[bolger] Re: Again on cold poured keels
James,
Seventy-five cents a pound!!!? I get lead scrap from the junk dealer--er, recycling specialist--in Oneonta for twenty cents a pound. My Scottish blood could not stand to part with near four times as much. Seems to me you could find a foundry to do the job proper and haul the keel home yourself on a light trailer (such as the one you'll plant the Micro on) for less than that. But I don't know about Italy (or much of anything else, for that matter)...
david
Seventy-five cents a pound!!!? I get lead scrap from the junk dealer--er, recycling specialist--in Oneonta for twenty cents a pound. My Scottish blood could not stand to part with near four times as much. Seems to me you could find a foundry to do the job proper and haul the keel home yourself on a light trailer (such as the one you'll plant the Micro on) for less than that. But I don't know about Italy (or much of anything else, for that matter)...
david
James Fuller wrote:
Hi,
You can buy lead sheet from any large wholesale plumbing supply company.
Also should be able to buy it from a roofing company. It is used
for
flashing materiel around roof openings. You should be able to
buy it for
around .75 cents per pound.
James Fuller
----- Original Message -----
From: "Giuseppe 'Pippo' Bianco" <pippobianco@...>
To: <bolger@egroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 4:29 PM
Subject: [bolger] Again on cold poured keels
> Doug, your info on sphere packing is totally consistent with what
I read
> about.
> More generally, though, I investigated the issue but it appears to
me
> that lead shot is far too expensive around here (luckily enough,
I might
> add, because the hunters in Italy have killed almost all the vertebrates
> in the country).
> I understand though that one can locate lead in sheets (like the
ones
> used for shielding X-ray rooms), which is going to be, in my opinion,
> the easiest possible way to build the Micro's keel...
> Best, Pippo
>
> doug lillico ha scritto:
> >
> > If one wants lower void volumes than 36% to 40%, cast large lead
ingots
> > that
> > are a reasonable match to the dimensions of the keel and
place them
> > one by
> > one. That should yield void volumes of 10% to 20%.
> >
> > Doug
> > (someone who spent way too much of his life packing particles into
> > containers)
>
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Pippo,
Greetings. I've cast many tens of thousands of bullets over the years and
am not terribly bothered by the process. If you go ahead with it, make
certain you have very good ventilation, and leather protective clothing.
The mold can be made from 2 by stock or doubled 3/4 " plywood. With
planning ( I have'nt gotten that far) the mold should be able to be
incorporated into the final structure.
Rennie
Greetings. I've cast many tens of thousands of bullets over the years and
am not terribly bothered by the process. If you go ahead with it, make
certain you have very good ventilation, and leather protective clothing.
The mold can be made from 2 by stock or doubled 3/4 " plywood. With
planning ( I have'nt gotten that far) the mold should be able to be
incorporated into the final structure.
Rennie
>From: Giuseppe 'Pippo' Bianco <pippobianco@...>______________________________________________________
>Reply-To:bolger@egroups.com
>To:bolger@egroups.com
>Subject: [bolger] Re: Again on cold poured keels
>Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 00:20:45 +0100
>
>Hi Rennie
>yes, I can do the same around here quite easily, in particular when
>shopping for tires! I'm however trying to avoid melting...
>Best
>Pippo
>
>Rennie Archibald ha scritto:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have an ongoing project collecting wheelweights from garages in small
> > towns. In the cities the weights are recycled. In the towns and
>villages
> > they often aren't. It doesn't take long to collect 400 lbs. Shooting
> > ranges will often cut you a deal, but you need to cull jacked from lead
> > projectiles.
> >
> > Rennie
> >
> > >From: Giuseppe 'Pippo' Bianco <pippobianco@...>
> > >Reply-To:bolger@egroups.com
> > >To:bolger@egroups.com
> > >Subject: [bolger] Re: Again on cold poured keels
> > >Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 10:21:43 +0100
> > >
> > >James,
> > >the problem around here in Europe is that lead is being considered a
> > >dangerous metal, so it's less and less used in home construction. I
> > >actually think it's forbidden in plumbing, roof work and whatever else.
