Re: cartoppable beach boat
Yes, but he accomplished it by lowering the ends instead of raising
the middle. I don't think there is a whole lot of "surf" in the
midwest.
the middle. I don't think there is a whole lot of "surf" in the
midwest.
--- In bolger@y..., "jmbell1" <jmbell@m...> wrote:
> Already been done by Michalak. See his "Sportdory" at Duckworks.
> JB
> --- In bolger@y..., "rnlocnil" <lincolnr@m...> wrote:
> > HOw about a light dory or variant with less sheer so that it
> cartops
> > better? Especially if made with good, light plywood. Of course it
> > won't sail, but I'd think it would meet your other req'ts.
> >
> >
Already been done by Michalak. See his "Sportdory" at Duckworks.
JB
JB
--- In bolger@y..., "rnlocnil" <lincolnr@m...> wrote:
> HOw about a light dory or variant with less sheer so that it
cartops
> better? Especially if made with good, light plywood. Of course it
> won't sail, but I'd think it would meet your other req'ts.
>
>
emmm. sounds like the "pirogue" I made...
--- In bolger@y..., "rnlocnil" <lincolnr@m...> wrote:
> HOw about a light dory or variant with less sheer so that it
cartops
> better? Especially if made with good, light plywood. Of course it
> won't sail, but I'd think it would meet your other req'ts.
>
> Not sure what's so icky about glass and epoxy? Between careful
> planning and use of a scraper, you can probably avoid the worst
> feature: sanding. In that case, one of the projects I've been
> considering might be applicable. I've been thinking (among other
> possibilities including holding off building for a while) of a
> stripped out Sweet Pea made with nice, light plywood. And then
there's
> Cartopper.
>
> BTW, hope to use the Brick more this year. Only a little use last
year
> due to injury.
> --- In bolger@y..., "owlnmole" <mlong@c...> wrote:
> > Since I'm here, I have a question of my own for the group.
> snip
> > Here's what I'm thinking
> >
> > row or paddle
> > able to handle some surf
> > cartoppable by one person (my wife will be chasing our 2-year old)
> > carry at least 1 adult, 1 child (ideally more)
> > optional sail rig
> > instant boat construction (no icky fiberglass)
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> > Matthew Long
> > Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic
HOw about a light dory or variant with less sheer so that it cartops
better? Especially if made with good, light plywood. Of course it
won't sail, but I'd think it would meet your other req'ts.
Not sure what's so icky about glass and epoxy? Between careful
planning and use of a scraper, you can probably avoid the worst
feature: sanding. In that case, one of the projects I've been
considering might be applicable. I've been thinking (among other
possibilities including holding off building for a while) of a
stripped out Sweet Pea made with nice, light plywood. And then there's
Cartopper.
BTW, hope to use the Brick more this year. Only a little use last year
due to injury.
better? Especially if made with good, light plywood. Of course it
won't sail, but I'd think it would meet your other req'ts.
Not sure what's so icky about glass and epoxy? Between careful
planning and use of a scraper, you can probably avoid the worst
feature: sanding. In that case, one of the projects I've been
considering might be applicable. I've been thinking (among other
possibilities including holding off building for a while) of a
stripped out Sweet Pea made with nice, light plywood. And then there's
Cartopper.
BTW, hope to use the Brick more this year. Only a little use last year
due to injury.
--- In bolger@y..., "owlnmole" <mlong@c...> wrote:
> Since I'm here, I have a question of my own for the group.
snip
> Here's what I'm thinking
>
> row or paddle
> able to handle some surf
> cartoppable by one person (my wife will be chasing our 2-year old)
> carry at least 1 adult, 1 child (ideally more)
> optional sail rig
> instant boat construction (no icky fiberglass)
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Matthew Long
> Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic
>row or paddleI keep my teal at the beach here in Montauk and use it for sailing
>able to handle some surf
>cartoppable by one person (my wife will be chasing our 2-year old)
>carry at least 1 adult, 1 child (ideally more)
>optional sail rig
>instant boat construction (no icky fiberglass)
and fishing (sometimes both at the same time!)
I regularly launch and retrieve single handed through 1-2 foot waves,
using the oars to get me past the breakers and than sailing away. The
prevailing onshore Summer breeze allows me to sail right onto the
beach, sometimes even surfing a wave in.
I only go out with my daughter when the chance of getting caught by a
wave near shore is very, very remote. It's one thing to get dumped in
deep water, that's just scary. Getting dumped in shallow water is
dangerous, even a teal could badly hurt or a child when the boat is
tossed by even small wave in shallow water. (Shallow being defined as
water shallow enough to allow a limb or body to be pinned between the
boat and the bottom.)
The boat rows or sails over green waves very well, but requires some
finesse to get through whitewater from broken waves. The key is to
keep straight into the wave, get the bow up a little, don't go too
fast or the bow can't rise fast enough and you swamp, apply power as
the white water hits to resist being turned, or pushed back.
In calm conditions she'll sail or row nicely with two adults. But
when the sea breeze comes up and starts putting some chop on the
water, sailing with two adult (lower freeboard) get pretty sporting.
If I had to I could get the boat on my car myself. I think it weighs
about 100lbs.
If I was doing it over again, I'd build a surf.
YIBB,
David
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Since I'm here, I have a question of my own for the group.
I came to Santo Domingo with the hope of tackling a modified version
of an existing Bolger design (still hush hush, but you'll all be the
first to know). However, Phil and Susanne are still ruminating on my
commission, and apartment living means that the largish project will
probably have to wait until I have more space to build and store a
boat.
I am corrupting a couple of Dominican and American colleagues into
boatbuilding, and we will likely tackle one of the usual small
subjects--Tortoise, Teal, or Elegant Punt, etc. For myself, I am
trying to decide on small, light boat that I can take to the beach
with my family just to mess about in.
Here's what I'm thinking
row or paddle
able to handle some surf
cartoppable by one person (my wife will be chasing our 2-year old)
carry at least 1 adult, 1 child (ideally more)
optional sail rig
instant boat construction (no icky fiberglass)
Any suggestions?
Matthew Long
Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic
I came to Santo Domingo with the hope of tackling a modified version
of an existing Bolger design (still hush hush, but you'll all be the
first to know). However, Phil and Susanne are still ruminating on my
commission, and apartment living means that the largish project will
probably have to wait until I have more space to build and store a
boat.
I am corrupting a couple of Dominican and American colleagues into
boatbuilding, and we will likely tackle one of the usual small
subjects--Tortoise, Teal, or Elegant Punt, etc. For myself, I am
trying to decide on small, light boat that I can take to the beach
with my family just to mess about in.
Here's what I'm thinking
row or paddle
able to handle some surf
cartoppable by one person (my wife will be chasing our 2-year old)
carry at least 1 adult, 1 child (ideally more)
optional sail rig
instant boat construction (no icky fiberglass)
Any suggestions?
Matthew Long
Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic