Re: Bottom paint
--- In bolger@y..., "ntsrfer" <ktsrfer@m...> wrote:
taking a large blue poly tarp, tying stones on two corners with very
long strings. Drop the tarp and pull it from bow to stern, up tight
to the hull expelling out most of the water. Then pour $10 worth of
swimming pool chlorine into the water trapped in the space between
the tarp and the hull.
$10 buys 4 gallons of pool grade chlorine which is 4x the strength
of 'Chlorox'. You may not even need more than a gallon to be
effective.
Many times I have used chlorine to clean some really gunky rocks from
an aquarium which I keep, it works great, essentially melting
stubborn the algae in about one hour. 1 cup in a 5 gallon bucket.
While chlorine is toxic in the short term, it disapates quickly when
exposed to sunlight. Most people drink diluted chlorine in their tap
water daily.
>easy on the sea life, easy on the pocket book.Excuse me for maybe thinking out of the box, how about 'at anchor'
taking a large blue poly tarp, tying stones on two corners with very
long strings. Drop the tarp and pull it from bow to stern, up tight
to the hull expelling out most of the water. Then pour $10 worth of
swimming pool chlorine into the water trapped in the space between
the tarp and the hull.
$10 buys 4 gallons of pool grade chlorine which is 4x the strength
of 'Chlorox'. You may not even need more than a gallon to be
effective.
Many times I have used chlorine to clean some really gunky rocks from
an aquarium which I keep, it works great, essentially melting
stubborn the algae in about one hour. 1 cup in a 5 gallon bucket.
While chlorine is toxic in the short term, it disapates quickly when
exposed to sunlight. Most people drink diluted chlorine in their tap
water daily.
Okay, paint with plant poison, Paint with plant matter , and paint
priced for the the rich and famous.
I'm drowning and I havn't even hit the water...........
How about one part polyurethane on the whole boat? Is it more trouble
than its worth? Or should I say, is it worth the trouble $$$ The boat
will be pulled out after ever sail. Each sailing adventure no more
than three nights 2 days tops.
Maybe I'll go back to what I know. My brick and my mayfly are painted
with Kils 2 primer and exterior acrylic latex house paint. Easy to
work with, easy on the sea life, easy on the pocket book.
Todd
priced for the the rich and famous.
I'm drowning and I havn't even hit the water...........
How about one part polyurethane on the whole boat? Is it more trouble
than its worth? Or should I say, is it worth the trouble $$$ The boat
will be pulled out after ever sail. Each sailing adventure no more
than three nights 2 days tops.
Maybe I'll go back to what I know. My brick and my mayfly are painted
with Kils 2 primer and exterior acrylic latex house paint. Easy to
work with, easy on the sea life, easy on the pocket book.
Todd
--- In bolger@y..., "ntsrfer" <ktsrfer@m...> wrote:
> --- In bolger@y..., "ntsrfer" <ktsrfer@m...> wrote:
>
> What about using Interlux Ultra kote?
>
> Todd
Hot! What would the persistence of this stuff be in a
watery environment.
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The use of aquatic plant poison in paints for anti-fouling has
evolved into a gold mine for the paint manufactures. While I am not a
tree hugger, traveling through the water with a skull and cross bones
painted on the bottom of my boat to reject marine life seems like
overkill.
New technologies incorporate the lowly cayenne pepper to stop growth
below the water line but there is something better. Peppers are rated
in Scoville units. Jalapeno peppers are rated at about 1,100.
Cayenne are rated higher at 30,000 Scoville units and they seem to
keep bottom critters from attaching to the hull. There are new
genetically engineered peppers that will make your hull persona non
grata to any marine life.
The new Red Sevina Pepper has the unbelievable Scoville rating of
500,000. If you mix this powdered pepper in with your paint be sure
to use a respirator and gloved hands. This is the combination I will
use on my next boat bottom. Who knows, the bottom maybe so hot I'll
gain extra free board from the steam generation(LOL).
evolved into a gold mine for the paint manufactures. While I am not a
tree hugger, traveling through the water with a skull and cross bones
painted on the bottom of my boat to reject marine life seems like
overkill.
New technologies incorporate the lowly cayenne pepper to stop growth
below the water line but there is something better. Peppers are rated
in Scoville units. Jalapeno peppers are rated at about 1,100.
Cayenne are rated higher at 30,000 Scoville units and they seem to
keep bottom critters from attaching to the hull. There are new
genetically engineered peppers that will make your hull persona non
grata to any marine life.
The new Red Sevina Pepper has the unbelievable Scoville rating of
500,000. If you mix this powdered pepper in with your paint be sure
to use a respirator and gloved hands. This is the combination I will
use on my next boat bottom. Who knows, the bottom maybe so hot I'll
gain extra free board from the steam generation(LOL).
--- In bolger@y..., "ntsrfer" <ktsrfer@m...> wrote:
What about using Interlux Ultra kote?
Todd
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> Aluminum roof paint? Now there's an interesting idea. Create enough
> glare to blind the glass go-fast-and-make-a-big-wake skippers and
> drive 'em into the rocks.
> Bolger would be proud.
>
a few years ago i rolled up to a landyacht competition with a new
aluminium racer so shiny and bright that everybody was very
impressed. and said so.
the Physcological effect on my opponents was excellent ( How do I
have a hope of beating that? etc), until the first race. when the
race started i was so blinded by my own yachts reflection I lost a
couple of valuableplaces in the race. Next race it had all been
covered in black mud and they could'nt catch me .
( this is because the yacht was so good an idiot could win races in
it!!)
Cheers Paul
Here you go.
http://www.epoxyproducts.com/mproducts.html#Copper
Roger S
http://www.epoxyproducts.com/mproducts.html#Copper
Roger S
--- In bolger@y..., "Richard Spelling" <richard@c...> wrote:
> Surely we could buy powederd copper and mix our own for less than
$285 a
> gallon? Add titainium dioxide for uv, and fumed silica to help
with sag?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <stephensonhw@a...>
> To: <bolger@y...>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 3:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [bolger] Re: Bottom paint
>
>
> | In a message dated 28-05-02 7:50:25 AM E. Australia Standard
Time,
> | mwagner@f... writes:
> |
> |
> | > IMHO there's only one way to go - CopperPoxy. It is very
expensive
> | > ($285/gallon) but lasts a LONG time. I did my micro with it in
1995
> | > and haven't touched the bottom since, other than cleaning. It
holds up
> | > well in the air (as in trailered boat) and can be cleaned in
the water
> | > if you leave the boat in. (Use
> |
> | Why not paint bottom and topsides with it?
> |
> | Howard
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Even buying powdered copper isn't cheap these days; and how can you be
sure of correct proportions? The stuff must have some kind of built in
UV protection. My Micro sits out most of the year and gets quite a bit
of sun. So far there has been no effect noted on the Copperpoxy. As
for doing the the topsides with the stuff - no way! It is HEAVY! And
it soaks up heat in the sun. I wouldn't want to be taking an afternoon
nap (or other afternoon "delights") with the sun beating down on
copperpoxy topsides.
Aluminum roof paint? Now there's an interesting idea. Create enough
glare to blind the glass go-fast-and-make-a-big-wake skippers and
drive 'em into the rocks.
Bolger would be proud.
sure of correct proportions? The stuff must have some kind of built in
UV protection. My Micro sits out most of the year and gets quite a bit
of sun. So far there has been no effect noted on the Copperpoxy. As
for doing the the topsides with the stuff - no way! It is HEAVY! And
it soaks up heat in the sun. I wouldn't want to be taking an afternoon
nap (or other afternoon "delights") with the sun beating down on
copperpoxy topsides.
Aluminum roof paint? Now there's an interesting idea. Create enough
glare to blind the glass go-fast-and-make-a-big-wake skippers and
drive 'em into the rocks.
Bolger would be proud.
--- In bolger@y..., stephensonhw@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 29-05-02 6:58:37 AM E. Australia Standard Time,
> richard@c... writes:
>
>
> > Surely we could buy powederd copper and mix our own for less than
$285 a
> > gallon? Add titainium dioxide for uv, and fumed silica to help
with sag?
> >
>
> Makes sense. I was thinking that topsides and bottom with a coppery
sheen
> would look smart with, say, a yellow , orange or green boottop.
>
> Somewhere PCB (had to get his name in somewhere -- this is supposed
to be a
> Bolger group) suggests painting a hull topsides with aluminium roof
paint.
>
> Howard
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Surely we could buy powederd copper and mix our own for less than $285 a
gallon? Add titainium dioxide for uv, and fumed silica to help with sag?
gallon? Add titainium dioxide for uv, and fumed silica to help with sag?
