Re: bright finish recommendations please
I wonder if I could cross match that color in a $20/gal. gloss latex
--- In bolger@y..., "sneakeasy2000" <sbosquette@c...> wrote:
> It is Brightwork Brown by Petit marine paints. It is very easy to
> apply and keeps its glossy finish.
It is Brightwork Brown by Petit marine paints. It is very easy to
apply and keeps its glossy finish. I would have liked to put a laid
deck on the Sneakeasy but don't have skill or courage! This turned
out to be an excellent alternative.
Steve Bosquette
apply and keeps its glossy finish. I would have liked to put a laid
deck on the Sneakeasy but don't have skill or courage! This turned
out to be an excellent alternative.
Steve Bosquette
> I doubt I could get a boat to look that good if I spent two yearson
> the finish.
>
> Peter
> Can anyone recommend a paint color that looks like mahogany at 100First, don't take my bad experiences with fir plywood too seriously
> yards??
unless you get confirmation from better boatbuilders.
Second, take a look here:
http://www.geocities.com/sneakeasy2000/index.html
The deck paint is described as "Brightwork Brown."
I doubt I could get a boat to look that good if I spent two years on
the finish.
Peter
Can anyone recommend a paint color that looks like mahogany at 100
yards??
yards??
> > Fir plywood usually looks pretty ugly stained and varnished, at
> least
> > to my eye.
> >
> > PHV
On my micro, I sealed all surfaces with WEST and then applied 5 coats
of Interlux polyurethene (Clipper), even the hatch board, which is
fir ply looks good. (It is also glassed with 6 oz cloth, and I think
that makes a difference). finishing off glassed surfaces is
relatively easy. The open grain of unfinished ply just soaks up too
much epoxy and varnish to make it worth the bother. The spars were
sealed with WEST and coated with polyurethane. After a year of
exposure they still look brand new. Annual maintenance is still a
necessity.
For what it's worth.
David Jost
"time to go fishing in Diablo!"
of Interlux polyurethene (Clipper), even the hatch board, which is
fir ply looks good. (It is also glassed with 6 oz cloth, and I think
that makes a difference). finishing off glassed surfaces is
relatively easy. The open grain of unfinished ply just soaks up too
much epoxy and varnish to make it worth the bother. The spars were
sealed with WEST and coated with polyurethane. After a year of
exposure they still look brand new. Annual maintenance is still a
necessity.
For what it's worth.
David Jost
"time to go fishing in Diablo!"
> Fir plywood usually looks pretty ugly stained and varnished, atleast
> to my eye.
>
> PHV
> Can one finish every wood bright?Fir plywood usually looks pretty ugly stained and varnished, at least
to my eye.
PHV
Hal --
I've tried to bright-finish a few of my projects, usually the decking
and gunwales. The lauan decking with only varnish checks pretty
quickly -- after one season. (I admit I store my boats outdoors most
of the time and treat them pretty roughly.)
But on one boat I clear-coated the decking (lauan) with epoxy, and
then laid down two coats of UV-resistant Spar Urethane. It's still
very clear and unchecked after two seasons (including spending the
winter frozen into our little cow pond). The only flaw I see so far
is that water has been creeping into the wood from the sides and
beginning a slow color change beneath the epoxy. I didn't spend
enough time sealing the edges with epoxy, and would focus on that
more next time, maybe even seal the underside, too.
Over time, the epoxy itself might degrade if it gets too much UV. I'm
going to recoat with the spar urethane soon just to prevent that.
My 2 cents.
Good luck!
All best,
Garth
I've tried to bright-finish a few of my projects, usually the decking
and gunwales. The lauan decking with only varnish checks pretty
quickly -- after one season. (I admit I store my boats outdoors most
of the time and treat them pretty roughly.)
But on one boat I clear-coated the decking (lauan) with epoxy, and
then laid down two coats of UV-resistant Spar Urethane. It's still
very clear and unchecked after two seasons (including spending the
winter frozen into our little cow pond). The only flaw I see so far
is that water has been creeping into the wood from the sides and
beginning a slow color change beneath the epoxy. I didn't spend
enough time sealing the edges with epoxy, and would focus on that
more next time, maybe even seal the underside, too.
Over time, the epoxy itself might degrade if it gets too much UV. I'm
going to recoat with the spar urethane soon just to prevent that.
My 2 cents.
Good luck!
All best,
Garth
FYI
In the 'Classic boat' magazine of May, you can find a test report
with the results of a three year varnish test. (three coats)
A couple of the varnishes used already deteriorated after one year.
After three years, the best was Novatech.
