Re: thinking about rigging
He He,
OK you've convinced me!
I'm going to rig my boat with galvanized wire, served with hemp!
(That's pretty open statement I suppose)
Jules
OK you've convinced me!
I'm going to rig my boat with galvanized wire, served with hemp!
(That's pretty open statement I suppose)
Jules
--- In bolger@y..., Paul van der Merwe <paul.vandermerwe@f...> wrote:
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 20:00:23 -0000
> Boat trailer winch cables are steel galvanized.
>
> From: "lulalake_1999" <lulalake_1999@y...>
> Subject: Re: thinking about rigging
>
> I wonder if the recommendation about galvanized is about solid
wire?
> I can't seem to locate twisted, wrapped galvanized anywhere.
>
> The solid wire is mild steel that has been galvanized. Hmmmm. That
> doesn't really sound too cool to me.
Message: 3
Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 20:00:23 -0000
Boat trailer winch cables are steel galvanized.
From: "lulalake_1999" <lulalake_1999@...>
Subject: Re: thinking about rigging
I wonder if the recommendation about galvanized is about solid wire?
I can't seem to locate twisted, wrapped galvanized anywhere.
The solid wire is mild steel that has been galvanized. Hmmmm. That
doesn't really sound too cool to me.
Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 20:00:23 -0000
Boat trailer winch cables are steel galvanized.
From: "lulalake_1999" <lulalake_1999@...>
Subject: Re: thinking about rigging
I wonder if the recommendation about galvanized is about solid wire?
I can't seem to locate twisted, wrapped galvanized anywhere.
The solid wire is mild steel that has been galvanized. Hmmmm. That
doesn't really sound too cool to me.
You might check out Brion Toss at
http://www.briontoss.com/
\and see if he can recommend a source.
My latest Boats and Harbors a sort of maritime Trade a Plane, had
several sources, a quick search of the house has it turning up missing,
I will reveal these sources when the magazine is revealed or the next
issue comes.
HJ
lulalake_1999 wrote:
http://www.briontoss.com/
\and see if he can recommend a source.
My latest Boats and Harbors a sort of maritime Trade a Plane, had
several sources, a quick search of the house has it turning up missing,
I will reveal these sources when the magazine is revealed or the next
issue comes.
HJ
lulalake_1999 wrote:
>
> I wonder if the recommendation about galvanized is about solid wire?
> I can't seem to locate twisted, wrapped galvanized anywhere.
>
> The solid wire is mild steel that has been galvanized. Hmmmm. That
> doesn't really sound too cool to me.
>
>
At Lunenburg N.S., from the dock I got to watch some youngster on the
ROSE hanging in a boatswains chair from the outer stay of her
bowsprit. He had a bucket of tar and was applying it to the the stay
from which we was hanging. He would spread a little and move his own
chair up the stay -- of course it was closer to horizontal than
vertical. There was forward of a large spreader that put him out
over the wharf. Very cool.
Phil Lea
ROSE hanging in a boatswains chair from the outer stay of her
bowsprit. He had a bucket of tar and was applying it to the the stay
from which we was hanging. He would spread a little and move his own
chair up the stay -- of course it was closer to horizontal than
vertical. There was forward of a large spreader that put him out
over the wharf. Very cool.
Phil Lea
--- In bolger@y..., "lulalake_1999" wrote:
[snip> Does anyone know the process for tarring hemp rope?
> Jules
On Tuesday 14 May 2002 23:35, pvanderwaart wrote:
some warning before it fails (unlike stainless).
--
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Senior Software Engineer
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Perth Western Australia
tel: +618 9256 0083
> Along the same line, Brian Toss in The Rigger's Apprentice suggestsAnd even if it is not properly cared for galvanised wire will give you
> using galvanised wire rigging, served and tarred. The wire is
> stronger than stainless, and will last a lifetime if properly cared
> for.
some warning before it fails (unlike stainless).
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Isn't the Golden Gate bridge something simmilar?
last for a century or more.<BR>
<BR>
As someone (not Toss) pointed out, the telephone
companies use this <BR>
stuff all over.<BR>
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last for a century or more.<BR>
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As someone (not Toss) pointed out, the telephone
companies use this <BR>
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> The solid wire is mild steel that has been galvanized. Hmmmm. ThatBrian Toss on galvanized wire **rope**:
> doesn't really sound too cool to me.
It is less elastic and more fatigue-resistant than any alloy, at one-
third the cost. The sole drawback is that it requires maintenance...
