Re: Gullapalooza
You might make the epoxy cure faster with heat. It makes a huge
difference. The model airplane guys sometimes put electric blankets
over their projects. I should think one or two would handle a Gull. A
professional builder I know makes a polyethylene tent over his molds
and heats the area to maybe 100 degrees overnight. Probably a real
good idea to evalutate any fire risks, tho. If you're taping the
insides, won't the tape fall away?
On the alignment issue, I wonder if you tacked on large, wide
rectangles of cheap ply or fiberboard type stuff to the gunwhales in
between the forms, if that wouldn't stiffen up the hull sufficiently
to handle. Maybe even tape after removing from form. If you didn't
like adding holes, you could maybe clamp runners to the gunwhales and
tack to that.
difference. The model airplane guys sometimes put electric blankets
over their projects. I should think one or two would handle a Gull. A
professional builder I know makes a polyethylene tent over his molds
and heats the area to maybe 100 degrees overnight. Probably a real
good idea to evalutate any fire risks, tho. If you're taping the
insides, won't the tape fall away?
On the alignment issue, I wonder if you tacked on large, wide
rectangles of cheap ply or fiberboard type stuff to the gunwhales in
between the forms, if that wouldn't stiffen up the hull sufficiently
to handle. Maybe even tape after removing from form. If you didn't
like adding holes, you could maybe clamp runners to the gunwhales and
tack to that.
--- In bolger@y..., "futabachan" <futabachan@y...> wrote:
snip
> which makes leaving a hull on the jig long enough for the chines
> to cure problematic. (Actually, it doesn't, with sufficiently
> clever scheduling, and if you're willing to wait until Tuesday
> for your hull to be completed -- but more on that in email tonight.)
>snip
> I *think* we can get away with this, because I used the same
> system to build a "six-hour" "canoe" several years ago, but we'd
> need to be awfully careful to avoid twisting the hull. Can
> anyone else think of other things that we might do to keep the
> hull true, or other problems with this concept that we've missed?
>
> -- Sue --
> (Hmm. It would probably help if we installed the seats, too, but
> that could be a real bear of a job under the jig.)
>
> --
> Susan Davis <futabachan@y...>
> Sue and I are going to get together over the Memorial Day weekendAnd that's not all we're going to build! *wring hands in evil glee*
> and build a couple of Gulls.
Heh, heh, heh....
Hey Dave, do you want to tell them, or should I? :-)
> Right now we're thinking of using epoxy fillets andWe were discussing this last night, and ran into the problem that
> glass tape in place of the chine logs and stem.
we need to build three hulls in the space of a single weekend,
which makes leaving a hull on the jig long enough for the chines
to cure problematic. (Actually, it doesn't, with sufficiently
clever scheduling, and if you're willing to wait until Tuesday
for your hull to be completed -- but more on that in email tonight.)
However, there's a permanent frame that gets installed just
forward of frame #4 on the jig; if we prefabricated the frame and
installed it with epoxy and screws or nails while the hull is
still upside down on the jig, and possibly the breasthook, too,
we could wait until the epoxy cures "green" and carefully move
the upside-down hull onto a pair of sawhorses while it cures the
rest of the way, leaving the bow and stern wired up. Then when
the chines have finished curing, we could turn the hull over,
and fillet the insides of the chines, stem, and transom joints.
I *think* we can get away with this, because I used the same
system to build a "six-hour" "canoe" several years ago, but we'd
need to be awfully careful to avoid twisting the hull. Can
anyone else think of other things that we might do to keep the
hull true, or other problems with this concept that we've missed?
-- Sue --
(Hmm. It would probably help if we installed the seats, too, but
that could be a real bear of a job under the jig.)
--
Susan Davis <futabachan@...>
> Has anyone had success (or failure) building a gull this way?We just let them hatch from eggs, the regular way.
I've seen a light dory done this way -- not the building but the finished
boat. It was for sale by a professional boatbuilder. I don't know the man
or his other work, but this boat looked good.
Jamie Orr
-----Original Message-----
From: David Ryan [mailto:david@...]
Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 3:33 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Gullapoluza
FBBB --
Sue and I are going to get together over the Memorial Day weekend and
build a couple of Gulls. The idea is that she will cut out the side
panels and haul them to Montauk where I'll have the jig set up and
ready to go. Right now we're thinking of using epoxy fillets and
glass tape in place of the chinelogs and stem.
Has anyone had success (or failure) building a gull this way?
YIBB,
David
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boat. It was for sale by a professional boatbuilder. I don't know the man
or his other work, but this boat looked good.
Jamie Orr
-----Original Message-----
From: David Ryan [mailto:david@...]
Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 3:33 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Gullapoluza
FBBB --
Sue and I are going to get together over the Memorial Day weekend and
build a couple of Gulls. The idea is that she will cut out the side
panels and haul them to Montauk where I'll have the jig set up and
ready to go. Right now we're thinking of using epoxy fillets and
glass tape in place of the chinelogs and stem.
Has anyone had success (or failure) building a gull this way?
YIBB,
David
C.E.P.
415 W.46th Street
New York, New York 10036
http://www.crumblingempire.com
(212) 247-0296
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- add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts, snip all you like
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FBBB --
Sue and I are going to get together over the Memorial Day weekend and
build a couple of Gulls. The idea is that she will cut out the side
panels and haul them to Montauk where I'll have the jig set up and
ready to go. Right now we're thinking of using epoxy fillets and
glass tape in place of the chinelogs and stem.
Has anyone had success (or failure) building a gull this way?
YIBB,
David
C.E.P.
415 W.46th Street
New York, New York 10036
http://www.crumblingempire.com
(212) 247-0296
Sue and I are going to get together over the Memorial Day weekend and
build a couple of Gulls. The idea is that she will cut out the side
panels and haul them to Montauk where I'll have the jig set up and
ready to go. Right now we're thinking of using epoxy fillets and
glass tape in place of the chinelogs and stem.
Has anyone had success (or failure) building a gull this way?
YIBB,
David
C.E.P.
415 W.46th Street
New York, New York 10036
http://www.crumblingempire.com
(212) 247-0296