternoon. Even with the ends closed in, the
>
>frameless sprawl space seems enormous -until loading all the
>
>stuff it takes to spend an overnight.
>
>
>
>For three to camp in, it still could be too modest, not
>
>improving on the Junebug much ( though people have done
>
>worse ). The first thing that comes to mind that might feel
>
>a little looser is the 20' Zephyr. But there's lots to
>
>choose from in the up to 500# range.
>
>
>
>Mark
>
>
>
>
>
>phillip_lea wrote:
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> My thoughts run the other direction. My June Bug is too
>
>> small so I
>
>> am going to build bigger. But when Jim Michalak told me
>
>> that a fully
>
>> loaded Norm's Boat would push the 1000 pound limit of my
>
>> tow vehicle
>
>> (my Ford, Escort may have trouble pulling out at the
>
>> ramp),
>
>> postponement of anything "that" large was in order. Now
>
>> I am back
>
>> to thoughts of a more capable (sea/lakeworthy)
>
>> Windsprint—a micro
>
>> camping daysailer where my wife and daughter can keep
>
>> their seats dry
>
>> on a blustery day. Buying a new tow vehicle is a way to
>
>> really push
>
>> up the cost of a plywood boat.
>
>>
>
>> Keep it simple, light, and cheap.
>
>>
>
>> Phil Lea
>
>> Russellville
Phil,
I built a Windsprint because it was the very largest boat I
could imagine cartopped. It is great alone or with a friend
to spend an afternoon. Even with the ends closed in, the
frameless sprawl space seems enormous -until loading all the
stuff it takes to spend an overnight.
For three to camp in, it still could be too modest, not
improving on the Junebug much ( though people have done
worse ). The first thing that comes to mind that might feel
a little looser is the 20' Zephyr. But there's lots to
choose from in the up to 500# range.
Mark
phillip_lea wrote:
I built a Windsprint because it was the very largest boat I
could imagine cartopped. It is great alone or with a friend
to spend an afternoon. Even with the ends closed in, the
frameless sprawl space seems enormous -until loading all the
stuff it takes to spend an overnight.
For three to camp in, it still could be too modest, not
improving on the Junebug much ( though people have done
worse ). The first thing that comes to mind that might feel
a little looser is the 20' Zephyr. But there's lots to
choose from in the up to 500# range.
Mark
phillip_lea wrote:
>
>
> My thoughts run the other direction. My June Bug is too
> small so I
> am going to build bigger. But when Jim Michalak told me
> that a fully
> loaded Norm's Boat would push the 1000 pound limit of my
> tow vehicle
> (my Ford, Escort may have trouble pulling out at the
> ramp),
> postponement of anything "that" large was in order. Now
> I am back
> to thoughts of a more capable (sea/lakeworthy)
> Windsprinta micro
> camping daysailer where my wife and daughter can keep
> their seats dry
> on a blustery day. Buying a new tow vehicle is a way to
> really push
> up the cost of a plywood boat.
>
> Keep it simple, light, and cheap.
>
> Phil Lea
> Russellville
>