Dakini
If you take a look at the classifieds in the December Woodenboat, page 131, there's a sailing dory that looks almost exactly like dakini, only with a box cabin and narrow side decks.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "pvanderwaart" <pvanderwaart@...> wrote:
of her? I met Jim Melchor at the Isles Of Shoals a few years ago and
had a good gam with him and his new bride. I liked Alert a lot. She
seemed to be in good shape with plenty of life left. Might be a good
buy for the serious PCB fan.
>Speaking of Alert, she was for sale recently. Anybody know what became
> I think the Edey & Duff Shearwater would be another alternate to
> Dakini, if you can find one for sale.
>
> Or, you might be able to find a LFH Meadowlark...
>
> Which PCB thought was superceded by Alert, ex Manatee, but by that
> time you're pretty far afield, investment-wise. I guess if PCB ever
> did have a new design accepted by the market for the Meadowlark niche,
> it was the AS-29, though the former is more daysailer/cruiser and the
> latter is more cruiser/liveaboard.
>
of her? I met Jim Melchor at the Isles Of Shoals a few years ago and
had a good gam with him and his new bride. I liked Alert a lot. She
seemed to be in good shape with plenty of life left. Might be a good
buy for the serious PCB fan.
I think the Edey & Duff Shearwater would be another alternate to
Dakini, if you can find one for sale.
Or, you might be able to find a LFH Meadowlark...
Which PCB thought was superceded by Alert, ex Manatee, but by that
time you're pretty far afield, investment-wise. I guess if PCB ever
did have a new design accepted by the market for the Meadowlark niche,
it was the AS-29, though the former is more daysailer/cruiser and the
latter is more cruiser/liveaboard.
Dakini, if you can find one for sale.
Or, you might be able to find a LFH Meadowlark...
Which PCB thought was superceded by Alert, ex Manatee, but by that
time you're pretty far afield, investment-wise. I guess if PCB ever
did have a new design accepted by the market for the Meadowlark niche,
it was the AS-29, though the former is more daysailer/cruiser and the
latter is more cruiser/liveaboard.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Jack&Lois" <jalo@...> wrote:
was considerable correspondence between Mait and Phil; some of the
rejected designes were indeed intriguing, notably the schooner, which
proved to be too expensive to build. I do think Dakini was a success
and she deserves to be reproduced. Though she was very slow to
windward and in light air, she was quite fast on a reach and
seaworthy, and very comfortable below, and she is pretty. I'm not sure
the tandem centerboards were a total success...I think Mait sort of
gave up on the forward board after a while, or maybe it was the
afterboard...you'd have to ask him; but in any case the space below
was exceptional for a sharpie, this made possible by keeping the
boards out of the living area. Mait went down to Florida and sailed
Bill Schwicker's sharpie before settling on the design of Dakini and
the tandem centerboards. He seems to have been quite satisfied with
the results.
>design. I
> Back in the early/mid 90's I corresponded with Bolger about this
> even met someone who had a close friend who built the second (andperhaps
> only other) one, which is mentioned in the WB article. That boat wassold
> not long after it was completed. Bolger was not exactly enthusiasticabout
> Dakini, stating that Mate Eddy had vetoed many of his design ideas.Bolger
> said he ultimately let Eddy dictate what he wanted and drew theplans to his
> desires. In his words, more or less: "it's not a bad boat, just notnearly
> what it could have been". He persuaded me that the Jochems schoonerwas a
> much better boat and more suited to my needs. He does have Dakiniplans for
> sale, but I suspect he'd try to win you over to a design he ishappier with.
>Having been around when Dakini was conceived, I can testify that there
>
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> jeb
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was considerable correspondence between Mait and Phil; some of the
rejected designes were indeed intriguing, notably the schooner, which
proved to be too expensive to build. I do think Dakini was a success
and she deserves to be reproduced. Though she was very slow to
windward and in light air, she was quite fast on a reach and
seaworthy, and very comfortable below, and she is pretty. I'm not sure
the tandem centerboards were a total success...I think Mait sort of
gave up on the forward board after a while, or maybe it was the
afterboard...you'd have to ask him; but in any case the space below
was exceptional for a sharpie, this made possible by keeping the
boards out of the living area. Mait went down to Florida and sailed
Bill Schwicker's sharpie before settling on the design of Dakini and
the tandem centerboards. He seems to have been quite satisfied with
the results.
Back in the early/mid 90's I corresponded with Bolger about this design. I
even met someone who had a close friend who built the second (and perhaps
only other) one, which is mentioned in the WB article. That boat was sold
not long after it was completed. Bolger was not exactly enthusiastic about
Dakini, stating that Mate Eddy had vetoed many of his design ideas. Bolger
said he ultimately let Eddy dictate what he wanted and drew the plans to his
desires. In his words, more or less: "it's not a bad boat, just not nearly
what it could have been". He persuaded me that the Jochems schooner was a
much better boat and more suited to my needs. He does have Dakini plans for
sale, but I suspect he'd try to win you over to a design he is happier with.
jeb
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even met someone who had a close friend who built the second (and perhaps
only other) one, which is mentioned in the WB article. That boat was sold
not long after it was completed. Bolger was not exactly enthusiastic about
Dakini, stating that Mate Eddy had vetoed many of his design ideas. Bolger
said he ultimately let Eddy dictate what he wanted and drew the plans to his
desires. In his words, more or less: "it's not a bad boat, just not nearly
what it could have been". He persuaded me that the Jochems schooner was a
much better boat and more suited to my needs. He does have Dakini plans for
sale, but I suspect he'd try to win you over to a design he is happier with.
jeb
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Looking at an old WoodenBoat magazine, anyone know anything about
Bolger's Dakini?
