[bolger] Re: AF2 sailing report, 2
Used a two part sheet this time instead of a three, much less rope to
mess with, a little harder to hold onto. I'm thinking some kind of jam
or cam cleat on the tiller, keeping the sheet in hand but having the
cleat take the tension? Suggestions?
on my Cheap Pages are "DIY Cleats".
One style is the "Butler Cleat" (a jam cleat) which is still around in
plastic. Mine's nicer. Super easy to make. One turn around the end and
under the jamming part. Releases easily.
Designed by ace canoe racer Paul Butler in the 1880s or 90s for sailing
canoes, which were sailed solo with cleated sheets back then, capsize
prevention being tiller + sliding seat though they capsized a lot back
then it seems.
Also there are three or four drawings of pins-through-thwarts ideas and
such as used by various traditional small boat sailors for the sheet.
The trick is to bind the end under itself, and keep the bitter end in
your hand. One yank and the sheet is free.
So normally you would not cleat a sheet in the normal sense of putting
a line on a cleat, but there are ways to take up the strain with a pin
or butler cleat and keep the end in hand in case of trouble. The whole
key is to make sure the sheet will not catch on anything when released!
I can also tell you in very light wind in the summer on the Chesapeake,
small boats sail better if the sheet is jammed and you let her look
after herself rather than jiggering away on sheet and tiller.
mess with, a little harder to hold onto. I'm thinking some kind of jam
or cam cleat on the tiller, keeping the sheet in hand but having the
cleat take the tension? Suggestions?
>>Richard,
on my Cheap Pages are "DIY Cleats".
One style is the "Butler Cleat" (a jam cleat) which is still around in
plastic. Mine's nicer. Super easy to make. One turn around the end and
under the jamming part. Releases easily.
Designed by ace canoe racer Paul Butler in the 1880s or 90s for sailing
canoes, which were sailed solo with cleated sheets back then, capsize
prevention being tiller + sliding seat though they capsized a lot back
then it seems.
Also there are three or four drawings of pins-through-thwarts ideas and
such as used by various traditional small boat sailors for the sheet.
The trick is to bind the end under itself, and keep the bitter end in
your hand. One yank and the sheet is free.
So normally you would not cleat a sheet in the normal sense of putting
a line on a cleat, but there are ways to take up the strain with a pin
or butler cleat and keep the end in hand in case of trouble. The whole
key is to make sure the sheet will not catch on anything when released!
I can also tell you in very light wind in the summer on the Chesapeake,
small boats sail better if the sheet is jammed and you let her look
after herself rather than jiggering away on sheet and tiller.
Robert N. Lundy wrote:
wind while I raised sail, or vise versa. My crew today were more
passengers... I was happy that I got them to sit on the windward side of
the boat!
talking to any of the computers any more... I'll take it back as soon as
I find the receipt. Hopefully I won't loose the pictures.
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>Thanks.
> Great report Richard!
>
> One question: Why tie the boat to a fixed mark to raise sail? Wouldn't yourIt probably would, if any of the crew was competent to hold her head to
> elec motor hold the boat head to wind while you got up the mizzen?
wind while I raised sail, or vise versa. My crew today were more
passengers... I was happy that I got them to sit on the windward side of
the boat!
>I have a bunch in the digital camera, but it has decided it's not
> We desparately need sailing pictures!
>
talking to any of the computers any more... I'll take it back as soon as
I find the receipt. Hopefully I won't loose the pictures.
--
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Great report Richard!
One question: Why tie the boat to a fixed mark to raise sail? Wouldn't your
elec motor hold the boat head to wind while you got up the mizzen?
We desparately need sailing pictures!
Robert & Amy Lundy
St. Petersburg, fla.
robert@...
amy@...
One question: Why tie the boat to a fixed mark to raise sail? Wouldn't your
elec motor hold the boat head to wind while you got up the mizzen?
We desparately need sailing pictures!
Robert & Amy Lundy
St. Petersburg, fla.
robert@...
amy@...
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Spelling [mailto:richard@...]
> Sent: January 16, 2000 8:21 PM
> To: Jim Michalak;bolger@egroups.com
> Subject: [bolger] AF2 sailing report, 2
>
>
> Me and three of the brats went out today in Entropy, high sixties,
> breeze 10 gusting to 15.
>
> Luckily, the wind was parallel to the shore, so I didn't have quite the
> interesting time I did on the initial launch, with the ramp on a lee
> shore, and the wind gusting to 35...
>
> Anyway, tied her to a post on the beach, pointed into the wind, and
> hoisted sail. No reefs this time, and pulled the trolling motor up so it
> wouldn't drag this time.
>
> Dropped rudder, pushed off, backed her around, and started on a run
> parallel to the shore and angling away. Leeboard wouldn't yank down till
> we got into water a little deeper, then it went down just fine.
