Re: [bolger] Re: Windsprint rig
I would even suggest that you buy the $200 sailboat
plans. There three sail rigs dimensioned and discussed
with plans for all three. There is a lot of info there for
the $20 plan cost.
James
plans. There three sail rigs dimensioned and discussed
with plans for all three. There is a lot of info there for
the $20 plan cost.
James
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From: "Mark Albanese" <marka@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 6:00 PM
Subject: [bolger] Re: Windsprint rig
> Sure. Dave Carnell's $200 sailboat plans show a lateen on a
> very similar hull. The Bolger Zephyr has a nicely detailed,
> <> 80' boomed lateen that would probably allow a completely
> flat cut polytarp sail. The 60 sq. ft. Instant Boat Rig
> would be a natural if you don't mind having the mast moved
> back. Craig O'Donnel's Cheap Pages have some plans for
> sharpie sprit, lug and batwing sails you might find
> interesting. William Atkin sometimes had a ( two masts with
> triangular sails ) 'pirogue' rig in flat bottomed boats
> that size.
>
> The trick here is to get the 'lead' right in order to give
> you just the right amount of weather helm. Conventional
> wisdom has been to have the sail's center of effort a little
> forward of the center of lateral plane. ( your daggerboard
> ) One advantage of the balanced lug is said to be that
> relationship doesn't change much as the sail is reefed. Jim
> Michalak speculates the rule of thumb was developed for
> other types of boats, so, if I remember correctly, in
> flatties he centers them right in line.
>
> To fiddlefun much with sails, it would pay to read all Jim's
> got to say on them. You can pick it out from the
> alphabetical index at his site.
>
> Enjoy,
> Mark
>
>
> loyseal1 wrote:
> >
> > Are there additional rigs which will work with Windsprint.
> > I am not
> > against the balanced lug rig, I was just wondering if
> > there are
> > additional rigs such as a gaff or sprit rig which will
> > work. I am
> > trying to learn the relationship between the rig and the
> > the boat
> > type, a dory in this case. What about a different rig type
> > for a
> > catboat?
> > Thanks for any insights.
> > Loy Seal
> > New Orleans
>
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I built and sailed a Windsprint which I am currently converting to a
trimaran. I have used the designed sail and I used a polytarp lateen sail of
about 75 sq. ft. The lateen sail was, in my opinion, much easier to handle,
both in a breeze and raising and lowering the sail into the boat. But I think
the ideal rig for Wiindsprint would be one which would easily furl or be
stowed inside the boat so you could row it without the rig being in the way.
I would challenge all Bolger builders to think about a modern rig for these
boats. For example, the Escape series of boats have a separate mast and boom.
The mast of course sticks straight up in the air, but the boom fits into its
own partner and then curves horizontally. This allows the mast to be rolled
up on the mast!
Mike Masten
In a message dated 2/26/02 5:03:32 PM,loyseal1@...writes:
trimaran. I have used the designed sail and I used a polytarp lateen sail of
about 75 sq. ft. The lateen sail was, in my opinion, much easier to handle,
both in a breeze and raising and lowering the sail into the boat. But I think
the ideal rig for Wiindsprint would be one which would easily furl or be
stowed inside the boat so you could row it without the rig being in the way.
I would challenge all Bolger builders to think about a modern rig for these
boats. For example, the Escape series of boats have a separate mast and boom.
The mast of course sticks straight up in the air, but the boom fits into its
own partner and then curves horizontally. This allows the mast to be rolled
up on the mast!
Mike Masten
In a message dated 2/26/02 5:03:32 PM,loyseal1@...writes:
>Are there additional rigs which will work with Windsprint. I am not
>against the balanced lug rig, I was just wondering if there are
>additional rigs such as a gaff or sprit rig which will work. I am
>trying to learn the relationship between the rig and the the boat
>type, a dory in this case. What about a different rig type for a
>catboat?
>Thanks for any insights.