Shoal draft yawl, sort of a cross between a dory and a sharpie.
Bill H.
Bolger's Dakini?
Shoal draft yawl, sort of a cross between a dory and a sharpie.
Bill H.
The article on Dakini appeared in WB #92, Feb. 1990. The article was written
by, and boat designed for Mait Edey. Dakini's the first Bolger boat I was
captivated by. She's also what prompted my initial correspondance with PCB
re. plans for her. This is what he had to say about Dakini: "We are not
enthusiastic about this design, which was dictated by Mait's preferences.
She seems to us to have been very expensive for her capabilities, no more
than a mediocre sailor, and to have no special advantages from her dory
characteristics." In subsequent correspondance he clarified by saying Dakini
was not a "bad" boat, just not nearly as good as she should have been. The
cartoon on page 99 of that issue is, I'm sure, much more what he would like
to have seen. As I think we all know by now PCB is vehemently and
passionately anti-sail when it comes to dories. He convinced me to start
with a June Bug, which I did. Swayed by the evidence of his genius by JB
performance I was easily convinced to purchase plans for Jochems, which I've
yet to start. Built a Gypsy and a couple of kayaks to keep myself out of
trouble during the last couple of years. Did get the bow roof workshop built
for Jochems... only to space is currently filled with the Micro I'm in the
process of rescuing. (sigh) Life is always more complicated than we
anticipate.
jeb, getting near the edge, on the 'spring teazed' shores of Fundy
by, and boat designed for Mait Edey. Dakini's the first Bolger boat I was
captivated by. She's also what prompted my initial correspondance with PCB
re. plans for her. This is what he had to say about Dakini: "We are not
enthusiastic about this design, which was dictated by Mait's preferences.
She seems to us to have been very expensive for her capabilities, no more
than a mediocre sailor, and to have no special advantages from her dory
characteristics." In subsequent correspondance he clarified by saying Dakini
was not a "bad" boat, just not nearly as good as she should have been. The
cartoon on page 99 of that issue is, I'm sure, much more what he would like
to have seen. As I think we all know by now PCB is vehemently and
passionately anti-sail when it comes to dories. He convinced me to start
with a June Bug, which I did. Swayed by the evidence of his genius by JB
performance I was easily convinced to purchase plans for Jochems, which I've
yet to start. Built a Gypsy and a couple of kayaks to keep myself out of
trouble during the last couple of years. Did get the bow roof workshop built
for Jochems... only to space is currently filled with the Micro I'm in the
process of rescuing. (sigh) Life is always more complicated than we
anticipate.
jeb, getting near the edge, on the 'spring teazed' shores of Fundy
My recollection of the WB article -- or maybe another one on the same boat --
is that the design was a kind of joint effort between the owner and PCB: the
owner wanted the dory shape; PCB thought non-flared sides would have been
better but agreed to go along with the owner.
Howard
is that the design was a kind of joint effort between the owner and PCB: the
owner wanted the dory shape; PCB thought non-flared sides would have been
better but agreed to go along with the owner.
Howard
> I was reading an old WB on sharpies that showed Bolger's Dakini(sp?)a[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> sharpie with a dory bow. I was wondering if anyone has read anything
> on this design and the thinking behind it. I would imagine that the
> dory bow is intended to reduce pounding without causing water flow
> disturbance around the chines as would happen in the case if one
> immersed the stem on a traditional sharpie. Although this is
> speculation on my part, I would be interested to hear why PCB did
> this and if the results were satisfactory.
>
> Dennis Marshall
>
I was wondering if anyone knows about this design. I ran across it in
an old WB in which Mike O'Brien talks about Sharpies. What is
interesting here is the "dory" bow. I am assuming that PCB included
the Dory stem to cut down pounding and avoid the hydrostatic flow
problems around the chines caused by the immersion of a sharpie bow.
Is this an experiment on PCB's part. If so, was he satisfied with it?
Dennis Marshall
an old WB in which Mike O'Brien talks about Sharpies. What is
interesting here is the "dory" bow. I am assuming that PCB included
the Dory stem to cut down pounding and avoid the hydrostatic flow
problems around the chines caused by the immersion of a sharpie bow.
Is this an experiment on PCB's part. If so, was he satisfied with it?
Dennis Marshall
I was reading an old WB on sharpies that showed Bolger's Dakini(sp?)a
sharpie with a dory bow. I was wondering if anyone has read anything
on this design and the thinking behind it. I would imagine that the
dory bow is intended to reduce pounding without causing water flow
disturbance around the chines as would happen in the case if one
immersed the stem on a traditional sharpie. Although this is
speculation on my part, I would be interested to hear why PCB did
this and if the results were satisfactory.
Dennis Marshall
sharpie with a dory bow. I was wondering if anyone has read anything
on this design and the thinking behind it. I would imagine that the
dory bow is intended to reduce pounding without causing water flow
disturbance around the chines as would happen in the case if one
immersed the stem on a traditional sharpie. Although this is
speculation on my part, I would be interested to hear why PCB did
this and if the results were satisfactory.
Dennis Marshall