Re: pre-assembly glassing
Paul means look in the files section (on the left) and look under
Junebug, he has some pictures there.
Steve
Junebug, he has some pictures there.
Steve
--- In bolger@y..., "Nickerson, Bruce " <nickerb@p...> wrote:
> ty for response. As a newbie in this cyber-community, I am
unfamiliar with
> your reference to "Botany Bay." Can you please explain as I would
love to
> see any info on the JB.
>
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> From: pauldayau [mailto:wattleweedooseeds@b...]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 8:10 AM
> To: bolger@y...
> Subject: [bolger] Re: pre-assembly glassing
>
>
> --- In bolger@y..., "Nickerson, Bruce " <nickerb@p...> wrote:
> > Have been following discussion about pre-assembly
> glassing/epoxying, etc. I
> > am starting a June Bug and have a few questions:
> >
> > Can one both glass and epoxy coat before assembly?
> >
> > If you glass and epoxy before assembly, what about drilling,
> screwing, etc,
> > after assembly, as in chine logs and gunwales? Will the
> glass/epoxy tend to
> > chip and/or dull tools?
> >
> > And what about cutting excess off bottom edges of plywood and
then
> rounding
> > chine edges? Will the glass and epoxy interfere with this? Use
> hand saw,
> > skilsaw, router?
> >
> > I assume any raw edges, such as external chine and stem and
transom
> edges,
> > would then be sealed with glass tape as is usual?
> Just to put a spanner in th works . our JB has no glass tape
> anywhere !! butt joints are glue only!! o The bottom has recieved a
> coating on both sides ot epoxy resin only. thiis was done after
> construction . the boat is over 10 years old out in the weather
> temperatures from -4to +45 celcius.
> the bottom is bullet proof and impossibl to sand so it got more
paint
> . seejune Bug section , Botany Bay.
> cheers Paul
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ty for response. As a newbie in this cyber-community, I am unfamiliar with
your reference to "Botany Bay." Can you please explain as I would love to
see any info on the JB.
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From: pauldayau [mailto:wattleweedooseeds@...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 8:10 AM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Re: pre-assembly glassing
your reference to "Botany Bay." Can you please explain as I would love to
see any info on the JB.
-----Original Message-----
From: pauldayau [mailto:wattleweedooseeds@...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 8:10 AM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Re: pre-assembly glassing
--- In bolger@y..., "Nickerson, Bruce " <nickerb@p...> wrote:
> Have been following discussion about pre-assembly
glassing/epoxying, etc. I
> am starting a June Bug and have a few questions:
>
> Can one both glass and epoxy coat before assembly?
>
> If you glass and epoxy before assembly, what about drilling,
screwing, etc,
> after assembly, as in chine logs and gunwales? Will the
glass/epoxy tend to
> chip and/or dull tools?
>
> And what about cutting excess off bottom edges of plywood and then
rounding
> chine edges? Will the glass and epoxy interfere with this? Use
hand saw,
> skilsaw, router?
>
> I assume any raw edges, such as external chine and stem and transom
edges,
> would then be sealed with glass tape as is usual?
Just to put a spanner in th works . our JB has no glass tape
anywhere !! butt joints are glue only!! o The bottom has recieved a
coating on both sides ot epoxy resin only. thiis was done after
construction . the boat is over 10 years old out in the weather
temperatures from -4to +45 celcius.
the bottom is bullet proof and impossibl to sand so it got more paint
. seejune Bug section , Botany Bay.
cheers Paul
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--- In bolger@y..., "Nickerson, Bruce " <nickerb@p...> wrote:
anywhere !! butt joints are glue only!! o The bottom has recieved a
coating on both sides ot epoxy resin only. thiis was done after
construction . the boat is over 10 years old out in the weather
temperatures from -4to +45 celcius.
the bottom is bullet proof and impossibl to sand so it got more paint
. seejune Bug section , Botany Bay.
cheers Paul
> Have been following discussion about pre-assemblyglassing/epoxying, etc. I
> am starting a June Bug and have a few questions:screwing, etc,
>
> Can one both glass and epoxy coat before assembly?