Additional question:
Can one finish every wood bright. In my next (first big) project
I'm thinking of varnishing and will (probably) use Okoume plywood
('Bruynzeel', which seems to be very good quality) or should I better
use the Mahogany plywood, which is for my taste to dark (and twice as expensive).
Jacky
---- Original Message -----
From: Bruce Fountain
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 3:49 AM
Subject: Re: [bolger] bright finish recommendations please
In the 'Classic boat' magazine of May, you can find a test report
with the results of a three year varnish test. (three coats)
A couple of the varnishes used already deteriorated after one year.
After three years, the best was Novatech.
Additional question:
Can one finish every wood bright. In my next (first big) project
I'm thinking of varnishing and will (probably) use Okoume plywood
('Bruynzeel', which seems to be very good quality) or should I better
use the Mahogany plywood, which is for my taste to dark (and twice as expensive).
Jacky
---- Original Message -----
From: Bruce Fountain
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 3:49 AM
Subject: Re: [bolger] bright finish recommendations please
On Thursday 11 July 2002 04:26, Hal Lynch wrote:
> My Teal the Rayovac II is finally ready for paint. I
> am considering a bright finish for the rudder and leeboard.
>
> Here are my thoughts so far:
> Mahogany stain to give the plywood some color.
> *Something* over the stain which will not self destruct
> in the sun and weather.
>
> My questions:
> Should I lose the bright idea, no pun intended?
> If not what should I use for the *something* above?
> Any other words of wisdom for someone who would starve
> to death if he had to paint for a living?
I suggest a water-based stain, two coats of epoxy, and several
coats of UV-blocking varnish. Store out of the sun. Even with
heavy use a light scrub and a new coat of varnish annually
should be all you need, if that. It will look great!
--
Bruce Fountain (fountainb@...)
Senior Software Engineer
Union Switch and Signal Pty Ltd
Perth Western Australia
tel: +618 9256 0083
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
On Thursday 11 July 2002 04:26, Hal Lynch wrote:
coats of UV-blocking varnish. Store out of the sun. Even with
heavy use a light scrub and a new coat of varnish annually
should be all you need, if that. It will look great!
--
Bruce Fountain (fountainb@...)
Senior Software Engineer
Union Switch and Signal Pty Ltd
Perth Western Australia
tel: +618 9256 0083
> My Teal the Rayovac II is finally ready for paint. II suggest a water-based stain, two coats of epoxy, and several
> am considering a bright finish for the rudder and leeboard.
>
> Here are my thoughts so far:
> Mahogany stain to give the plywood some color.
> *Something* over the stain which will not self destruct
> in the sun and weather.
>
> My questions:
> Should I lose the bright idea, no pun intended?
> If not what should I use for the *something* above?
> Any other words of wisdom for someone who would starve
> to death if he had to paint for a living?
coats of UV-blocking varnish. Store out of the sun. Even with
heavy use a light scrub and a new coat of varnish annually
should be all you need, if that. It will look great!
--
Bruce Fountain (fountainb@...)
Senior Software Engineer
Union Switch and Signal Pty Ltd
Perth Western Australia
tel: +618 9256 0083
I heard the oil used for wooden rifle butts last very well and no need to
sand between layers. It form a layer like vanish.
Paul - NZ
sand between layers. It form a layer like vanish.
Paul - NZ
> In view of the refinish every year scenario I just mayhal,
> lose the bright idea.
>
Fact is, a bright finish really does look nice and to many is much more pleasant to live
on than paint. And the woodwork doesn't have to be at all perfect to reap a lot of oohs
and ahs, either.
Depending on the exposure, with a high UV resistant varnish you might actually only have
to redo it every couple of years or more. Just sand and slap it on. Alternatively, an oil
finish is worth while and even easier to keep.
Mark
As someone else who would starve if he had to paint for a living, I
suggest you look for a finish of the non-brushing variety, the ones
you put on with a rag. I find that easier. I had a product that I
used to refinish ("varnish") some stairs that I might try.
If you keep the bright parts out of the sun when the boat is not in
use, the finish should last quite awhile, except for scratches.
Peter
suggest you look for a finish of the non-brushing variety, the ones
you put on with a rag. I find that easier. I had a product that I
used to refinish ("varnish") some stairs that I might try.
If you keep the bright parts out of the sun when the boat is not in
use, the finish should last quite awhile, except for scratches.