> > >I've been performing a wide angle search, and have been successfull
>with
> > >a scrap metal dealer (he knows he has the material but has not yet been
> > >able to find it) and with a radiators repair shop.
> > >Best,
> > >Pippo
> > >
> > >James Fuller ha scritto:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > You can buy lead sheet from any large wholesale plumbing supply
>company.
> > > > Also should be able to buy it from a roofing company. It is used
>for
> > > > flashing materiel around roof openings. You should be able to buy
>it
> > >for
> > > > around .75 cents per pound.
> > > >
> > > > James Fuller
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Giuseppe 'Pippo' Bianco" <pippobianco@...>
> > > > To: <bolger@egroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 4:29 PM
> > > > Subject: [bolger] Again on cold poured keels
> > > >
> > > > > Doug, your info on sphere packing is totally consistent with what
>I
> > >read
> > > > > about.
> > > > > More generally, though, I investigated the issue but it appears to
>me
> > > > > that lead shot is far too expensive around here (luckily enough, I
> > >might
> > > > > add, because the hunters in Italy have killed almost all the
> > >vertebrates
> > > > > in the country).
> > > > > I understand though that one can locate lead in sheets (like the
>ones
> > > > > used for shielding X-ray rooms), which is going to be, in my
>opinion,
> > > > > the easiest possible way to build the Micro's keel...
> > > > > Best, Pippo
> > > > >
> > > > > doug lillico ha scritto:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If one wants lower void volumes than 36% to 40%, cast large lead
> > >ingots
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > are a reasonable match to the dimensions of the keel and place
>them
> > > > > > one by
> > > > > > one. That should yield void volumes of 10% to 20%.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Doug
> > > > > > (someone who spent way too much of his life packing particles
>into
> > > > > > containers)
> > > > >
> > > > >
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Hi Rennie
yes, I can do the same around here quite easily, in particular when
shopping for tires! I'm however trying to avoid melting...
Best
Pippo
Rennie Archibald ha scritto:
yes, I can do the same around here quite easily, in particular when
shopping for tires! I'm however trying to avoid melting...
Best
Pippo
Rennie Archibald ha scritto:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have an ongoing project collecting wheelweights from garages in small
> towns. In the cities the weights are recycled. In the towns and villages
> they often aren't. It doesn't take long to collect 400 lbs. Shooting
> ranges will often cut you a deal, but you need to cull jacked from lead
> projectiles.
>
> Rennie
>
> >From: Giuseppe 'Pippo' Bianco <pippobianco@...>
> >Reply-To:bolger@egroups.com
> >To:bolger@egroups.com
> >Subject: [bolger] Re: Again on cold poured keels
> >Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 10:21:43 +0100
> >
> >James,
> >the problem around here in Europe is that lead is being considered a
> >dangerous metal, so it's less and less used in home construction. I
> >actually think it's forbidden in plumbing, roof work and whatever else.
> >I've been performing a wide angle search, and have been successfull with
> >a scrap metal dealer (he knows he has the material but has not yet been
> >able to find it) and with a radiators repair shop.
> >Best,
> >Pippo
> >
> >James Fuller ha scritto:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > You can buy lead sheet from any large wholesale plumbing supply company.
> > > Also should be able to buy it from a roofing company. It is used for
> > > flashing materiel around roof openings. You should be able to buy it
> >for
> > > around .75 cents per pound.
> > >
> > > James Fuller
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Giuseppe 'Pippo' Bianco" <pippobianco@...>
> > > To: <bolger@egroups.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 4:29 PM
> > > Subject: [bolger] Again on cold poured keels
> > >
> > > > Doug, your info on sphere packing is totally consistent with what I
> >read
> > > > about.
> > > > More generally, though, I investigated the issue but it appears to me
> > > > that lead shot is far too expensive around here (luckily enough, I
> >might
> > > > add, because the hunters in Italy have killed almost all the
> >vertebrates
> > > > in the country).
