Re: [bolger] Re: Mental Illness?
Try being PCB with a mind churning out ideas like a tidal wave,
customers with requests for even more, and finite life time with the
statistical end rapidly approaching. You can see why he has gone to only
doing designs that people promise to build.
HJ
customers with requests for even more, and finite life time with the
statistical end rapidly approaching. You can see why he has gone to only
doing designs that people promise to build.
HJ
>
> 2) Imagine being PCB; he must experience a never ending stream of
> boat-building dreamers, most of which probably are not entirely
> rational. He then trys to make a living serving up these dreams.
>
>
> That's quite a generalization.You are correct, of course. Bolger's Mouser catboat (Small Boats) is
> I seem to recall a Bolger design or two
> that answers to that description.
contemporary with and similar to the Whitholtz designs, construction-
wise.
Perhaps I should have been more specific. Building a traditional v-
bottom boat with frames made out of planks is much different than
building a boat with plywood web frames with nailers around the
perimeter. In general, the older boats used large dimension timbers
for the backbone where laminations would be designed today. Bolger
comments is several places that the popularity of v-bottom designs
among amateur builders for most of the 20th century was based on a
false premise or two. See the discussion of Mouser, or of Seabird '86
(MWAOM).
Peter
http://catboat.home.texas.net/cb01.html
--- In bolger@y..., "pauldayau" <wattleweedooseeds@b...> wrote:
> > plain nuts!
> >
> > But I really like the 17' plywood cat that Charles Wittholtz
> > designed.....
> >
> >
> Got a web adress for this boat please?
> Cheers Paul
http://catboat.home.texas.net/cb01.html
--- In bolger@y..., "pauldayau" <wattleweedooseeds@b...> wrote:
> > plain nuts!
> >
> > But I really like the 17' plywood cat that Charles Wittholtz
> > designed.....
> >
> >
> Got a web adress for this boat please?
> Cheers Paul
You should build a Chebacco instead! :-)
--- In bolger@y..., "prthober" <prthober@p...> wrote:
> Dear Fellow Bolgeristas,
>
> Can I use this forum in lieu of my psychotherapist?
>
> This whole boat-building thing is really pathological. I have my
> first boat about twenty percent done and already I'm starting to
look
> at other designs and think about finances, lifestyle changes,
> berthing costs, construction methods, etc., etc., etc... This is
just
> plain nuts!
>
> But I really like the 17' plywood cat that Charles Wittholtz
> designed.....
>
> (This is where you come in) " and how do you feel about this?")
>
> Sheesh! I need help!!!
>
> Paul
--- In bolger@y..., "prthober" <prthober@p...> wrote:
Anonymous meeting? This group is the equivalant of a bar. :)
Two things come to my mind:
1) Speaking for myself; I want to build boats more than I want to use
them. Does that sound pathological?
2) Imagine being PCB; he must experience a never ending stream of
boat-building dreamers, most of which probably are not entirely
rational. He then trys to make a living serving up these dreams.
> Can I use this forum in lieu of my psychotherapist?If you had a drinking problem, would you go to a bar or an Alcoholics
> This whole boat-building thing is really pathological.
> Sheesh! I need help!!! Paul
Anonymous meeting? This group is the equivalant of a bar. :)
Two things come to my mind:
1) Speaking for myself; I want to build boats more than I want to use
them. Does that sound pathological?
2) Imagine being PCB; he must experience a never ending stream of
boat-building dreamers, most of which probably are not entirely
rational. He then trys to make a living serving up these dreams.
That's quite a generalization. I seem to recall a Bolger design or two
that answers to that description.
that answers to that description.
--- In bolger@y..., "pvanderwaart" <pvanderw@o...> wrote:
> > But I really like the 17' plywood cat that Charles Wittholtz
> > designed.....
>
> I am sure you realize this, but to be sure, let me say it out loud.
> The Wittholtz cats are wonderful boats but a very different type of
> building project from a Bolger boat. They are traditional v-bottom
> boats with traditional construction that happen to be plywood
> planked.
snip
> > But I really like the 17' plywood cat that Charles WittholtzIt's listed under cruising boat plans at the WoodenBoat store:
> > designed.....
> Got a web adress for this boat please?
http://www.woodenboatstore.com/store/
> But I really like the 17' plywood cat that Charles WittholtzI am sure you realize this, but to be sure, let me say it out loud.
> designed.....
The Wittholtz cats are wonderful boats but a very different type of
building project from a Bolger boat. They are traditional v-bottom
boats with traditional construction that happen to be plywood
planked.