Peter
On Wednesday, July 10, 2002, at 03:12 PM, Richard Spelling wrote:
In view of the refinish every year scenario I just may
lose the bright idea.
hal
> Even better!Thanks I needed that. LOL
> hehehehe
>http://www.unobtainium.com/
In view of the refinish every year scenario I just may
lose the bright idea.
hal
Even better!
hehehehe
http://www.unobtainium.com/
hehehehe
http://www.unobtainium.com/
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hal Lynch" <hal@...>
To: "Bolger" <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 3:26 PM
Subject: [bolger] bright finish recommendations please
> My Teal the Rayovac II is finally ready for paint. I
> am considering a bright finish for the rudder and leeboard.
>
> Here are my thoughts so far:
> Mahogany stain to give the plywood some color.
> *Something* over the stain which will not self destruct
> in the sun and weather.
>
> My questions:
> Should I lose the bright idea, no pun intended?
> If not what should I use for the *something* above?
> Any other words of wisdom for someone who would starve
> to death if he had to paint for a living?
>
> hal
>
>
>
> Bolger rules!!!
> - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or flogging dead horses
> - stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred' posts
> - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts and <snip> away
> - To order plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA,
01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
> - Unsubscribe:bolger-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> - Open discussion:bolger_coffee_lounge-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject tohttp://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
Here is *something* for you!
http://www.claytonbailey.com/unobtainium.htm
http://www.claytonbailey.com/unobtainium.htm
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hal Lynch" <hal@...>
To: "Bolger" <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 3:26 PM
Subject: [bolger] bright finish recommendations please
> My Teal the Rayovac II is finally ready for paint. I
> am considering a bright finish for the rudder and leeboard.
>
> Here are my thoughts so far:
> Mahogany stain to give the plywood some color.
> *Something* over the stain which will not self destruct
> in the sun and weather.
>
> My questions:
> Should I lose the bright idea, no pun intended?
> If not what should I use for the *something* above?
> Any other words of wisdom for someone who would starve
> to death if he had to paint for a living?
>
> hal
>
>
>
> Bolger rules!!!
> - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or flogging dead horses
> - stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred' posts
> - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts and <snip> away
> - To order plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA,
01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
> - Unsubscribe:bolger-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> - Open discussion:bolger_coffee_lounge-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject tohttp://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
I don't think there is *something*. (would that be unobtainium?) All of the
spar varnishes, polyurethane's, etc I've found, even the ones meant for
outside use, flake off under constant exposure to the elements.
So, either paint, or keep the boat out of the sun when not in use, or resign
yourself to refinishing once a year.
I've done the last two with the CLC.
However, if anyone knows where we can get some unobtainium bases spar
varnish, let me know! I want personal experience though, I don't trust the
manufactures any more...
spar varnishes, polyurethane's, etc I've found, even the ones meant for
outside use, flake off under constant exposure to the elements.
So, either paint, or keep the boat out of the sun when not in use, or resign
yourself to refinishing once a year.
I've done the last two with the CLC.
However, if anyone knows where we can get some unobtainium bases spar
varnish, let me know! I want personal experience though, I don't trust the
manufactures any more...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hal Lynch" <hal@...>
To: "Bolger" <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 3:26 PM
Subject: [bolger] bright finish recommendations please
> My Teal the Rayovac II is finally ready for paint. I
> am considering a bright finish for the rudder and leeboard.
>
> Here are my thoughts so far:
> Mahogany stain to give the plywood some color.
> *Something* over the stain which will not self destruct
> in the sun and weather.
>
> My questions:
> Should I lose the bright idea, no pun intended?
> If not what should I use for the *something* above?
> Any other words of wisdom for someone who would starve
> to death if he had to paint for a living?
>
> hal
>
>
>
> Bolger rules!!!
> - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or flogging dead horses
> - stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred' posts
> - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts and <snip> away
> - To order plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA,
01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
> - Unsubscribe:bolger-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> - Open discussion:bolger_coffee_lounge-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject tohttp://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
My Teal the Rayovac II is finally ready for paint. I
am considering a bright finish for the rudder and leeboard.
Here are my thoughts so far:
Mahogany stain to give the plywood some color.
*Something* over the stain which will not self destruct
in the sun and weather.
My questions:
Should I lose the bright idea, no pun intended?
If not what should I use for the *something* above?
Any other words of wisdom for someone who would starve
to death if he had to paint for a living?
hal
am considering a bright finish for the rudder and leeboard.
Here are my thoughts so far:
Mahogany stain to give the plywood some color.
*Something* over the stain which will not self destruct
in the sun and weather.
My questions:
Should I lose the bright idea, no pun intended?
If not what should I use for the *something* above?
Any other words of wisdom for someone who would starve
to death if he had to paint for a living?
hal