>
> If you glass and epoxy before assembly, what about drilling,
> after assembly, as in chine logs and gunwales? Will theglass/epoxy tend to
> chip and/or dull tools?rounding
>
> And what about cutting excess off bottom edges of plywood and then
> chine edges? Will the glass and epoxy interfere with this? Usehand saw,
> skilsaw, router?edges,
>
> I assume any raw edges, such as external chine and stem and transom
> would then be sealed with glass tape as is usual?Just to put a spanner in th works . our JB has no glass tape
anywhere !! butt joints are glue only!! o The bottom has recieved a
coating on both sides ot epoxy resin only. thiis was done after
construction . the boat is over 10 years old out in the weather
temperatures from -4to +45 celcius.
the bottom is bullet proof and impossibl to sand so it got more paint
. seejune Bug section , Botany Bay.
cheers Paul
For me, one reason not to pre-cloth would be so as not
to have to mill the glass/epoxy matrix. I don't want
that stuff in my shop, or really on my property. I
believe that in general you shouldn't work these
materials, smoothing should be a process of building
up, not grinding off. Pre-glassing, though easier for
that one step, if it leads to the need to grind or saw
glass is a bad thing. But we started talking about
sides, which are likely to be the hardest thing to
coat, and where preglassing does not necesarily lead
to bad things.
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to have to mill the glass/epoxy matrix. I don't want
that stuff in my shop, or really on my property. I
believe that in general you shouldn't work these
materials, smoothing should be a process of building
up, not grinding off. Pre-glassing, though easier for
that one step, if it leads to the need to grind or saw
glass is a bad thing. But we started talking about
sides, which are likely to be the hardest thing to
coat, and where preglassing does not necesarily lead
to bad things.
--- "Nickerson, Bruce " <nickerb@...> wrote:
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<html><body>
<tt>
Have been following discussion about pre-assembly
glassing/epoxying, etc. I<BR>
am starting a June Bug and have a few questions:<BR>
<BR>
______________________________________________________________________
Find, Connect, Date!http://personals.yahoo.ca
I'm still on the fence regarding putting screw holes in smooth pre-glassed
panels, but otherwise it's not a problem functionally - any tool that can
work wood can deal with the weights of glass you'll be using. Routers will
trim or round over the chine edges of glassed panels with no apparent ill
effect to the bits; you can saw, drill, etc. as if it were simply wood. If
you plan to round-over your chine with a router, make sure you put the nails
or screws far enough back to not nick the radius bit you plan to use. So
pre-coat, bang it all together, then round the chine with a router or
whatever, and lastly tape over the chine to seal in the endgrain and
reinforce the joint, and fair the edges of the tape with microballoon blend
filler. Just make sure any epoxy you work is well-cured before you start
cutting, etc. or it'll gunk everything up and make for a real nasty job
cleaning your tools (don't ask me how I know this). Wear a mask when
producing powder from fairly green epoxy, you don't want to breathe any of
that dust.
Paul Lefebvre
panels, but otherwise it's not a problem functionally - any tool that can
work wood can deal with the weights of glass you'll be using. Routers will
trim or round over the chine edges of glassed panels with no apparent ill
effect to the bits; you can saw, drill, etc. as if it were simply wood. If
you plan to round-over your chine with a router, make sure you put the nails
or screws far enough back to not nick the radius bit you plan to use. So
pre-coat, bang it all together, then round the chine with a router or
whatever, and lastly tape over the chine to seal in the endgrain and
reinforce the joint, and fair the edges of the tape with microballoon blend
filler. Just make sure any epoxy you work is well-cured before you start
cutting, etc. or it'll gunk everything up and make for a real nasty job
cleaning your tools (don't ask me how I know this). Wear a mask when
producing powder from fairly green epoxy, you don't want to breathe any of
that dust.
Paul Lefebvre
>
Have been following discussion about pre-assembly glassing/epoxying, etc. I
am starting a June Bug and have a few questions:
Can one both glass and epoxy coat before assembly?
If you glass and epoxy before assembly, what about drilling, screwing, etc,
after assembly, as in chine logs and gunwales? Will the glass/epoxy tend to
chip and/or dull tools?
And what about cutting excess off bottom edges of plywood and then rounding
chine edges? Will the glass and epoxy interfere with this? Use hand saw,
skilsaw, router?
I assume any raw edges, such as external chine and stem and transom edges,
would then be sealed with glass tape as is usual?
am starting a June Bug and have a few questions:
Can one both glass and epoxy coat before assembly?
If you glass and epoxy before assembly, what about drilling, screwing, etc,
after assembly, as in chine logs and gunwales? Will the glass/epoxy tend to
chip and/or dull tools?
And what about cutting excess off bottom edges of plywood and then rounding
chine edges? Will the glass and epoxy interfere with this? Use hand saw,
skilsaw, router?
I assume any raw edges, such as external chine and stem and transom edges,
would then be sealed with glass tape as is usual?