If you want modern epoxy/ply construction, you could look at the
Devlin adaptation of the Ted Brewer 21' cat. It's a much bigger boat,
of course. If you don't need the cruising accomodation of the
Wittholtz cat, there is the Bolger Chebacco. And of course, Long
Micro would be a possibility.
Bolger also designed a hard chine cat in a larger size - around 22
feet I think.
> plain nuts!Got a web adress for this boat please?
>
> But I really like the 17' plywood cat that Charles Wittholtz
> designed.....
>
>
Cheers Paul
--- In bolger@y..., "prthober" <prthober@p...> wrote:
boat. "The what next" phase.
Yu've yet to go into the" build boats till 2 am then get up at 6 am
and get back into it "phase, the " Bugger payingthat much , I'll
make it myself"phase, the "dont buy food this week because I need a
gallon of epoxy, dear " phase .
Dont forget the illnesses. "I'm to ill to come to wrk today,cos of
flu"- really means "sorry boss theres a sh-t load of planing and
sanding I just have to get out of the way as I'm painting at the
wwekend.
Have you started making your own home brew yet?
here in Australia a carton (30cans ) costs1/2sheet of 6mm plyor 2l
paint or 1/3 batch epoxy, so you soon start brewing to save money.
Hows the scrounging going ?
Have you started looking in skips for materials, cleaning up
building sites for the offcuts, or climbing into bins at engineering
shops yet? youwill!
And you thought you were just building a boat.
Cheers Paul
> Dear Fellow Bolgeristas,look
>
> Can I use this forum in lieu of my psychotherapist?
>
> This whole boat-building thing is really pathological. I have my
> first boat about twenty percent done and already I'm starting to
> at other designs and think about finances, lifestyle changes,just
> berthing costs, construction methods, etc., etc., etc... This is
> plain nuts!Let me assure you that this is a normal phase in building a
>
> But I really like the 17' plywood cat that Charles Wittholtz
> designed.....
>
> (This is where you come in) " and how do you feel about this?")
>
> Sheesh! I need help!!!
>
boat. "The what next" phase.
Yu've yet to go into the" build boats till 2 am then get up at 6 am
and get back into it "phase, the " Bugger payingthat much , I'll
make it myself"phase, the "dont buy food this week because I need a
gallon of epoxy, dear " phase .
Dont forget the illnesses. "I'm to ill to come to wrk today,cos of
flu"- really means "sorry boss theres a sh-t load of planing and
sanding I just have to get out of the way as I'm painting at the
wwekend.
Have you started making your own home brew yet?
here in Australia a carton (30cans ) costs1/2sheet of 6mm plyor 2l
paint or 1/3 batch epoxy, so you soon start brewing to save money.
Hows the scrounging going ?
Have you started looking in skips for materials, cleaning up
building sites for the offcuts, or climbing into bins at engineering
shops yet? youwill!
And you thought you were just building a boat.
Cheers Paul
> Paul
Paul, when I started sailing my parents said I caught the disease;
they where both sailors. I also have the tendency towards being a
techy. Both have been compare to illnesses and I have contracted both
and rapped them up in boat building and sailing. Although I entertain
other techy subjects.
Andy Moore
Halifax
Nova Scotia
they where both sailors. I also have the tendency towards being a
techy. Both have been compare to illnesses and I have contracted both
and rapped them up in boat building and sailing. Although I entertain
other techy subjects.
Andy Moore
Halifax
Nova Scotia
> Sheesh! I need help!!!
>
> Paul
Dear Fellow Bolgeristas,
Can I use this forum in lieu of my psychotherapist?
This whole boat-building thing is really pathological. I have my
first boat about twenty percent done and already I'm starting to look
at other designs and think about finances, lifestyle changes,
berthing costs, construction methods, etc., etc., etc... This is just
plain nuts!
But I really like the 17' plywood cat that Charles Wittholtz
designed.....
(This is where you come in) " and how do you feel about this?")
Sheesh! I need help!!!
Paul
Can I use this forum in lieu of my psychotherapist?
This whole boat-building thing is really pathological. I have my
first boat about twenty percent done and already I'm starting to look
at other designs and think about finances, lifestyle changes,
berthing costs, construction methods, etc., etc., etc... This is just
plain nuts!
But I really like the 17' plywood cat that Charles Wittholtz
designed.....
(This is where you come in) " and how do you feel about this?")
Sheesh! I need help!!!
Paul