> > > > I understand though that one can locate lead in sheets (like the ones
> > > > used for shielding X-ray rooms), which is going to be, in my opinion,
> > > > the easiest possible way to build the Micro's keel...
> > > > Best, Pippo
> > > >
> > > > doug lillico ha scritto:
> > > > >
> > > > > If one wants lower void volumes than 36% to 40%, cast large lead
> >ingots
> > > > > that
> > > > > are a reasonable match to the dimensions of the keel and place them
> > > > > one by
> > > > > one. That should yield void volumes of 10% to 20%.
> > > > >
> > > > > Doug
> > > > > (someone who spent way too much of his life packing particles into
> > > > > containers)
> > > >
> > > >
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Hi,
I have an ongoing project collecting wheelweights from garages in small
towns. In the cities the weights are recycled. In the towns and villages
they often aren't. It doesn't take long to collect 400 lbs. Shooting
ranges will often cut you a deal, but you need to cull jacked from lead
projectiles.
Rennie
I have an ongoing project collecting wheelweights from garages in small
towns. In the cities the weights are recycled. In the towns and villages
they often aren't. It doesn't take long to collect 400 lbs. Shooting
ranges will often cut you a deal, but you need to cull jacked from lead
projectiles.
Rennie
>From: Giuseppe 'Pippo' Bianco <pippobianco@...>______________________________________________________
>Reply-To:bolger@egroups.com
>To:bolger@egroups.com
>Subject: [bolger] Re: Again on cold poured keels
>Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 10:21:43 +0100
>
>James,
>the problem around here in Europe is that lead is being considered a
>dangerous metal, so it's less and less used in home construction. I
>actually think it's forbidden in plumbing, roof work and whatever else.
>I've been performing a wide angle search, and have been successfull with
>a scrap metal dealer (he knows he has the material but has not yet been
>able to find it) and with a radiators repair shop.
>Best,
>Pippo
>
>James Fuller ha scritto:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > You can buy lead sheet from any large wholesale plumbing supply company.
> > Also should be able to buy it from a roofing company. It is used for
> > flashing materiel around roof openings. You should be able to buy it
>for
> > around .75 cents per pound.
> >
> > James Fuller
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Giuseppe 'Pippo' Bianco" <pippobianco@...>
> > To: <bolger@egroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 4:29 PM
> > Subject: [bolger] Again on cold poured keels
> >
> > > Doug, your info on sphere packing is totally consistent with what I
>read
> > > about.
> > > More generally, though, I investigated the issue but it appears to me
> > > that lead shot is far too expensive around here (luckily enough, I
>might
> > > add, because the hunters in Italy have killed almost all the
>vertebrates
> > > in the country).
> > > I understand though that one can locate lead in sheets (like the ones
> > > used for shielding X-ray rooms), which is going to be, in my opinion,
> > > the easiest possible way to build the Micro's keel...
> > > Best, Pippo
> > >
> > > doug lillico ha scritto:
> > > >
> > > > If one wants lower void volumes than 36% to 40%, cast large lead
>ingots
> > > > that
> > > > are a reasonable match to the dimensions of the keel and place them
> > > > one by
> > > > one. That should yield void volumes of 10% to 20%.
> > > >
> > > > Doug
> > > > (someone who spent way too much of his life packing particles into
> > > > containers)
> > >
> > >
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James,
the problem around here in Europe is that lead is being considered a
dangerous metal, so it's less and less used in home construction. I
actually think it's forbidden in plumbing, roof work and whatever else.
I've been performing a wide angle search, and have been successfull with
a scrap metal dealer (he knows he has the material but has not yet been
able to find it) and with a radiators repair shop.
Best,
Pippo
James Fuller ha scritto:
the problem around here in Europe is that lead is being considered a
dangerous metal, so it's less and less used in home construction. I
actually think it's forbidden in plumbing, roof work and whatever else.
I've been performing a wide angle search, and have been successfull with
a scrap metal dealer (he knows he has the material but has not yet been
able to find it) and with a radiators repair shop.
