Re: A question about a book that discusses Bolger.
--- In bolger@y..., "rnlocnil" <lincolnr@m...> wrote:
the next in lapstrake, the next in taped chine and so forth. I
didn't mean this remark competitively. Think of Storey boats, they
have run off a bunch of Bolger designs, presumably at some point they
build some others. It is natural for builders to build to many
client's preferences and to try many different things. So when
considering which TFJ book to try, one may wish to check it out a
little more closely than you might a Bolger book, it is unpredictable
what will be in it construction wise.
> More eclectic than Bolger? Are you talking about building orcruising
> designing? I'm not sure it's possible to be more eclectic in your
> designs than Bolger. A square rigged ship, tiny plywood homebuilts
> like Brick and Teal, a normal looking Whitehall boat, ocean
> powerboats, viking longship reproduction, runabouts, ocean fishingthough.
> boats, sailing cruisers, etc etc etc. I agree TFJ is eclectic,
> --- In bolger@y..., "proaconstrictor" <proaconstrictor@y...> wrote:on
> snip TFJ
> > writes rather like Bolger, but as a builder the projects he takes
> > are more eclectic. snipI am talking about building. TFJ will build one boat in foam core,
the next in lapstrake, the next in taped chine and so forth. I
didn't mean this remark competitively. Think of Storey boats, they
have run off a bunch of Bolger designs, presumably at some point they
build some others. It is natural for builders to build to many
client's preferences and to try many different things. So when
considering which TFJ book to try, one may wish to check it out a
little more closely than you might a Bolger book, it is unpredictable
what will be in it construction wise.
More eclectic than Bolger? Are you talking about building or
designing? I'm not sure it's possible to be more eclectic in your
designs than Bolger. A square rigged ship, tiny plywood homebuilts
like Brick and Teal, a normal looking Whitehall boat, ocean cruising
powerboats, viking longship reproduction, runabouts, ocean fishing
boats, sailing cruisers, etc etc etc. I agree TFJ is eclectic, though.
designing? I'm not sure it's possible to be more eclectic in your
designs than Bolger. A square rigged ship, tiny plywood homebuilts
like Brick and Teal, a normal looking Whitehall boat, ocean cruising
powerboats, viking longship reproduction, runabouts, ocean fishing
boats, sailing cruisers, etc etc etc. I agree TFJ is eclectic, though.
--- In bolger@y..., "proaconstrictor" <proaconstrictor@y...> wrote:
snip TFJ
> writes rather like Bolger, but as a builder the projects he takes on
> are more eclectic. snip
Not "designs", but one design -- Bobcat -- which TFJ built, with
alterations, for a client. Interesting to see how TFJ's approach to
building works with/around PCBs approach to designing.
alterations, for a client. Interesting to see how TFJ's approach to
building works with/around PCBs approach to designing.
--- In bolger@y..., "announcer97624" <announcer97624@y...> wrote:
> Has anyone read the book, New Plywood Boats by Thomas Firth Jones?
> It is supposed to devote a major portion on Bolger designs and
> building them.
The section on Bolger is pleasant enough, I don't recall anything too
startlingly new in it. It is a section of a length that could easily
be read in one of those Book stores like Barnes and Noble that allow
extensive "brousing"
I have all of TFJ's books, but I would look at those specificaly to
determine which ones cover boats of greatest interest to you, rather
than buying the book on the basis of the Bolger chapter alone. TFJ
writes rather like Bolger, but as a builder the projects he takes on
are more eclectic. He choose a variety of materials etc... it seems
at times, just to get experience of them. So in certain cases he
speaks from a perspective of expertese, and in other case as a rank
beginer. I would certainly rather build one of his multihulls than
Bolgers.
startlingly new in it. It is a section of a length that could easily
be read in one of those Book stores like Barnes and Noble that allow
extensive "brousing"
I have all of TFJ's books, but I would look at those specificaly to
determine which ones cover boats of greatest interest to you, rather
than buying the book on the basis of the Bolger chapter alone. TFJ
writes rather like Bolger, but as a builder the projects he takes on
are more eclectic. He choose a variety of materials etc... it seems
at times, just to get experience of them. So in certain cases he
speaks from a perspective of expertese, and in other case as a rank
beginer. I would certainly rather build one of his multihulls than
Bolgers.
I'll go along with that. I've read the book several times. Firth
writes well and is entertaining. I suspect his boats are good ones. I
wish he liked to row. As I recall he hasn't revealed quite as much of
his client's foibles as in the previous book, but I have to admit that
some of the stories are entertaining. Most of the book is indeed about
the boats, tho.
writes well and is entertaining. I suspect his boats are good ones. I
wish he liked to row. As I recall he hasn't revealed quite as much of
his client's foibles as in the previous book, but I have to admit that
some of the stories are entertaining. Most of the book is indeed about
the boats, tho.
--- In bolger@y..., Sakari Aaltonen <sakari@a...> wrote:
> > Has anyone read the book, New Plywood Boats by Thomas Firth
Jones?
> > It is supposed to devote a major portion on Bolger designs and
> > building them. I don't want to buy the book if it doesn't have the
> > approval of the esteemed members of this forum.
>
> I have read the book and liked it very much. However, there is not
> really a portion on Bolger designs and building them. What is there
> is an "appreciation" of Bolger, whom Jones apparently knows well.
> A photograph of Bolger sitting in Jones's boat is included.
>
>
> Sakari Aaltonen
> Has anyone read the book, New Plywood Boats by Thomas Firth Jones?I have read the book and liked it very much. However, there is not
> It is supposed to devote a major portion on Bolger designs and
> building them. I don't want to buy the book if it doesn't have the
> approval of the esteemed members of this forum.
really a portion on Bolger designs and building them. What is there
is an "appreciation" of Bolger, whom Jones apparently knows well.
A photograph of Bolger sitting in Jones's boat is included.
Sakari Aaltonen
Has anyone read the book, New Plywood Boats by Thomas Firth Jones?
It is supposed to devote a major portion on Bolger designs and
building them. I don't want to buy the book if it doesn't have the
approval of the esteemed members of this forum.
John
It is supposed to devote a major portion on Bolger designs and
building them. I don't want to buy the book if it doesn't have the
approval of the esteemed members of this forum.
John