Re: Digest Number 903
No kidding, but the Niagara gorge has been successfully run several
times by a group from the AWA circa 1986 or 1987. In that group, they
paddled a wide variety of craft from Risa Shimoda-Callaway and
Forrest Callaway in squirt boats, to Nolan Whitesell in an open
canoe. Nolan always tends to describe things in an understated way,
but you could tell he was in awe of this stretch of water. It sounded
like fun if you had the guts to pull the trigger and peel out of that
first eddy. YeeeeHaaaw!
From what I've seen of it from the foot bridge near the Whirlpool, it
is solid class V+(VI). Not technicaly demanding, but a real chance of
flush drowning if you lost control and swam.
Definitely not runnable in a Windsprint!
JB (who used to paddle class V stuff before he discovered
boatbuilding.)
times by a group from the AWA circa 1986 or 1987. In that group, they
paddled a wide variety of craft from Risa Shimoda-Callaway and
Forrest Callaway in squirt boats, to Nolan Whitesell in an open
canoe. Nolan always tends to describe things in an understated way,
but you could tell he was in awe of this stretch of water. It sounded
like fun if you had the guts to pull the trigger and peel out of that
first eddy. YeeeeHaaaw!
From what I've seen of it from the foot bridge near the Whirlpool, it
is solid class V+(VI). Not technicaly demanding, but a real chance of
flush drowning if you lost control and swam.
Definitely not runnable in a Windsprint!
JB (who used to paddle class V stuff before he discovered
boatbuilding.)
--- In bolger@y..., "dickpilz" <dickpilz@g...> wrote:
The Niagra River would probably be a
> Western Class 20 and and definitely an Eastern Class VI :-)
>
> Dick
>
The rating system difference applies only to the overall _river_. An
individual Class IV is still the same anywhere.
To illustrate, the Deschutes River (just 2 hours from me in Portland,
OR) has several Class IV and V. One Class V is named Shearas _Falls_,
so that should give you an idea of its severity. The Western _River_
rating is Class 10, because of the number of high class rapids. The
Eastern _River_ rating would be Class V, whether there is only one
Class V or in this case several. The Niagra River would probably be a
Western Class 20 and and definitely an Eastern Class VI :-)
Dick
individual Class IV is still the same anywhere.
To illustrate, the Deschutes River (just 2 hours from me in Portland,
OR) has several Class IV and V. One Class V is named Shearas _Falls_,
so that should give you an idea of its severity. The Western _River_
rating is Class 10, because of the number of high class rapids. The
Eastern _River_ rating would be Class V, whether there is only one
Class V or in this case several. The Niagra River would probably be a
Western Class 20 and and definitely an Eastern Class VI :-)
Dick
--- In bolger@y..., LJGeib@a... wrote:
> Eastern Class IV or western? different rating systems, I think.
>
> In a message dated 3/7/02 2:58:45 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> bolger@y... writes:
>
>
> > ,
> >
> > I spent a lot of time paddling class IV and V whitewater. I'd
expect
> > you'd need to be pretty sharp to keep a teal or windsprint from
> > swamping in class II rapids. My teal is a bitch with even a
modest
> > amount of water in her. As a point of reference, out West we have
> > something called a McKinzey Drift Boat -- more or less a dory
that
> > we'd use to fish rivers like the Rogue or Klamath (or McKinzey).
More
> > flare, rocker and freeboard than a teal or windsprint. Class III
is
> > about the limit with those boats. Hotshots run class IV and
sometimes
> > make it.
> >
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Eastern Class IV or western? different rating systems, I think.
In a message dated 3/7/02 2:58:45 PM Pacific Standard Time,
bolger@yahoogroups.comwrites:
In a message dated 3/7/02 2:58:45 PM Pacific Standard Time,
bolger@yahoogroups.comwrites:
> ,[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> I spent a lot of time paddling class IV and V whitewater. I'd expect
> you'd need to be pretty sharp to keep a teal or windsprint from
> swamping in class II rapids. My teal is a bitch with even a modest
> amount of water in her. As a point of reference, out West we have
> something called a McKinzey Drift Boat -- more or less a dory that
> we'd use to fish rivers like the Rogue or Klamath (or McKinzey). More
> flare, rocker and freeboard than a teal or windsprint. Class III is
> about the limit with those boats. Hotshots run class IV and sometimes
> make it.
>
how about :
D) cut slot, put in vinyl or pvc tubing, snake wires later?
Larry
In a message dated 3/7/02 2:58:45 PM Pacific Standard Time,
bolger@yahoogroups.comwrites:
D) cut slot, put in vinyl or pvc tubing, snake wires later?
Larry
In a message dated 3/7/02 2:58:45 PM Pacific Standard Time,
bolger@yahoogroups.comwrites:
> I'm building a wooden mast for my CLC.[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> Was thinking of running the wires for the masthead light up the
> center of the mast, when I put the thing together.
>
> several options:
>
> 1) cut slot, fix wires in epoxy.
> pro - easy construction. simple
> con - maybe fixing wires permanently will cause problems when
> mast expands and contracts with the weather?
> 2) cut slot, leave wires free in it
> pro - elminates issue with wires breaking because mast expanded
> con - would be difficult to do this without getting epoxy on the
> wires.
> 3) cut slot, put in wires, fill slot with silicone
> pro - wires sort of free to move
> con - extra work
>
> Any thoughts? Anyone?
>