----- Original Message -----
From: <stephensonhw@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [bolger] Re: Bottom paint
| In a message dated 28-05-02 7:50:25 AM E. Australia Standard Time,
|mwagner@...writes:
|
|
| > IMHO there's only one way to go - CopperPoxy. It is very expensive
| > ($285/gallon) but lasts a LONG time. I did my micro with it in 1995
| > and haven't touched the bottom since, other than cleaning. It holds up
| > well in the air (as in trailered boat) and can be cleaned in the water
| > if you leave the boat in. (Use
|
| Why not paint bottom and topsides with it?
|
| Howard
|
|
| [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
|
|
|
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In a message dated 29-05-02 6:58:37 AM E. Australia Standard Time,
richard@...writes:
would look smart with, say, a yellow , orange or green boottop.
Somewhere PCB (had to get his name in somewhere -- this is supposed to be a
Bolger group) suggests painting a hull topsides with aluminium roof paint.
Howard
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
richard@...writes:
> Surely we could buy powederd copper and mix our own for less than $285 aMakes sense. I was thinking that topsides and bottom with a coppery sheen
> gallon? Add titainium dioxide for uv, and fumed silica to help with sag?
>
would look smart with, say, a yellow , orange or green boottop.
Somewhere PCB (had to get his name in somewhere -- this is supposed to be a
Bolger group) suggests painting a hull topsides with aluminium roof paint.
Howard
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
In a message dated 28-05-02 7:50:25 AM E. Australia Standard Time,
mwagner@...writes:
Howard
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
mwagner@...writes:
> IMHO there's only one way to go - CopperPoxy. It is very expensiveWhy not paint bottom and topsides with it?
> ($285/gallon) but lasts a LONG time. I did my micro with it in 1995
> and haven't touched the bottom since, other than cleaning. It holds up
> well in the air (as in trailered boat) and can be cleaned in the water
> if you leave the boat in. (Use
Howard
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
IMHO there's only one way to go - CopperPoxy. It is very expensive
($285/gallon) but lasts a LONG time. I did my micro with it in 1995
and haven't touched the bottom since, other than cleaning. It holds up
well in the air (as in trailered boat) and can be cleaned in the water
if you leave the boat in. (Use a "dry diver" - a big foam float on a
stick, covered with material like Scotch Brite.) This stuff will not
rub off, scrape off or disolve like other bottom paints.
It also enhances the water barrier and thus helps preserve the
underlying wood.
($285/gallon) but lasts a LONG time. I did my micro with it in 1995
and haven't touched the bottom since, other than cleaning. It holds up
well in the air (as in trailered boat) and can be cleaned in the water
if you leave the boat in. (Use a "dry diver" - a big foam float on a
stick, covered with material like Scotch Brite.) This stuff will not
rub off, scrape off or disolve like other bottom paints.
It also enhances the water barrier and thus helps preserve the
underlying wood.
--- In bolger@y..., "ntsrfer" <ktsrfer@m...> wrote:
>
> Bottom paint that is cheap easy to apply and does not cost and
will
> stick to epoxy? The boat has been stored on trailor and wll be
stored
> on trailor.
>
> I just purchased a Micro that needs bottom paint.
>
> Any articles out there on stripping and fairing hulls?
>
> Todd
Here's a pretty good article of stripping and fairing.
http://multihullboatbuilder.com/workshop/TedWarrenWRCStripPlanking.ht
ml
Jules
http://multihullboatbuilder.com/workshop/TedWarrenWRCStripPlanking.ht
ml
Jules
--- In bolger@y..., "ntsrfer" <ktsrfer@m...> wrote:
>
> Bottom paint that is cheap easy to apply and does not cost and
will
> stick to epoxy? The boat has been stored on trailor and wll be
stored
> on trailor.
>
> I just purchased a Micro that needs bottom paint.
>
> Any articles out there on stripping and fairing hulls?
>
> Todd
Bottom paint that is cheap easy to apply and does not cost and will
stick to epoxy? The boat has been stored on trailor and wll be stored
on trailor.
I just purchased a Micro that needs bottom paint.
Any articles out there on stripping and fairing hulls?
Todd
stick to epoxy? The boat has been stored on trailor and wll be stored
on trailor.
I just purchased a Micro that needs bottom paint.
Any articles out there on stripping and fairing hulls?
Todd