>Loy Seal
>New Orleans
Loy,
And if the lateen appeals to you, don't miss
http://www.instantboats.com/pirateboat.htm
It's almost the same size. If you have Boats With An Open
Mind, you may study the lovely, ultralight yard.
Phil Bolger's 'Jinni' is again a 16' flat model and has his
"favorite rig," the Cat Yawl.
Mark
And if the lateen appeals to you, don't miss
http://www.instantboats.com/pirateboat.htm
It's almost the same size. If you have Boats With An Open
Mind, you may study the lovely, ultralight yard.
Phil Bolger's 'Jinni' is again a 16' flat model and has his
"favorite rig," the Cat Yawl.
Mark
Sure. Dave Carnell's $200 sailboat plans show a lateen on a
very similar hull. The Bolger Zephyr has a nicely detailed,
<> 80' boomed lateen that would probably allow a completely
flat cut polytarp sail. The 60 sq. ft. Instant Boat Rig
would be a natural if you don't mind having the mast moved
back. Craig O'Donnel's Cheap Pages have some plans for
sharpie sprit, lug and batwing sails you might find
interesting. William Atkin sometimes had a ( two masts with
triangular sails ) 'pirogue' rig in flat bottomed boats
that size.
The trick here is to get the 'lead' right in order to give
you just the right amount of weather helm. Conventional
wisdom has been to have the sail's center of effort a little
forward of the center of lateral plane. ( your daggerboard
) One advantage of the balanced lug is said to be that
relationship doesn't change much as the sail is reefed. Jim
Michalak speculates the rule of thumb was developed for
other types of boats, so, if I remember correctly, in
flatties he centers them right in line.
To fiddlefun much with sails, it would pay to read all Jim's
got to say on them. You can pick it out from the
alphabetical index at his site.
Enjoy,
Mark
loyseal1 wrote:
very similar hull. The Bolger Zephyr has a nicely detailed,
<> 80' boomed lateen that would probably allow a completely
flat cut polytarp sail. The 60 sq. ft. Instant Boat Rig
would be a natural if you don't mind having the mast moved
back. Craig O'Donnel's Cheap Pages have some plans for
sharpie sprit, lug and batwing sails you might find
interesting. William Atkin sometimes had a ( two masts with
triangular sails ) 'pirogue' rig in flat bottomed boats
that size.
The trick here is to get the 'lead' right in order to give
you just the right amount of weather helm. Conventional
wisdom has been to have the sail's center of effort a little
forward of the center of lateral plane. ( your daggerboard
) One advantage of the balanced lug is said to be that
relationship doesn't change much as the sail is reefed. Jim
Michalak speculates the rule of thumb was developed for
other types of boats, so, if I remember correctly, in
flatties he centers them right in line.
To fiddlefun much with sails, it would pay to read all Jim's
got to say on them. You can pick it out from the
alphabetical index at his site.
Enjoy,
Mark
loyseal1 wrote:
>
> Are there additional rigs which will work with Windsprint.
> I am not
> against the balanced lug rig, I was just wondering if
> there are
> additional rigs such as a gaff or sprit rig which will
> work. I am
> trying to learn the relationship between the rig and the
> the boat
> type, a dory in this case. What about a different rig type
> for a
> catboat?
> Thanks for any insights.
> Loy Seal
> New Orleans
Are there additional rigs which will work with Windsprint. I am not
against the balanced lug rig, I was just wondering if there are
additional rigs such as a gaff or sprit rig which will work. I am
trying to learn the relationship between the rig and the the boat
type, a dory in this case. What about a different rig type for a
catboat?
Thanks for any insights.
Loy Seal
New Orleans
against the balanced lug rig, I was just wondering if there are
additional rigs such as a gaff or sprit rig which will work. I am
trying to learn the relationship between the rig and the the boat
type, a dory in this case. What about a different rig type for a
catboat?
Thanks for any insights.
Loy Seal
New Orleans