Re: [bolger] Re: Panga
In a message dated 4/3/02 4:07:32 PM Central Standard Time,
david@...writes:
exactly is a "caravel" or a "cog" or a "galleon".
In approximately 1968 or 1969, I rented what the owner described as a "panga"
for a couple of weeks in the then-sleepy little burg of "Zihuateno" (Sp.) (My
atlas doesn't show it - a nice little bay which at the time was a long day's
drive north of Aculpulco (Sp.) )
The "panga" was a double-ended dug-out canoe of approx. 16' length with a
thole pin on the starboard side forward which, combined with a marlin
lashing, served as a fulcrum to use one of the supplied, rather ambiguously
shaped, "paddles" as an oar.
The "panga" was made of a single log, was pretty water-logged and seemed to
weigh at least a ton, but it actually handled pretty nicely on the water. One
moonless night, after a few too many cervecas in town, it nicely surfed over
a bit of reef when my navigation was off a bit.
I wonder if the description of more elaborate boats as "pangas" might not be
some kind of ironic insiders' joke - kind of like U.S. submariners referring
to their huge SSBN's as "boats".
Ciao for Niao,
Bill in MN
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david@...writes:
> Who ever wrote this has either never seen a panga, or never seen a canoeWell, boat type-names have been, historically, pretty imprecise (e.g. what,
>
exactly is a "caravel" or a "cog" or a "galleon".
In approximately 1968 or 1969, I rented what the owner described as a "panga"
for a couple of weeks in the then-sleepy little burg of "Zihuateno" (Sp.) (My
atlas doesn't show it - a nice little bay which at the time was a long day's
drive north of Aculpulco (Sp.) )
The "panga" was a double-ended dug-out canoe of approx. 16' length with a
thole pin on the starboard side forward which, combined with a marlin
lashing, served as a fulcrum to use one of the supplied, rather ambiguously
shaped, "paddles" as an oar.
The "panga" was made of a single log, was pretty water-logged and seemed to
weigh at least a ton, but it actually handled pretty nicely on the water. One
moonless night, after a few too many cervecas in town, it nicely surfed over
a bit of reef when my navigation was off a bit.
I wonder if the description of more elaborate boats as "pangas" might not be
some kind of ironic insiders' joke - kind of like U.S. submariners referring
to their huge SSBN's as "boats".
Ciao for Niao,
Bill in MN
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Who ever wrote this has either never seen a panga, or never seen a canoe
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>What's a Panga?C.E.P.
>Beach-launched vessel, a Mexican tradition
>1998 by Sport Fishing Staff
> The panga
>looks like a
>glorified canoe,
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Wade,
I thought of Brucesboat partly because of its
turned up nose. Reading your reply, I thought the Pangas
must have ends like Nootkan war canoes.
Quick Google on Panga Canoe...
No pictures, even among the tourista sites that claimed to
have the boats.
Best was this
http://www.boats.com/content/default_detail.jsp?contentid=2258
Here's the cut & paste
What's a Panga?
Beach-launched vessel, a Mexican tradition
1998 by Sport Fishing Staff
If you fish Cerralvo Island, you'll most likely do it from a panga.
In Mexico, the word "panga" applies to any small boat. The Cerralvo
pangas are usually18- to 22-feet long with a narrow beam, high bow
and low stern, powered by a 55- to 70-horsepower outboard. The panga
looks like a
glorified canoe, and its utilitarian design has been a mainstay of
both commercial and sportfishing fleets for decades. The boat is light
enough to be launched manually from sandy beaches; anglers brace
themselves when returning under full power and get a thrill as the
panga slides up the beach for an abrupt but dry landing.
The panga guide (pangero) can't do everything, so you may wind up
steeringthe boat at times, gaffing or releasing fish, or helping
with tackle rigging.
"Open pangas are great for light-tackle anglers because you can
cast in any direction and maneuver close to the shoreline or choice
rocky spots, and they're stable fishing platforms," says Larry
Edwards, owner of Cortez Yacht Charters, who's fished Baja since
1952. "These boats can fish offshore as well and blue marlin to 897
pounds have been taken
from pangas."
************
It's a BIG canoe that takes that many horsepower, no matter
how much nerve the Pangero.
Bruce's takes about 5 hp, I guess, or less if you give up
planing. It makes good sense to have a boat that suits your nearby
waters. If you went for one of those you'd have the first.
It's still technically a prototype, but not to worry.
What Jim Michalak sends will fit together.
He believes the multichine shape is world's better in big seas than
any flatty.
Mark
Wade Leftwich wrote:
Atlantic and
Pacific.
Wade,
I thought of Brucesboat partly because of its
turned up nose. Reading your reply, I thought the Pangas
must have ends like Nootkan war canoes.
Quick Google on Panga Canoe...
No pictures, even among the tourista sites that claimed to
have the boats.
Best was this
http://www.boats.com/content/default_detail.jsp?contentid=2258
Here's the cut & paste
What's a Panga?
Beach-launched vessel, a Mexican tradition
1998 by Sport Fishing Staff
If you fish Cerralvo Island, you'll most likely do it from a panga.
In Mexico, the word "panga" applies to any small boat. The Cerralvo
pangas are usually18- to 22-feet long with a narrow beam, high bow
and low stern, powered by a 55- to 70-horsepower outboard. The panga
looks like a
glorified canoe, and its utilitarian design has been a mainstay of
both commercial and sportfishing fleets for decades. The boat is light
enough to be launched manually from sandy beaches; anglers brace
themselves when returning under full power and get a thrill as the
panga slides up the beach for an abrupt but dry landing.
The panga guide (pangero) can't do everything, so you may wind up
steeringthe boat at times, gaffing or releasing fish, or helping
with tackle rigging.
"Open pangas are great for light-tackle anglers because you can
cast in any direction and maneuver close to the shoreline or choice
rocky spots, and they're stable fishing platforms," says Larry
Edwards, owner of Cortez Yacht Charters, who's fished Baja since
1952. "These boats can fish offshore as well and blue marlin to 897
pounds have been taken
from pangas."
************
It's a BIG canoe that takes that many horsepower, no matter
how much nerve the Pangero.
Bruce's takes about 5 hp, I guess, or less if you give up
planing. It makes good sense to have a boat that suits your nearby
waters. If you went for one of those you'd have the first.
It's still technically a prototype, but not to worry.
What Jim Michalak sends will fit together.
He believes the multichine shape is world's better in big seas than
any flatty.
Mark
Wade Leftwich wrote:
>high bow that seems to be favored in the American tropics, both
> Brucesboat does look quite panga-like, except that doesn't have the
Atlantic and
Pacific.
>Predator, or
> Very nice looking, and a whole lot lighter than the Clam Skiff. (I
>would be keeping the boat on the beach or on a trailer anyway, and
>do not anticipate dredging clams or hauling lobsterpots.)
>
> For my "intended" use, which would include some offshore runs, it
>looks a bit low in the water; a Tolman Skiff, or a Tracy O'Brien
>one of those nice boats at www.bateau.com might be better.around on Cayuga Lake -- Brucesboat looks terrific.
>
> But for the use the boat is actually likely to get -- putting
>
> Thanks for the tip.
>
> Wade Leftwich
> Ithaca, NY