I've seen 20-, 40-, 50-year old rigs in perfect condition.
and
The oldest rigging afloat is not stainless steel, which has a
lifespan limited by fatigue, but parceled and served galvanized wire,
which is less susceptible to fatigue and can be completely sealed
from rust.
and
If served galvanized rigging is slushe dwhenever it gets looking dry,
it will last for a century or more.
As someone (not Toss) pointed out, the telephone companies use this
stuff all over.
Peter
I wonder if the recommendation about galvanized is about solid wire?
I can't seem to locate twisted, wrapped galvanized anywhere.
The solid wire is mild steel that has been galvanized. Hmmmm. That
doesn't really sound too cool to me.
I can't seem to locate twisted, wrapped galvanized anywhere.
The solid wire is mild steel that has been galvanized. Hmmmm. That
doesn't really sound too cool to me.
--- In bolger@y..., "rnlocnil" <lincolnr@m...> wrote:
> They say Spectra creeps under load. Not exactly what you'd want in
> rigging, tho if you're going to have TCP in your rigging Spectra
cloth
> might be nice for catching bullets (I won't say whose, use your
> imagination and politics). For rigging, I'd guess Kevlar would be
much
> better.
>
> Instead of hemp, why not use something conventional, then put a
small
> weight and parachute at your masthead. You can make up for the
other
> difference by hitting yourself on the head with an old fashioned
> lignum vitae mallet!
>
> I've heard recommendations for galvanised wire as an inexpensive
> alternative to stainless before.
>
> Right now, I hate rigging after helping my friend with his trailer
> boat. If you're going to use advanced composites, how about a
stayless
> carbon mast? You can paint it to look like wood. Everyone will be
> amazed as you heft it yourself.
> --- In bolger@y..., thomas dalzell <proaconstrictor@y...> wrote:
> > Sail it offshore, bring it back, get busted for trace
> > TCP content. What about spectra?
> >
> > --- lulalake_1999 <lulalake_1999@y...> wrote:
> >
> > <HR>
> > <html><body> <- this is a waste of electrons! as is much of
the
> rest of this spurious code
> >
> >
> > <tt>
> > I've been thinking about rigging lately remembering my
> > old sailing <BR>
> > mentor who had a yar vessel, a 40' homebuilt staysail
> > schooner with a <BR>
> > great aft cabin, The Christian Rose.<BR>
> > All the standing rigging was tarred hemp recycled from
> > a <BR>
> > decommissioned Navy vessel .<BR>
> > <BR>
> Much HTML code and a little message snipped!
They say Spectra creeps under load. Not exactly what you'd want in
rigging, tho if you're going to have TCP in your rigging Spectra cloth
might be nice for catching bullets (I won't say whose, use your
imagination and politics). For rigging, I'd guess Kevlar would be much
better.
Instead of hemp, why not use something conventional, then put a small
weight and parachute at your masthead. You can make up for the other
difference by hitting yourself on the head with an old fashioned
lignum vitae mallet!
I've heard recommendations for galvanised wire as an inexpensive
alternative to stainless before.
Right now, I hate rigging after helping my friend with his trailer
boat. If you're going to use advanced composites, how about a stayless
carbon mast? You can paint it to look like wood. Everyone will be
amazed as you heft it yourself.
rigging, tho if you're going to have TCP in your rigging Spectra cloth
might be nice for catching bullets (I won't say whose, use your
imagination and politics). For rigging, I'd guess Kevlar would be much
better.
Instead of hemp, why not use something conventional, then put a small
weight and parachute at your masthead. You can make up for the other
difference by hitting yourself on the head with an old fashioned
lignum vitae mallet!
I've heard recommendations for galvanised wire as an inexpensive
alternative to stainless before.
Right now, I hate rigging after helping my friend with his trailer
boat. If you're going to use advanced composites, how about a stayless
carbon mast? You can paint it to look like wood. Everyone will be
amazed as you heft it yourself.
--- In bolger@y..., thomas dalzell <proaconstrictor@y...> wrote:
> Sail it offshore, bring it back, get busted for trace
> TCP content. What about spectra?
>
> --- lulalake_1999 <lulalake_1999@y...> wrote:
>
> <HR>
> <html><body> <- this is a waste of electrons! as is much of the
rest of this spurious code
>
>
> <tt>
> I've been thinking about rigging lately remembering my
> old sailing <BR>
> mentor who had a yar vessel, a 40' homebuilt staysail
> schooner with a <BR>
> great aft cabin, The Christian Rose.<BR>
> All the standing rigging was tarred hemp recycled from
> a <BR>
> decommissioned Navy vessel .<BR>
> <BR>
Much HTML code and a little message snipped!