>
> Held the run strait out of the cove and about halfway across the lake,
> then headed up and started beating back up the islet. Pointed much
> higher than with both reefs in. Sail shape wasn't to pretty, and
> according to the streamers the airflow was pretty awful, but this didn't
> seem to affect her pointing ability. Forgot to look at the compass, but
> going by the unscientific method of observing a landmark directly off
> the beam just prior to tacking, she seemed to tack at least five to 10
> degrees less than 90.
>
> Made good progress to windward, didn't have any trouble with her getting
> caught up in stays, good helm response.
>
> Used a two part sheet this time instead of a three, much less rope to
> mess with, a little harder to hold onto. I'm thinking some kind of jam
> or cam cleat on the tiller, keeping the sheet in hand but having the
> cleat take the tension? Suggestions?
>
> Went up another cove, then had a nice reach back to the ramp.
> Interesting sloshing sounds from the leeboard at speed.
>
> Trolling motor will push her fine, but will take some practice in order
> to drive her onto the trailer.
>
> I'm very happy with the boat, and as soon as I get the hang of shaping
> the sail, I'll bet she will hold her own with the tupperware boats.
> --
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Enjoyed reading your cruise report but at a loss--what is a bolger AF2??
And where are you sailing it. I've built a long micro and have reconditioned
an old shoe. Also have Commodore's Egret replica at 28'--a cat ketch gaff
rigged.
And where are you sailing it. I've built a long micro and have reconditioned
an old shoe. Also have Commodore's Egret replica at 28'--a cat ketch gaff
rigged.
Me and three of the brats went out today in Entropy, high sixties,
breeze 10 gusting to 15.
Luckily, the wind was parallel to the shore, so I didn't have quite the
interesting time I did on the initial launch, with the ramp on a lee
shore, and the wind gusting to 35...
Anyway, tied her to a post on the beach, pointed into the wind, and
hoisted sail. No reefs this time, and pulled the trolling motor up so it
wouldn't drag this time.
Dropped rudder, pushed off, backed her around, and started on a run
parallel to the shore and angling away. Leeboard wouldn't yank down till
we got into water a little deeper, then it went down just fine.
Held the run strait out of the cove and about halfway across the lake,
then headed up and started beating back up the islet. Pointed much
higher than with both reefs in. Sail shape wasn't to pretty, and
according to the streamers the airflow was pretty awful, but this didn't
seem to affect her pointing ability. Forgot to look at the compass, but
going by the unscientific method of observing a landmark directly off
the beam just prior to tacking, she seemed to tack at least five to 10
degrees less than 90.
Made good progress to windward, didn't have any trouble with her getting
caught up in stays, good helm response.
Used a two part sheet this time instead of a three, much less rope to
mess with, a little harder to hold onto. I'm thinking some kind of jam
or cam cleat on the tiller, keeping the sheet in hand but having the
cleat take the tension? Suggestions?
Went up another cove, then had a nice reach back to the ramp.
Interesting sloshing sounds from the leeboard at speed.
Trolling motor will push her fine, but will take some practice in order
to drive her onto the trailer.
I'm very happy with the boat, and as soon as I get the hang of shaping
the sail, I'll bet she will hold her own with the tupperware boats.
--
Richard
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Beyond!
Boat building projects:http://www.spellingbusiness.com/boats/
breeze 10 gusting to 15.
Luckily, the wind was parallel to the shore, so I didn't have quite the
interesting time I did on the initial launch, with the ramp on a lee
shore, and the wind gusting to 35...
Anyway, tied her to a post on the beach, pointed into the wind, and
hoisted sail. No reefs this time, and pulled the trolling motor up so it
wouldn't drag this time.
Dropped rudder, pushed off, backed her around, and started on a run
parallel to the shore and angling away. Leeboard wouldn't yank down till
we got into water a little deeper, then it went down just fine.
Held the run strait out of the cove and about halfway across the lake,
then headed up and started beating back up the islet. Pointed much
higher than with both reefs in. Sail shape wasn't to pretty, and
according to the streamers the airflow was pretty awful, but this didn't
seem to affect her pointing ability. Forgot to look at the compass, but
going by the unscientific method of observing a landmark directly off
the beam just prior to tacking, she seemed to tack at least five to 10
degrees less than 90.
Made good progress to windward, didn't have any trouble with her getting
caught up in stays, good helm response.
Used a two part sheet this time instead of a three, much less rope to
mess with, a little harder to hold onto. I'm thinking some kind of jam
or cam cleat on the tiller, keeping the sheet in hand but having the
cleat take the tension? Suggestions?
Went up another cove, then had a nice reach back to the ramp.
Interesting sloshing sounds from the leeboard at speed.
Trolling motor will push her fine, but will take some practice in order
to drive her onto the trailer.
I'm very happy with the boat, and as soon as I get the hang of shaping
the sail, I'll bet she will hold her own with the tupperware boats.
--
Richard
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SBE Communications, Business Solutions for the next Millennium and
Beyond!
Boat building projects:http://www.spellingbusiness.com/boats/