Best,
Pippo
James Fuller ha scritto:
>
> Hi,
>
> You can buy lead sheet from any large wholesale plumbing supply company.
> Also should be able to buy it from a roofing company. It is used for
> flashing materiel around roof openings. You should be able to buy it for
> around .75 cents per pound.
>
> James Fuller
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Giuseppe 'Pippo' Bianco" <pippobianco@...>
> To: <bolger@egroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 4:29 PM
> Subject: [bolger] Again on cold poured keels
>
> > Doug, your info on sphere packing is totally consistent with what I read
> > about.
> > More generally, though, I investigated the issue but it appears to me
> > that lead shot is far too expensive around here (luckily enough, I might
> > add, because the hunters in Italy have killed almost all the vertebrates
> > in the country).
> > I understand though that one can locate lead in sheets (like the ones
> > used for shielding X-ray rooms), which is going to be, in my opinion,
> > the easiest possible way to build the Micro's keel...
> > Best, Pippo
> >
> > doug lillico ha scritto:
> > >
> > > If one wants lower void volumes than 36% to 40%, cast large lead ingots
> > > that
> > > are a reasonable match to the dimensions of the keel and place them
> > > one by
> > > one. That should yield void volumes of 10% to 20%.
> > >
> > > Doug
> > > (someone who spent way too much of his life packing particles into
> > > containers)
> >
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Hi,
You can buy lead sheet from any large wholesale plumbing supply company.
Also should be able to buy it from a roofing company. It is used for
flashing materiel around roof openings. You should be able to buy it for
around .75 cents per pound.
James Fuller
You can buy lead sheet from any large wholesale plumbing supply company.
Also should be able to buy it from a roofing company. It is used for
flashing materiel around roof openings. You should be able to buy it for
around .75 cents per pound.
James Fuller
----- Original Message -----
From: "Giuseppe 'Pippo' Bianco" <pippobianco@...>
To: <bolger@egroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 4:29 PM
Subject: [bolger] Again on cold poured keels
> Doug, your info on sphere packing is totally consistent with what I read
> about.
> More generally, though, I investigated the issue but it appears to me
> that lead shot is far too expensive around here (luckily enough, I might
> add, because the hunters in Italy have killed almost all the vertebrates
> in the country).
> I understand though that one can locate lead in sheets (like the ones
> used for shielding X-ray rooms), which is going to be, in my opinion,
> the easiest possible way to build the Micro's keel...
> Best, Pippo
>
> doug lillico ha scritto:
> >
> > If one wants lower void volumes than 36% to 40%, cast large lead ingots
> > that
> > are a reasonable match to the dimensions of the keel and place them
> > one by
> > one. That should yield void volumes of 10% to 20%.
> >
> > Doug
> > (someone who spent way too much of his life packing particles into
> > containers)
>
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Doug, your info on sphere packing is totally consistent with what I read
about.
More generally, though, I investigated the issue but it appears to me
that lead shot is far too expensive around here (luckily enough, I might
add, because the hunters in Italy have killed almost all the vertebrates
in the country).
I understand though that one can locate lead in sheets (like the ones
used for shielding X-ray rooms), which is going to be, in my opinion,
the easiest possible way to build the Micro's keel...
Best, Pippo
doug lillico ha scritto:
about.
More generally, though, I investigated the issue but it appears to me
that lead shot is far too expensive around here (luckily enough, I might
add, because the hunters in Italy have killed almost all the vertebrates
in the country).
I understand though that one can locate lead in sheets (like the ones
used for shielding X-ray rooms), which is going to be, in my opinion,
the easiest possible way to build the Micro's keel...
Best, Pippo
doug lillico ha scritto:
>
> If one wants lower void volumes than 36% to 40%, cast large lead ingots
> that
> are a reasonable match to the dimensions of the keel and place them
> one by
> one. That should yield void volumes of 10% to 20%.
>
> Doug
> (someone who spent way too much of his life packing particles into
> containers)