Yeah, Spectra's good stuff but I don't think you would want to use it
for shrouds and it's hard to keep lit anyway.
for shrouds and it's hard to keep lit anyway.
--- In bolger@y..., thomas dalzell <proaconstrictor@y...> wrote:
> Sail it offshore, bring it back, get busted for trace
> TCP content. What about spectra?
>
> --- lulalake_1999 <lulalake_1999@y...> wrote:
>
> <HR>
> <html><body>
>
>
> <tt>
> I've been thinking about rigging lately remembering my
> old sailing <BR>
> mentor who had a yar vessel, a 40' homebuilt staysail
> schooner with a <BR>
> great aft cabin, The Christian Rose.<BR>
> All the standing rigging was tarred hemp recycled from
> a <BR>
> decommissioned Navy vessel .<BR>
> <BR>
> I did some research on the stuff and have found
> several sites that <BR>
> sell hemp rope and tarred hemp twine.<BR>
> <BR>
> This one sells the widest variety of hemp ropes at the
> best prices, <BR>
> up to 2 3/8 diameter hawsers. (That should hold those
> micros)<BR>
> <a
>
href="http://hempmasters.com/store/pages/hemptwine2.htm">http://hempma
sters.com/store/pages/hemptwine2.htm</a><BR>
> <BR>
> This one sells tarred hemp twine <BR>
> <BR>
> <a
> href="http://www.poly.se/english/produkter/produkt-meny-
10.htm">http://www.poly.se/english/produkter/produkt-meny-
10.htm</a><BR>
> <BR>
> <BR>
> So for all the saltier than thou crowd, or for those
> who just want <BR>
> some rope that will outlast your boat, check these
> out.<BR>
> <BR>
> <BR>
> Does anyone know the process for tarring hemp rope?
> (not smoking <BR>
> it) :- )<BR>
> <BR>
> Thanks<BR>
> <BR>
> Jules<BR>
> <BR>
> <BR>
> <BR>
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Spectra not traditional.
What about unstayed?
What about unstayed?
----- Original Message -----
From: "thomas dalzell" <proaconstrictor@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 1:12 PM
Subject: Re: [bolger] thinking about rigging
> Sail it offshore, bring it back, get busted for trace
> TCP content. What about spectra?
>
> --- lulalake_1999 <lulalake_1999@...> wrote:
>
> <HR>
> <html><body>
>
>
> <tt>
> I've been thinking about rigging lately remembering my
> old sailing <BR>
> mentor who had a yar vessel, a 40' homebuilt staysail
> schooner with a <BR>
> great aft cabin, The Christian Rose.<BR>
> All the standing rigging was tarred hemp recycled from
> a <BR>
> decommissioned Navy vessel .<BR>
> <BR>
> I did some research on the stuff and have found
> several sites that <BR>
> sell hemp rope and tarred hemp twine.<BR>
> <BR>
> This one sells the widest variety of hemp ropes at the
> best prices, <BR>
> up to 2 3/8 diameter hawsers. (That should hold those
> micros)<BR>
> <a
>
href="http://hempmasters.com/store/pages/hemptwine2.htm">http://hempmasters.
com/store/pages/hemptwine2.htm</a><BR>
> <BR>
> This one sells tarred hemp twine <BR>
> <BR>
> <a
>
href="http://www.poly.se/english/produkter/produkt-meny-10.htm">http://www.p
oly.se/english/produkter/produkt-meny-10.htm</a><BR>
> <BR>
> <BR>
> So for all the saltier than thou crowd, or for those
> who just want <BR>
> some rope that will outlast your boat, check these
> out.<BR>
> <BR>
> <BR>
> Does anyone know the process for tarring hemp rope?
> (not smoking <BR>
> it) :- )<BR>
> <BR>
> Thanks<BR>
> <BR>
> Jules<BR>
> <BR>
> <BR>
> <BR>
> </tt>
>
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Sail it offshore, bring it back, get busted for trace
TCP content. What about spectra?
--- lulalake_1999 <lulalake_1999@...> wrote:
<HR>
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<tt>
I've been thinking about rigging lately remembering my
old sailing <BR>
mentor who had a yar vessel, a 40' homebuilt staysail
schooner with a <BR>
great aft cabin, The Christian Rose.<BR>
All the standing rigging was tarred hemp recycled from
a <BR>
decommissioned Navy vessel .<BR>
<BR>
I did some research on the stuff and have found
several sites that <BR>
sell hemp rope and tarred hemp twine.<BR>
<BR>
This one sells the widest variety of hemp ropes at the
best prices, <BR>
up to 2 3/8 diameter hawsers. (That should hold those
micros)<BR>
<a
href="http://hempmasters.com/store/pages/hemptwine2.htm">http://hempmasters.com/store/pages/hemptwine2.htm</a><BR>
<BR>
This one sells tarred hemp twine <BR>
<BR>
<a
href="http://www.poly.se/english/produkter/produkt-meny-10.htm">http://www.poly.se/english/produkter/produkt-meny-10.htm</a><BR>
<BR>
<BR>
So for all the saltier than thou crowd, or for those
who just want <BR>
some rope that will outlast your boat, check these
out.<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Does anyone know the process for tarring hemp rope?
(not smoking <BR>
it) :- )<BR>
<BR>
Thanks<BR>
<BR>
Jules<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
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TCP content. What about spectra?
--- lulalake_1999 <lulalake_1999@...> wrote:
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<tt>
I've been thinking about rigging lately remembering my
old sailing <BR>
mentor who had a yar vessel, a 40' homebuilt staysail
schooner with a <BR>
great aft cabin, The Christian Rose.<BR>
All the standing rigging was tarred hemp recycled from
a <BR>
decommissioned Navy vessel .<BR>
<BR>
I did some research on the stuff and have found
several sites that <BR>
sell hemp rope and tarred hemp twine.<BR>
<BR>
This one sells the widest variety of hemp ropes at the
best prices, <BR>
up to 2 3/8 diameter hawsers. (That should hold those
micros)<BR>
<a
href="http://hempmasters.com/store/pages/hemptwine2.htm">http://hempmasters.com/store/pages/hemptwine2.htm</a><BR>
<BR>
This one sells tarred hemp twine <BR>
<BR>
<a
href="http://www.poly.se/english/produkter/produkt-meny-10.htm">http://www.poly.se/english/produkter/produkt-meny-10.htm</a><BR>
<BR>
<BR>
So for all the saltier than thou crowd, or for those
who just want <BR>
some rope that will outlast your boat, check these
out.<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Does anyone know the process for tarring hemp rope?
(not smoking <BR>
it) :- )<BR>
<BR>
Thanks<BR>
<BR>
Jules<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
</tt>
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> All the standing rigging was tarred hemp recycled from aAlong the same line, Brian Toss in The Rigger's Apprentice suggests
> decommissioned Navy vessel .
using galvanised wire rigging, served and tarred. The wire is
stronger than stainless, and will last a lifetime if properly cared
for.
PHV
I've been thinking about rigging lately remembering my old sailing
mentor who had a yar vessel, a 40' homebuilt staysail schooner with a
great aft cabin, The Christian Rose.
All the standing rigging was tarred hemp recycled from a
decommissioned Navy vessel .
I did some research on the stuff and have found several sites that
sell hemp rope and tarred hemp twine.
This one sells the widest variety of hemp ropes at the best prices,
up to 2 3/8 diameter hawsers. (That should hold those micros)
http://hempmasters.com/store/pages/hemptwine2.htm
This one sells tarred hemp twine
http://www.poly.se/english/produkter/produkt-meny-10.htm
So for all the saltier than thou crowd, or for those who just want
some rope that will outlast your boat, check these out.
Does anyone know the process for tarring hemp rope? (not smoking
it) :- )
Thanks
Jules
mentor who had a yar vessel, a 40' homebuilt staysail schooner with a
great aft cabin, The Christian Rose.
All the standing rigging was tarred hemp recycled from a
decommissioned Navy vessel .
I did some research on the stuff and have found several sites that
sell hemp rope and tarred hemp twine.
This one sells the widest variety of hemp ropes at the best prices,
up to 2 3/8 diameter hawsers. (That should hold those micros)
http://hempmasters.com/store/pages/hemptwine2.htm
This one sells tarred hemp twine
http://www.poly.se/english/produkter/produkt-meny-10.htm
So for all the saltier than thou crowd, or for those who just want
some rope that will outlast your boat, check these out.
Does anyone know the process for tarring hemp rope? (not smoking
it) :- )
Thanks
Jules